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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:18 farvacola wrote: In 29 states, it is legal for an employer to fire someone for being gay. Gay partners also have trouble getting family insurance, hospital visitation rights, there are inheritance issues, and I don't believe they're protected from testifying against each other in court. Oh and, at least in Texas, the age of consent is higher for homosexuals than it is for heterosexuals. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:18 farvacola wrote: In 29 states, it is legal for an employer to fire someone for being gay. Well that was an enlightening tidbit. Thanks for the info. | ||
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Wirlo
France18 Posts
Same right for every human ! we can do it ! | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:25 Klondikebar wrote: Gay partners also have trouble getting family insurance, hospital visitation rights, there are inheritance issues, and I don't believe they're protected from testifying against each other in court. Oh and, at least in Texas, the age of consent is higher for homosexuals than it is for heterosexuals. None of which are fundamental rights other than marital privilege. I won't disagree that rights are abridged, but fundamental ones? None of those things is a fundamental right except marital privilege which I don't even think should be a right, but that isn't an argument for not letting homosexuals have it since it is extended to heterosexuals. Also, the age of consent in Texas is not higher for homosexuals. There is no age of consent specifically for homosexuals in Texas. It is 17 for everyone. | ||
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Cutlery
Norway565 Posts
On March 11 2013 01:40 Magic_Mike wrote: This thread actually makes me think not simply about the rights of gays and lesbians but about all "alternative" lifestyles that have their choices limited by outdated or nonsensical laws. For a long time now there has been a sort of movement for the LGBT community as a whole and they are much more accepted now than they were say 20 or even 10 years ago. Specifically what about Poly or polygamous couples. I don't mean kids who were force from a young age to marry and have sex with a man 10 times older than them but people who actively choose to have relationships with more than one person. Should a man or a woman be able to have more than one wife or husband if all parties involved sign on the dotted line? If marriage is now a civil affair and no longer a religious one, what about a poly "triad" with one man and two women. The man is married to the first and has one kid with her but is also in a relationship with the other and has 7 kids with her. He has to gets severely injured and is on life support. Woman one is his legal wife and has the choice of pulling the plug or not. Woman two arguably has more to lose if he could have pulled through but has no legal rights at all. I honestly don't understand this. If 3 people are married together, why would they not live together, and why would they have separate kids? if one woman gave birth to 7 children, and the other to 1; they'd all have 8 kids, no? Not discussing the legality, but what "triad" that wants to get married would lead separate lives? All I'm seeing is an example of 3 people who DON'T want to live together, DON'T want to share children, but still want to get married. Seems unrealistic. Because you suggest all parties sign the dotted line = marriage with 3 people; it's different than when the man (or woman) of a married couple goes out and takes a second spouse, which is clearly unfair to the previous spouse. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:33 DeepElemBlues wrote: None of which are fundamental rights other than marital privilege. I won't disagree that rights are abridged, but fundamental ones? None of those things is a fundamental right except marital privilege which I don't even think should be a right, but that isn't an argument for not letting homosexuals have it since it is extended to heterosexuals. Also, the age of consent in Texas is not higher for homosexuals. There is no age of consent specifically for homosexuals in Texas. It is 17 for everyone. It's 18 for same sex couples. And are you really telling me that seeing your sick spouse in the hospital isn't a fundamental right? Or that deciding who gets your estate when you die isn't a fundamental right? | ||
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Cutlery
Norway565 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:54 Klondikebar wrote: It's 18 for same sex couples. And are you really telling me that seeing your sick spouse in the hospital isn't a fundamental right? Or that deciding who gets your estate when you die isn't a fundamental right? Why is a persons right to see their sick spouse dependent on whether it is deemed fundamental or not? What is the reason for denying it, and why isn't it sufficient to want equal rights, where do the fundamental rights come in? Are you suggesting we're not privileged to be living in somewhat peaceful times, and may as well not give the same privileges to some people, simply because they could be viewed as non-fundamental (again, reasoning?)? Suggesting that a group of people should do with and shut up about only fundamental rights, that have a very iffy definition, is really not productive. Accordingly, one fundamental right would be: Allowed to own property. But not necessarily to pass it on to your children when you die, this is a privilege and not a fundamental right. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
NBA player Jason Collins came out of the closet. This is pretty cool. | ||
courtpanda
866 Posts
On April 30 2013 01:48 Klondikebar wrote: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/#all NBA player Jason Collins came out of the closet. This is pretty cool. im actually wondering more about the managing aspect of this rather than the social, i.e. does this screw him out of a new contract | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 30 2013 01:49 courtpanda wrote: im actually wondering more about the managing aspect of this rather than the social, i.e. does this screw him out of a new contract My understanding is that his career was pretty much done anyway and he was ready to retire. Although Nike has offered a MASSIVE endorsement to the first openly homosexual professional player so he'll still be rollin in it. Although reading the comments section on some of these articles is...chilling. Mainstream sports are almost as disgusting as the fighting game community. | ||
