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On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples.
If that were the case; infertile couples should not be allowed to be wedded
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On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples.
You're implying that homosexual couple don't want or can't have children, which is far from the truth.
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On June 25 2013 04:11 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:08 Alryk wrote:
I really, really hate Christian bashing. What does it serve? Christians are a very passive and meek religion. It satisfies everyone's inner bully to push them around and shit on their beliefs. You don't see many atheists or pro-homophile activists eager to criticize Islam. Because Islam is violent and scary and bullies only pick on weaklings who don't stand up for themselves (i.e. Christians).
You have a very limited understand of Christianity and Christians. I might even call it ignorant. I would call the entire post both uninformed and incorrect in every way.
And you are welcome find out how meek and passive I am at any time, internet man.
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On June 25 2013 04:19 Adelphia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. I'm a resident of Arizona, US. Gay marriage is not legal here. Despite my reservations about certain aspects of the homosexual debate, I do support the legalization of gay marriage completely. I 100% agree with your statement. The pursuit of happiness (love being one part of such a pursuit) is a right of every citizen, and that right isn't being met.
So this is historically why the gay movement has been about "getting in your face" so to speak, so I hope you can understand. Unlike other civil rights movements, where it's instantly obvious how different someone is, being gay isn't obvious, and thus an anecdotal assessment of population or normalcy isn't possible in most situations without that standard-breaking behavior, parades, activities, etc...
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On June 25 2013 04:20 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples. If that were the case; infertile couples should not be allowed to be wedded
That's a worthy argument in its own right but certainly doesn't contradict what I have said.
The issue here is not human rights. It's taxpayer subsidies.
People say "equal rights" because it's a lot more emotionally appealing than "gimme monies".
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Christians... meek? Oh boy, you are so far off it is amazing you can even function. Go pick up a history book or just look at the world today, Christians are the least meek of all religious people.
Do not mistake bashing Christians with people defending themselves against Christians. While I am not so naïve as to think people do not genuinely bash Christians, I am fairly certain most instances of "Christian bashing" is actually someone legitimately defending themselves against intolerance. One should not be tolerant of intolerance, that is referred to as apathy.
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On June 25 2013 03:04 Qwyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 02:57 [F_]aths wrote:On June 25 2013 02:50 Qwyn wrote:
A. It's an anomaly, since the vast majority of all mammals on earth including humans are heterosexual and the components of sex cater towards reproduction. The vast majority of humans are right-handed. Should a left-hander be disagreed upon his usage of hands? He/she could have been "nurtured" to learn to use the right hand more often. If homosexuality would be disadvantageous to reproduction, why is a percentage of mammals (including humans) still gay? Probably it does have a purpose. On June 25 2013 02:50 Qwyn wrote:
B. People begin to cultivate sexual preference even before sexual hormones are activated during puberty and that the vast majority of our behaviors and tendencies are influenced by culture.
- Thus, as our societies become more accepting of homosexuals and promote homosexuality it is reasonable to postulate that an increase in homosexuality would occur as a result of that (another great opinion). Whats wrong with acceptance and cultivation of gay culture?? 1) Is underpopulation an issue? 2) Can't gay couples adopt kids and still do something for parentless kids? Because I am religious. And that is part of my reasoning for the popularization of Paul's doctrine, with whom originated the New Testament idea that homosexuality is a "sin," if you will. A modern take on an age old doctrine. 1. Overpopulation is an issue - part of the cultural shift of sex to predominantly an act of pleasure, the use of birth control... 2. I have no problem with gay couples adopting children. I have no right to say what people can or cannot do in their personal life.
Messy -> can of worms opened.
And yeah, you're a homophobe.
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On June 25 2013 04:10 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next. Don't be silly. A gimp mask would never fit over a horse's big nose.
Well done guys, literally can't stop laughing when I read this, made my day 
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On June 25 2013 04:21 Shodaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples. You're implying that homosexual couple don't want or can't have children, which is far from the truth.
It's a biological impossibility.
They can adopt, but so could single people.
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On June 25 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:08 Zaqwe wrote:
I don't understand what homophilia has to to with esports. Maybe the banner should link to an explanation?
What about BDSM or other sexual deviancies? The horse mascot in a gimp mask should be next. Unless you have a BDSM wedding, no one is going to know what you do in your bedroom. However, that is more of a challenge for folks or are gay, as they need to do all the other stuff in life. Also, horse armor, duh.
