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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9760 Posts
On October 24 2022 05:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Boris Johnson drops out of the race. https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1584273604594008065 I'm surprised people had anything on him that they haven't already used, but clearly they do. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On October 24 2022 06:07 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm surprised people had anything on him that they haven't already used, but clearly they do. I mean the whole inquiry into ‘Partygate’ is yet to be concluded. It’s highly possible there’s some dirt that will come out down the line Not my line, but at long last Boris has figured out when to pull out | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11706 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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KwarK
United States43403 Posts
On October 24 2022 23:02 Artisreal wrote: My bet is until the next general election! Agree. He had the support of the parliamentary party which is what matters. Truss got in based on the general membership but the party never supported her. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
https://www.c-span.org/video/?523779-1/question-time | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1689774/rishi-sunak-no-confidence-letters-tory-mps-cabinet-reshuffle-suella-braverman | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
On November 01 2022 00:55 plasmidghost wrote: Awesome Games Done Quick 2022: UK Prime Minister Edition is shaping up to be one for the record books https://twitter.com/dave43law/status/1587054913913233408 https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1689774/rishi-sunak-no-confidence-letters-tory-mps-cabinet-reshuffle-suella-braverman It's the Express. I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Disgruntled people who got fired are disgruntled. Not exactly newsworthy unless you're a trashy tabloid. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On November 01 2022 20:19 Acrofales wrote: It's the Express. I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Disgruntled people who got fired are disgruntled. Not exactly newsworthy unless you're a trashy tabloid. Man I hate how many UK media outlets that applies too | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
Jan 13 (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is poised to block Scottish laws that make it easier for people to change their gender, The Times reported on Friday. New legal advice could pave the way for the government to stop Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon's gender recognition laws from getting royal assent next week, the newspaper said, though it was unclear what that advice was. Sunak will make a final decision with Scotland Secretary Alister Jack next week on invoking section 35 of the 1998 Scotland Act, which will prohibit Holyrood's presiding officer from submitting the bill for royal assent, the report added. British Prime Minister's office did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. Scotland has always been clear the bill does not impact the Equality Act, a Scottish Government spokesperson said in an emailed statement to Reuters. Any attempt by the UK Government to undermine the democratic will of the Scottish Parliament will be vigorously contested by the Scotland, the spokesperson added. Scotland passed the bill last month, making it the first region of the United Kingdom to approve a self-identification process for changing gender, including removing the need for a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria and lowering the minimum age to 16 from 18. Scotland had said similar laws in other countries led to a decrease in violence against transgender people, though hate crimes in the UK against the group have been rising in recent years. Sunak raised concerns last month about the bill's impact on women and children's safety, though experts have rejected this argument. The British National government had further said that it would examine the bill and could look at blocking it if necessary. Sunak and Sturgeon had met on Thursday for a private working dinner. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-sunak-preparing-block-scottish-gender-reform-bill-times-2023-01-13/ | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 16 2023 06:26 plasmidghost wrote: Hey UK folks, there could be a major constitutional crisis happening soon as Sunak is going to block Scotland's gender reform bill from passing. Not sure what Scotland will be able to do here but one of my biggest dreams is seeing the disintegration of the UK, so if that somehow happens as a result of Sunak causing a constitutional crisis, I will be thrilled beyond words https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-sunak-preparing-block-scottish-gender-reform-bill-times-2023-01-13/ biggest dream, haha why may I ask? Besides can't Scotland just "nope" and go forward anyways. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On January 16 2023 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: biggest dream, haha why may I ask? Besides can't Scotland just "nope" and go forward anyways. Well personally the UK is an absolute hellhole for trans people and overall, with how fucked the Tories and Labour parties are in terms of massive shifts right screwing over so many British people, the less people that suffer, the better. The NHS is collapsing because of the government, protesting is illegal, strikes will become illegal, and the media is pretty much only far-right talking pieces. It's a nightmare country | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
On January 16 2023 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: biggest dream, haha why may I ask? Besides can't Scotland just "nope" and go forward anyways. No, Scotland can't just nope. That's why it's a big deal. That said, they can't even have another independence election without London's approval, which Sunak is unlikely to give. So they're kinda stuck. | ||
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Razyda
896 Posts
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/draft-legislation-to-help-more-people-prove-their-identity-online/consultation-on-draft-legislation-to-support-identity-verification Link to website where they also ask to fill cleverly worded survey. | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On January 16 2023 07:09 plasmidghost wrote: Well personally the UK is an absolute hellhole for trans people and overall, with how fucked the Tories and Labour parties are in terms of massive shifts right screwing over so many British people, the less people that suffer, the better. The NHS is collapsing because of the government, protesting is illegal, strikes will become illegal, and the media is pretty much only far-right talking pieces. It's a nightmare country I find it a little insulting that you would come into the UK politics thread and say "one of my biggest dreams is seeing the disintegration of the UK" as well as calling the UK a "hellhole" and a "nightmare country". There are so many problems with the UK and LGBT rights but I would still rather live here than, for example, Saudi Arabia or Russia. My impression of this mess is the SNP is exploiting the trans community to pick a fight with Westminster. The SNP knows that outside of the independence issue support for the SNP is not great. They are not seen as doing well with NHS Scotland, or with the Scottish economy, (and several scandals over the last couple of years have hurt too). When things are going badly domestically the go-to move for every politician is to stoke up anger at some 'others', and for the SNP that means attacking the Westminster government. Holyrood could have introduced the gender recognition legislation in a much better way. Eg, they could have restricted it to people living in Scotland, but the new system would also be open to anyone born in Scotland even if they no longer lived there. They could have said the new gender would only be recognised in Scotland and included a system to 'upgrade' the Scottish certificate to a UK-wide certificate. (I don't think 'upgrade' is the appropriate word there but I cannot think of what is atm.) It was inevitable that there would be questions about whether the rest of the UK would recognise the new process but Holyrood appears to have gone solo and not worked with the Westminster government on the issue. That's despite knowing that violence against women and girls is a hot issue and women's rights groups would put pressure on Westminster. (Whether or not those are legitimate concerns are irrelevant, the public image would be bad.) And after Westminster said it would block the new Scottish bill, Nicola Sturgeon responded with a bombastic speech about it being an attack on democracy and devolution. To make something clear though, I want to make life easier for trans people and would be happy for something like that bill to be passed by Westminster, and I think the Tory government is also trying to make this into a Scotland v England fight. But that doesn't excuse how the SNP has gone about this. The SNP's argument for an independent Scotland seem no more valid than the Brexiteers arguments about the EU, and the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon are no better than the likes of Nigel Farage or the people currently in Westminster. They are trying to do something decent but in a bad way and I believe for bad reasons. | ||
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