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DeathProfessor
United States1052 Posts
If you were in a scenario where you were naked an hour a day lets say, and you knew there were people who were sexually attracted to you there, it would be weird right? Maybe not. I just am imagining for lots of men it would. That's why they don't let women and men be together in locker rooms, sexual tension would be too intense. Having a gay player might put thoughts in peoples mind where they would normally have nothing there and it effects their play and makes them play worse. Of course now the cats out of the bag, nobody is allowed to "hate" and everyone should be open and free. I think the answer is if enough people come out then it will just be normal and people will deal as they have before knowing. Won't be an issue anymore. The benefit for straight guys is that women and men maybe now shower together. ;-) | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On April 30 2013 02:16 DeathProfessor wrote: Same kinda people really, usually you grew up in inner cities, you would be into sports like basketball and fighting games, at least judging from my life in arcades back in the day. Sports most understandable place for homophobia though, maybe before being angry that some people don't accept it think of it from their side. If you were in a scenario where you were naked an hour a day lets say, and you knew there were people who were sexually attracted to you there, it would be weird right? Maybe not. I just am imagining for lots of men it would. That's why they don't let women and men be together in locker rooms, sexual tension would be too intense. Having a gay player might put thoughts in peoples mind where they would normally have nothing there and it effects their play and makes them play worse. Of course now the cats out of the bag, nobody is allowed to "hate" and everyone should be open and free. I think the answer is if enough people come out then it will just be normal and people will deal as they have before knowing. Won't be an issue anymore. The benefit for straight guys is that women and men maybe now shower together. ;-) This is why I don't give much credit to straight people on this topic. Just because someone is gay does not mean they are attracted to every single straight man. You can share a locker room with a gay dude without having him slobbering all over your junk in the shower. And even if he was attracted to some of them who cares? What matters is that he behaved like a professional. | ||
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Mothra
United States1448 Posts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/10015978/Teen-dies-after-being-beaten-at-camp-that-makes-men-out-of-boys.html | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
 http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/03/04/new-transgender-student-guidelines-raise-questions-at-mass-schools/ Meanwhile in Arizona, an anti-trans 'bathroom bill' is set to pass: http://news.yahoo.com/no-loo-arizona-readies-itself-pass-anti-trans-214837875.html | ||
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electronic voyeur
United States133 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qp2V0tC.jpg) http://www.kansas.com/2013/06/27/2865927/utah-state-senator-proposes-to.html SALT LAKE CITY — An openly gay Utah state senator didn't just give a speech at a party celebrating two Supreme Court victories for gay rights - he took to the stage to propose to his longtime boyfriend. Democratic state Sen. Jim Dabakis popped the question to partner Stephen Justesen Wednesday at a rainbow flag-draped rally at Salt Lake City's Club Sound. The two met 26 years ago. "Stephen, after all these years, will you marry me?" Dabakis said over the whoops of an approving crowd. | ||
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Orangered
289 Posts
On June 30 2013 13:33 electronic voyeur wrote: kinda biggish news, especially for a state like Utah http://www.kansas.com/2013/06/27/2865927/utah-state-senator-proposes-to.html Why what about Utah? If you mean Utah is a conservative country, then this is terribly good news, especially that it seems that crowd are very approving of the proposal. I really wonder who in this modern time are still opposed to gender equality. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
So there is this 2 women couple and they are getting a shitload of comments like: - this is disgusting! - why aren't you with a man!? - can I join you two making out? - this is unnatural! What is a simple, effective but not offensive retort? One that can take a breath away and still makes the offending person think about why they might be offensive and an asshole by saying such things. We diddnt come up with an answer but to say that we strongly disagree with the above mentioned comments, that they are offensive and that the sexuality and what they do with it is of no concern to anyone but them. Maybe anyone has another idea that also shows the kind of thinking that is behind such statements? | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On April 24 2013 04:54 Klondikebar wrote: It's 18 for same sex couples. And are you really telling me that seeing your sick spouse in the hospital isn't a fundamental right? Or that deciding who gets your estate when you die isn't a fundamental right? Additionally, who gives a flying f*ck about whether they are fundamental or not? Point is mixed sex couples enjoy these rights while same sex couples don't. That is arbitrary. Some pigs are not more equal than others. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On June 30 2013 13:33 electronic voyeur wrote: kinda biggish news, especially for a state like Utah http://www.kansas.com/2013/06/27/2865927/utah-state-senator-proposes-to.html this is cool and i want a united states of gay flag yo | ||
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