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On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next.
Don't be silly. A gimp mask would never fit over a horse's big nose.
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On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next.
Unless you have a BDSM wedding, no one is going to know what you do in your bedroom. However, that is more of a challenge for folks or are gay, as they need to do all the other stuff in life.
Also, horse armor, duh.
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This is a social rights issue, let's keep religion out of it please.
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On June 24 2013 23:43 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:40 graNite wrote:
im so sick of this whole discussion... the lgbt community is so annyoing...
they are human beings like every other, like you and me. why do they have to make these parades and show everyone how they live? Because people are killed and kill themselves for being gay, that is why.
It must be good to be of a privileged societal situation like graNite's...
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On June 25 2013 04:06 Qwyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
I think that it's important to recognize the direction that the world is moving and move with it. You can have contradictory opinions regarding an issue, but if you express yourself be prepared to fight for what you think. We are equal in the sense that EVERYONE has the RIGHT to express an opinion, not in the sense that there are an equal amount of views on a particular subject. TL as a private entity has the right to express itself as an individual. You may agree or disagree with the opinions expressed on the site, and that is your privilege to do so. I think that the majority of the people on this site are young new age liberals and progressives. Don't be surprised at the reaction you get if you same something contradictory to the forward thinking view. Just be prepared to take a lot of flak and suck it up. I see where you're coming from. Consider your opinion equally considered <3.
While I strongly disagree with your views, I must say I'm impressed with your maturity acting as a voice of the minority on this site.
I really do wish more of the people who disagree with homosexuality were like you.
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On June 25 2013 04:08 Alryk wrote:
I really, really hate Christian bashing. What does it serve?
Christians are a very passive and meek religion.
It satisfies everyone's inner bully to push them around and shit on their beliefs.
You don't see many atheists or pro-homophile activists eager to criticize Islam. Because Islam is violent and scary and bullies only pick on weaklings who don't stand up for themselves (i.e. Christians).
User was temp banned for a history of poor quality posting, low content posts and repeated consistent attempts to start arguments, flame wars and derail topics in the General Forum.
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nice to see TL support equality in such an elegant way
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On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next.
Sorry, but you're mixing sexual fetish with sexual orientation.
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On June 25 2013 03:54 bonse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:39 Jinsho wrote:
As long as you people think that there are no gay people around you in real life, you will never accept that they are just as normal as any of you.
Being gay is way high up on the scale of abnormal, on many levels. You can lie yourself about it as much as you want but that doesn't change reality. Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:39 Jinsho wrote:
That is why gay people demonstrate : because some people really think there are no gay people in their neighborhood, or whatever, just some other place. Always some other place.
That's so stupid. There are all kinds of deviants. If my next door neighbor is a zoophile, why do I need know that? I don't try to burst into his dormitory to check out what's he doing there, why does he have to push his deviancy to me and my children? I was a big TL fan, but this is sooo disappointing...
What's your fucking solution then? You do accept that people can't choose their sexual orientation, correct? If they aren't hurting anyone with their actions as homosexual relationships are like any other "normal" relationships between two consenting adults, what's the reason to hate them for who they are? I suspect it's to make insecure little shits feel better about themselves by discriminating a group of people for something they cannot choose.
Oh look, that's exactly the same as racism, sexism or nationalism.
It's because of ignorant people like you that people feel the need to show themselves to the world and let them know that they aren't different from you and me. Ideally there should be no "gay pride" parades. But because there has been a long history of hate and discrimination, there's an attempt to fix that by being a little bit more "in your face" than maybe you would like.
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On June 25 2013 04:04 Aberu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This is a privately owned gaming website, stop trying to dictate how they use their website and what they want to promote!
You get him Aberu hehe.
I don't tell Chick fil a how to run their company and that guy shouldn't tell teamliquid how to run their's either. If you don't like their policy about basic human equality then don't come to teamliquid. I don't go to chick fil a and yell at the people who work there. While you are at it stop using Google, don't buy Microsoft or Apple, don't drink Budweiser, don't go to Target, stay away from Amazon, refrain from wearing Levi's, don't travel with Expedia, and stay away from most tech companies. Because all of these companies are pro-equality, and pro rainbows.
