EPTUK Politics Mega-thread - Page 4
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 03 2013 07:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So the UKIP is basically the British version of American Libertarianism? no they are just more conservative than the conservatives. They are nothing like ron or rand paul for example. | ||
KwarK
United States44123 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9875 Posts
On July 03 2013 08:43 KwarK wrote: They're a single issue anti European party who have no realistic chance of election in a FPTP system so they just propose random shit because they know they'll never need to enact it. They have stayed out of the news pretty much completely since Nigel Farage got humiliated in Edinburgh: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2013/may/17/ukip-nigel-farage-protesters-edinburgh-video http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10063872/Nigel-Farage-hangs-up-on-BBC-interview-over-hatred-in-its-questioning.html | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States44123 Posts
Tories pulling out all the stops to return to being the nasty party. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Chancellor George Osborne's backing of proposals to jail reckless bankers has come under fire as a mere 'symbolic gesture' by experts. This came after the Chancellor threw the government's weight behind the proposal from the Parliamentary Banking Commission, saying it was part of the cultural reform of the sector which would help maintain the 'highest standards' Speaking to the Huffington Post UK, Peter Fleming, Professor of Management at Cass Business School, said that Osborne "had to say something at this point in time because of the banking sector's almost irrecoverable legitimacy crisis". "Osborne is behind the curve. He has had to make some brash and big claims about jailing bankers. Whether bankers are going to be jailed is another matter. It's just a symbolic gesture that things are going to change. "He's had his hand forced. He has been dragged into it and is probably in a very uncomfortable position because Osborne is otherwise a great ally of the banking sector, so he's in a difficult position. So far his words are looking hollow." The new criminal offence of “reckless misconduct in the management of a bank” would apply just to senior individuals, with cases pursued only against those involved with “the most serious of failings, such as where a bank failed with substantial cost to the taxpayer, lasting consequences for the financial system, or serious harm to customers". Bank bosses will also have to show that they took all reasonable precautions to stop any regulation breaches. Business Secretary Vince Cable said: "If we're to get our economy back on track, we need to get the banking system back on track first. Source | ||
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LiberumScotiam
Scotland12 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + Clearly a little teasing joke :D | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9875 Posts
massive changes to labour's relationship with unions + Show Spoiler + Plans to change the way union members donate to Labour could "end rather than mend" relations, says the leader of the UK's third largest union, the GMB. Paul Kenny told the BBC that Labour leader Ed Miliband's "bold move" was "as close as you can get" to ending the link between Labour and the unions. He predicted a fall in Labour funding. Mr Miliband wants union members to have to actively opt in to join Labour, rather than being automatically affiliated as part of union membership. Mr Kenny said the move could see a 90% drop in the number of GMB members affiliating to the party. The union says its affiliation fees paid to Labour could drop from around £2m a year to less than £1m as a result of the changes. Mr Kenny, its general secretary, said the union would decide whether to ballot its members on whether they still want to give money to Labour in September - meaning the funding cut could happen as early as next year. Under the current system members are given the chance to vote on a union's political fund every 10 years. This is a pretty massive story. The conservatives are trying to use it to their advantage politically, but i see it more as Miliband 'cleaning house', something that should have been done 40 years ago IMHO. | ||
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KwarK
United States44123 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9875 Posts
This could have more consequences for the UK's relationship with the ECHR than the (now finally resolved) Abu Qatada issue. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On July 11 2013 00:31 Jockmcplop wrote: More conflict with the ECHR, this time over life sentences This could have more consequences for the UK's relationship with the ECHR than the (now finally resolved) Abu Qatada issue. So a review of lifelong incarceration every 10 years is seemingly too much for the British public to bear? When I read the comments on this below online articles of British newspapers my head begins to hurt. In other news misperceptions are abound in the British population when it comes to many political topics: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality-the-top-10-we-get-wrong.aspx To be fair that's probably true in most democracies around the world including Germany. | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
On July 03 2013 09:15 Zaros wrote: I don't agree with George Galloway often at all but I think he spoke well about the farage incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ADouZXsag#t=25m38s I find around 35 min just as pertinent. Gain independence from UK, to give it away to the EU. Why take scraps from your neighbor when you can get your own plate sounds like the reasoning. | ||
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LiberumScotiam
Scotland12 Posts
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LiberumScotiam
Scotland12 Posts
On July 10 2013 23:30 Pandemona wrote: For now yes...but not after they vote to leave + Show Spoiler + Clearly a little teasing joke :D Sooner the better, my friend, sooner the better. Not that I have anything against the English. I spent most of my life in Sussex with my English father. However, I see both England and Scotland heading in two very different directions. I would also be happy with full devolution rather than completely splitting. The point is that in my opinion Westminster is not doing right by the Scottish people and that this needs to change. They have different norms and values to that of Scotland and is unlikely to change. We are two different countries, and should be treated as such both socially and politically. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On July 03 2013 07:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So the UKIP is basically the British version of American Libertarianism? i honestly dont know any UKIP policy that goes beyond "fucking immigrants" so they could be but they arent doing a good job of talking about that if it is the case. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Noisiest PMQs i've ever heard, a good bit of theatre but probably a bit too much this time. | ||
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