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On August 08 2013 23:31 Plansix wrote:
That is some compelling evidence you have there. You might as well say "Because I say so and its true"
Acutally, no. Not because I say its true, because the dictionary says it's true. A dictionary is an actual authority on words' meaning.
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On August 08 2013 23:36 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:31 Plansix wrote:
That is some compelling evidence you have there. You might as well say "Because I say so and its true"
Acutally, no. Not because I say its true, because the dictionary says it's true. A dictionary is an actual authority on words' meaning. The dictionary is a book that tells you how to use a word in a sentance and is not a defining factor of what is true or false in the world. It is shitty evidence at best.
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On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.
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On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. I know but i think he was too far gone. i didn't mean i got a point i just ment im glad he left.
On August 08 2013 23:35 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:31 ComaDose wrote:On August 08 2013 23:29 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:28 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:26 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:23 ComaDose wrote:On August 08 2013 23:22 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:20 ComaDose wrote:On August 08 2013 23:15 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:12 ComaDose wrote: [quote] well since you refuse to educate yourself we will start from the beginning. there is no such thing as a biological "man" the word you are searching for is male and saying someone is biologically a man when they identify as a woman is needlessly offensive in a LGBT rights thread. That is pure semantics. You are trying to redefine the words "man", "woman" and "gender" to suit your argument. no i'm quoting the world health organization. you must learn the difference between gender and sex if you wish to have any meaningful contribution to this convorsation Fine, you are quoting someone else arguing semantics. you asked what you said that was incorrect and i informed you A human male is called a man. noun (plural men /mɛn/) 1an adult human male:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/man Really, the oxford english dictionary? It is now a medical expert? I thought it just told me how you use a word in a sentence and didn't really care about social context. A man is a man is a man, regardless of social context. actually a man is different in every society. manly men like cars has nothing to do with biology To be fair, that's a gender role, not a biological thing. Some people are all for breaking down gender roles, but not for identifying as the opposite sex in a biological context. everything that gender is, is a gender roll yeah. how can you not be "for" identifying as the opposite sex in a biological context. that sounds like denying trans-persons even exist
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On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.
So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? I'm not against trans people at all. I am against 1) Deception 2) Changing words' meaning
Is that really so bad?
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On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? I'm not against trans people at all. I am against 1) Deception 2) Changing words' meaning Is that really so bad?
Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof.
And could you have a more basic argument then "I will use whatever word I want to discribe you, even if you don't like it". Look up the word Negro, it means black person. Guess what? Even though it is correct, you shouldn't use it.
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On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward.
Actually I don't think Killscreen is particularly jerky, and painting him as such doesn't help anyone.
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On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof. It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words. And "Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it.
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On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? alright lets move on to the next thing you said that was wrong
the girl knew I would be pissed ( or she would tell me ) there are many reasons someone wouldn't disclose other than knowing you would be pissed
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On August 08 2013 23:43 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? alright lets move on to the next thing you said that was wrong there are many reasons someone wouldn't disclose other than knowing you would be pissed Sure.. It's still deceptive and wrong though, regardless of her reason not to disclose it.
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On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof. It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words. Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called.
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On August 08 2013 23:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof. It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words. Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called. "Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it. You dont get to change the English language. Sorry.
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On August 08 2013 23:47 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:46 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:42 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:42 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:40 Killscreen wrote:On August 08 2013 23:38 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 23:34 ComaDose wrote: that was easyer than usual But you didn't achieve anything, this isn't a points scoring exercise. Getting people to go away and stop saying jerky things is its own reward. So guess what, you convinced me to stay! :D Everything I said is factually correct. You're really arguing with the oxford dictionary? Is it a medical journal? I mean, you might as well cite "elements of style" or "rules for grammer" as your proof. It has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, it has to do with semantics, the meaning of words. Look up the world Negro and its meaning. Even though you would be correct, you shouldn't call a black person a negro. Your argument is the most basic of argument. We can agree with you and still call you a jerk for refusing to accept what transgender people want to be called. "Man" is not a derogatory term, regardless of if you feel offended by it. neither is negro thats his point edit: stop ninja editing
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If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then?
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote: If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then? its fucking rude dude
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On August 08 2013 23:51 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote: If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then? its fucking rude dude How can it be rude if its not derogatory?
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On August 08 2013 23:51 Killscreen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:51 ComaDose wrote:On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote: If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then? its fucking rude dude How can it be rude if its not derogatory? context exists
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote: If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then? Because they will fucking punch you? Are you kidding? You don't break that out ever, its a word that has been twisted over time.
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Did you redefine "context" also, or am I just not getting you?
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On August 08 2013 23:53 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:50 Killscreen wrote: If its not derogatory, why shouldnt I call a black person negro then? Because they will fucking punch you? Are you kidding? You don't break that out ever, its a word that has been twisted over time. So its a derogatory term then.
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