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Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
August 08 2013 14:36 GMT
#2841
On August 08 2013 23:31 Plansix wrote:

That is some compelling evidence you have there. You might as well say "Because I say so and its true"

Acutally, no. Not because I say its true, because the dictionary says it's true. A dictionary is an actual authority on words' meaning.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 14:37 GMT
#2842
On August 08 2013 23:36 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:31 Plansix wrote:

That is some compelling evidence you have there. You might as well say "Because I say so and its true"

Acutally, no. Not because I say its true, because the dictionary says it's true. A dictionary is an actual authority on words' meaning.

The dictionary is a book that tells you how to use a word in a sentance and is not a defining factor of what is true or false in the world. It is shitty evidence at best.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 14:38 GMT
#2843
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 08 2013 14:38 GMT
#2844
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

I know but i think he was too far gone. i didn't mean i got a point i just ment im glad he left.

On August 08 2013 23:35 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:31 ComaDose wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:29 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:28 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:26 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:23 ComaDose wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:22 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:20 ComaDose wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:15 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:12 ComaDose wrote:
[quote]
well since you refuse to educate yourself we will start from the beginning.
there is no such thing as a biological "man" the word you are searching for is male and saying someone is biologically a man when they identify as a woman is needlessly offensive in a LGBT rights thread.

That is pure semantics. You are trying to redefine the words "man", "woman" and "gender" to suit your argument.

no i'm quoting the world health organization.
you must learn the difference between gender and sex if you wish to have any meaningful contribution to this convorsation

Fine, you are quoting someone else arguing semantics.

you asked what you said that was incorrect and i informed you

A human male is called a man.

noun (plural men /mɛn/)
1an adult human male:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/man

Really, the oxford english dictionary? It is now a medical expert? I thought it just told me how you use a word in a sentence and didn't really care about social context.


A man is a man is a man, regardless of social context.

actually a man is different in every society.
manly men like cars has nothing to do with biology

To be fair, that's a gender role, not a biological thing. Some people are all for breaking down gender roles, but not for identifying as the opposite sex in a biological context.

everything that gender is, is a gender roll yeah.
how can you not be "for" identifying as the opposite sex in a biological context. that sounds like denying trans-persons even exist
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:41:55
August 08 2013 14:40 GMT
#2845
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?
I'm not against trans people at all. I am against
1) Deception
2) Changing words' meaning

Is that really so bad?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:44:13
August 08 2013 14:42 GMT
#2846
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?
I'm not against trans people at all. I am against
1) Deception
2) Changing words' meaning

Is that really so bad?


Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.

And could you have a more basic argument then "I will use whatever word I want to discribe you, even if you don't like it". Look up the word Negro, it means black person. Guess what? Even though it is correct, you shouldn't use it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 08 2013 14:42 GMT
#2847
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


Actually I don't think Killscreen is particularly jerky, and painting him as such doesn't help anyone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:46:59
August 08 2013 14:42 GMT
#2848
On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.

It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words.
And "Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 08 2013 14:43 GMT
#2849
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

alright lets move on to the next thing you said that was wrong
the girl knew I would be pissed ( or she would tell me )

there are many reasons someone wouldn't disclose other than knowing you would be pissed
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:45:44
August 08 2013 14:45 GMT
#2850
On August 08 2013 23:43 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

alright lets move on to the next thing you said that was wrong
Show nested quote +
the girl knew I would be pissed ( or she would tell me )

there are many reasons someone wouldn't disclose other than knowing you would be pissed

Sure..
It's still deceptive and wrong though, regardless of her reason not to disclose it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 14:46 GMT
#2851
On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.

It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words.

Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:48:03
August 08 2013 14:47 GMT
#2852
On August 08 2013 23:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.

It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words.

Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called.

"Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it.
You dont get to change the English language. Sorry.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:48:36
August 08 2013 14:48 GMT
#2853
On August 08 2013 23:47 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:46 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote:
that was easyer than usual


But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise.

Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.


So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D
Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary?

Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.

It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words.

Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called.

"Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it.

neither is negro thats his point
edit: stop ninja editing
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
August 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#2854
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 08 2013 14:51 GMT
#2855
On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote:
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?

its fucking rude dude
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
August 08 2013 14:51 GMT
#2856
On August 08 2013 23:51 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote:
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?

its fucking rude dude

How can it be rude if its not derogatory?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 08 2013 14:52 GMT
#2857
On August 08 2013 23:51 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:51 ComaDose wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote:
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?

its fucking rude dude

How can it be rude if its not derogatory?

context exists
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#2858
On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote:
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?

Because they will fucking punch you? Are you kidding? You don't break that out ever, its a word that has been twisted over time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
August 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#2859
Did you redefine "context" also, or am I just not getting you?
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
August 08 2013 14:54 GMT
#2860
On August 08 2013 23:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote:
If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?

Because they will fucking punch you? Are you kidding? You don't break that out ever, its a word that has been twisted over time.

So its a derogatory term then.
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