Rainbows are extremely fascinating btw, I love how white like travels through prisms to seperate into colors.
So basically i'm saying you should go live in a cave if you don't want to see these sorts of things, or just watch Fox news....
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On June 25 2013 04:09 bonse wrote:
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It was such an impressively misguided post.
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On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live?
If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights.
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On June 25 2013 04:06 Qwyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
I think that it's important to recognize the direction that the world is moving and move with it. You can have contradictory opinions regarding an issue, but if you express yourself be prepared to fight for what you think. We are equal in the sense that EVERYONE has the RIGHT to express an opinion, not in the sense that there are an equal amount of views on a particular subject. TL as a private entity has the right to express itself as an individual. You may agree or disagree with the opinions expressed on the site, and that is your privilege to do so. I think that the majority of the people on this site are young new age liberals and progressives. Don't be surprised at the reaction you get if you same something contradictory to the forward thinking view. Just be prepared to take a lot of flak and suck it up. I see where you're coming from. Consider your opinion equally considered <3.
I agree with the importance of recognizing the direction the world is moving, and I think that the move is great. And I totally understand TL's right to the change their banner. (I think it looks great).
Btw This response has restored my faith in humanity. One of the only polite disagreement posts I've yet seen.
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On June 25 2013 04:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:06 Qwyn wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
I think that it's important to recognize the direction that the world is moving and move with it. You can have contradictory opinions regarding an issue, but if you express yourself be prepared to fight for what you think. We are equal in the sense that EVERYONE has the RIGHT to express an opinion, not in the sense that there are an equal amount of views on a particular subject. TL as a private entity has the right to express itself as an individual. You may agree or disagree with the opinions expressed on the site, and that is your privilege to do so. I think that the majority of the people on this site are young new age liberals and progressives. Don't be surprised at the reaction you get if you same something contradictory to the forward thinking view. Just be prepared to take a lot of flak and suck it up. I see where you're coming from. Consider your opinion equally considered <3. While I strongly disagree with your views, I must say I'm impressed with your maturity acting as a voice of the minority on this site. I really do wish more of the people who disagree with homosexuality were like you.
Its modern Christianity that attempts to resolve the conflict between the teachings in the bible and modern society. They object on principle that being in a homosexual relationship is against the teachings, but refuse to take any action further than "objecting". This includes voicing the objection. The entire process in internal and has not effect on anyone unless you direct ask the person. To do anything further would require the Christian to do social harm to themselves and the gay person. As that goes against their teachings, they simple object, but keep it to themselves.
Although as a Christian, I do not agree, I cannot fault the practice. It harms no one and it part of the process of resolve religious teaching's conflict with modern society.
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On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next.
I think the biggest difference is BDSM and most other sexual deviance (aside from like necrophilia/beastiality/incest/rape) aren't legally discriminated against. They're looked down upon socially, but that's still a pretty big difference than saying a couple into BDSM is not allowed to marry; or have certain rights.
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I'm not even sure what this thread is about. Seems all the creepers have come out of the woodwork.
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On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights.
The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc.
The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples.
Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples.
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On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights.
I'm a resident of Arizona, US. Gay marriage is not legal here. Despite my reservations about certain aspects of the homosexual debate, I do support the legalization of gay marriage completely. I 100% agree with your statement. The pursuit of happiness (love being one part of such a pursuit) is a right of every citizen, and that right isn't being met.
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On June 25 2013 04:13 Stol wrote:It was such an impressively misguided post.
Citations were desperately needed.
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On June 25 2013 04:11 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:08 Alryk wrote:
I really, really hate Christian bashing. What does it serve? Christians are a very passive and meek religion. It satisfies everyone's inner bully to push them around and shit on their beliefs. You don't see many atheists or pro-homophile activists eager to criticize Islam. Because Islam is violent and scary and bullies only pick on weaklings who don't stand up for themselves (i.e. Christians).
Its because the Christian lobby is the primary force behind denying equality to homosexuals. If you think that the lobby is meek and doesnt stand up for itself, why do you think this topic is even an issue? What other social majority is opposing equality for homosexuals?
It's much easier to play the victim than understand and admit to your faults.
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