What about Naturists? Naked horse banner plz
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Disclaimer: I only read the first 10-15 pages of this thread
I'm fine with all LGBT people, but I dont certainly like "LOLOLOL WE ARE GAYS AND WE FUCK EACH OTHER LOLOLOL CMON EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SEX UNDER RAINBOW LOLOLOL"
One should not be proud or ashamed by their sexual preferences, that's what I think for this matter
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On June 25 2013 03:58 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:49 Qwyn wrote:
You can insult the Bible and the books of the disciples all you want, that's fine by me. But for millions of Christians, the Bible IS the final authority on homosexuality. I suppose I can respect your opinion on that. But then you've got to respect my opinion that your opinion is, to put it mildly, very silly, and that I want nothing to do with someone having that opinion.
You exist. I exist. As part of a social contract and being rational human beings, we mutually agree to not kill each other over something as small as our opinions on an issue. I can respect you calling my opinion silly, and I'll just ignore you calling me silly.
As for wanting nothing to do with me, I heard TL+ has a nice ignore feature that you can use.
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On June 25 2013 04:23 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:21 Shodaa wrote:On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples. You're implying that homosexual couple don't want or can't have children, which is far from the truth. It's a biological impossibility. They can adopt, but so could single people.
Are you sure? Mary begs to differ 
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On June 25 2013 04:22 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:20 wei2coolman wrote:On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples. If that were the case; infertile couples should not be allowed to be wedded That's a worthy argument in its own right but certainly doesn't contradict what I have said. The issue here is not human rights. It's taxpayer subsidies. People say "equal rights" because it's a lot more emotionally appealing than "gimme monies".
And the ability to adopt as couple(which is different that single adoption), rights of surviorship, visitation rights and all the other stuff that comes with marriage. Its not just about taxes.
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On June 25 2013 04:19 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 04:15 Aberu wrote:On June 25 2013 03:58 Adelphia wrote:
As a new TL-er, but a long time lurker on the site, I'm not sure how to feel about the rainbow logo. On one hand I think it is great that a rather large online community is openly supporting gay marriage. However, on the other hand I think that the banner change and large amount of discussion generated from the engagement has really taken away from the "Equality" aspect of it.
I have no problem with homosexuals. In fact, on my high school wrestling team, I knowingly wrestled with homosexuals in tournaments and even on my team (so don't take this a homosexual hate post). However, I feel that some homosexuals make it seem as if they are bombarded with extreme hate daily in every single part of their lives, when in truth, I see huge leaps and bounds towards general acceptance of homosexuality today as compared to say, a few years ago. In addition to that, many gays are extremely flamboyant and flashy, and this drives many people away from them which may contribute to the hate that they do get.
But this large outcry just seems like ALOT, maybe even too much? Does anyone else see where I am coming from or...?
Btw that rainbow mane on the horse does look awesome. They should keep it just because.
Can homosexuals be married where you live? If your answer is no, then there hasn't been enough done for their basic human rights. The interesting thing is that when people talk about gay marriage, most of the time nobody is actually preventing gays from having a ceremony, saying vows, living together, being monogamous, etc. The issue is taxpayer funded subsidies for couples. Do people really have a right to taxpayer subsidies? These subsidies were intended to encourage child birth, so it doesn't really make sense to subsidize same-sex couples.
So you are suggesting that because they are a gay couple they shouldn't be able to see their loved one on their deathbed in some hospital situations? That they should have a harder time buying a house together, and that they should have separate credit histories, and should get discriminated against based on the tax code due to people's religious sensibilities?
Don't you realize how absurd that is?
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Wow, this thread on Reddit has turned into a blood bath.
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but it's not just tax payer subsidies. My gay friend cannot marry his lover in California. When his partner got into a car accident, because he wasn't a) blood-related family, or b) spouse he wasn't allowed to ride in the Ambulance to the hospital with him. When he got to the hospital, he wasn't allowed to stay overnight with his lover of 7 years either. Luckily he recovered and was fine, but if the decision had come to pull the plug on life support, guess who gets to make that decision, not his lover of 7 years, who if he was able to be married to, by all legal purposes would be next of kin who would make that decision, No. It was his hatemongering father who would've gladly pulled the plug on his 'faggot son'. Yeah. It's all just about gimme monies.
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On June 25 2013 04:22 valium wrote:
Christians are the least meek of all religious people.
You didn't just post this seriously, did you?
Surely there is a joke here I was not able to detect.
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