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On February 23 2017 02:01 Mohdoo wrote:
If I may predict:
Perez gets it and we gain in 2018 but not nearly what we should have after Trump's first 2 years and not enough to make a huge difference.
It is hard to tell, but my bet is on him winning. But it all going to come down to what candidates they get for each set they want to fight over. And if they can craft an appealing party message. My money is on campaign finance reform and infrastructure. Everyone hates election ads, banks and loves the idea of rebuilding bridges.
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The president weighs in on the DNC chair issue.
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On February 23 2017 02:08 LegalLord wrote:
Hard to beat DWS at being bad. But the DNC is determined to try.
I can only hope. This Trumps stuff is getting passe.
Such a troll.
Seriously, the only question at this point is if the hate is fully trolling or somewhat actually believes in the foolish thought.
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The power of partisanship
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Oh jesus.... Can he ever pass up an opportunity to toot his own horn?
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On February 23 2017 02:35 Trainrunnef wrote:Oh jesus.... Can he ever pass up an opportunity to toot his own horn?
Maybe he will at some point, but then he'll ruin it by bragging afterward about how maturely he resisted the urge to toot his own horn.
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On February 23 2017 02:35 Trainrunnef wrote:Oh jesus.... Can he ever pass up an opportunity to toot his own horn?
no, it's part of his character.
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Republicans like winners, Democrats hate them. That's what happened here.
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On February 23 2017 03:03 LegalLord wrote:Republicans like winners, Democrats hate them. That's what happened here.
Democrats hate winners?
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On February 23 2017 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 03:03 LegalLord wrote:Republicans like winners, Democrats hate them. That's what happened here. Democrats hate winners?
My god, why would you take that bait? You know its bait right?
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On February 23 2017 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 03:03 LegalLord wrote:Republicans like winners, Democrats hate them. That's what happened here. Democrats hate winners?
What other explanation would you have for choosing to nominate Hillary Clinton, a non-winner? For being brutalized at the local/state level? It's almost like they don't want to win.
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On February 23 2017 03:29 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 03:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 23 2017 03:03 LegalLord wrote:Republicans like winners, Democrats hate them. That's what happened here. Democrats hate winners? What other explanation would you have for choosing to nominate Hillary Clinton, a non-winner? For being brutalized at the local/state level? It's almost like they don't want to win.
Hook, line, and sinker
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Guys, please take it easy on the trolling.
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As the war between government forces and Russian-backed rebels continues in eastern Ukraine, a peace plan purportedly crafted by two associates of President Trump and a member of Ukraine’s parliament is causing an increasing backlash.
Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Yuriy Lutsenko said Tuesday that an investigation would be opened against lawmaker Andrei Artemenko on possible treason charges.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that Artemenko was suspected of conspiring with Russian officials to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” including pushing his proposal for a deal that would “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula.
Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 by force, soon after Ukraine’s Russia-friendly president fled the country in the wake of massive street protests. The U.S. and its allies in Europe have refused to recognize the Russian annexation, and have levied harsh sanctions against Russia in response.
President Vladimir Putin’s seizure of part of a neighboring country also prompted NATO to deploy military hardware and thousands more troops -- including about 4,000 U.S. service members -- to countries on the edge of Moscow’s sphere of political influence in eastern Europe.
According to the Times, Artemenko flew into New York in January and met privately with Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen and a Russian-American man named Felix Sater. Sater, said the Times, was a business partner of Mr. Trump’s who was tasked as recently as 2015 with scouting business opportunities for Mr. Trump in Russia.
The Times reported that Artemenko crafted his plan, which calls for Ukrainians to vote on whether to lease Crimea to Russia for either 50 or 100 years, with Cohen and Slater, but the Trump associates’ role in the proposal is unconfirmed; other reports suggest the Ukrainian was essentially pitching the plan to the men in New York.
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Guess negotiations with Trump's team are treason.
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That would be dangerously close to treason in the US too. Any time a politician is trying to cut deals with other world governments and not being super open about it, it is close to treason.
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On February 23 2017 00:54 eviltomahawk wrote:
At least that deportation policy seems to only apply to people who cross over the border from Mexico. Apparently there are quite a few undocumented Asian immigrants that wouldn't make sense for the policy to apply to. Their numbers don't seem to be great enough in comparison to Central/South American undocumented immigrants to warrant as much public scrutiny though.
Whereas sending Cubans, Brazilians and Hondurans to Mexico would make sense?
News flash: just because they come from some country to the south of you doesn't make them Mexican, or related to Mexicans, or even having entered the country through Mexico (in fact, insofar as I know the statistics, most fly in and overstay their tourist visa: no need to touch ground in Mexico for that).
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On February 23 2017 04:16 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +As the war between government forces and Russian-backed rebels continues in eastern Ukraine, a peace plan purportedly crafted by two associates of President Trump and a member of Ukraine’s parliament is causing an increasing backlash.
Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Yuriy Lutsenko said Tuesday that an investigation would be opened against lawmaker Andrei Artemenko on possible treason charges.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that Artemenko was suspected of conspiring with Russian officials to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” including pushing his proposal for a deal that would “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula.
Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 by force, soon after Ukraine’s Russia-friendly president fled the country in the wake of massive street protests. The U.S. and its allies in Europe have refused to recognize the Russian annexation, and have levied harsh sanctions against Russia in response.
President Vladimir Putin’s seizure of part of a neighboring country also prompted NATO to deploy military hardware and thousands more troops -- including about 4,000 U.S. service members -- to countries on the edge of Moscow’s sphere of political influence in eastern Europe.
According to the Times, Artemenko flew into New York in January and met privately with Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen and a Russian-American man named Felix Sater. Sater, said the Times, was a business partner of Mr. Trump’s who was tasked as recently as 2015 with scouting business opportunities for Mr. Trump in Russia.
The Times reported that Artemenko crafted his plan, which calls for Ukrainians to vote on whether to lease Crimea to Russia for either 50 or 100 years, with Cohen and Slater, but the Trump associates’ role in the proposal is unconfirmed; other reports suggest the Ukrainian was essentially pitching the plan to the men in New York. SourceGuess negotiations with Trump's team are treason.
privately conducting negotiations with a foreign government for the secession of land without approval from your government is treason yes.
And you know this, but this is bait/troll post about Trump/Russia number 28523 from you since the election.
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In case anyone else was curious...
While she’s still in the room (off-camera) at the White House press briefings, it appears that Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway has been benched from what she’s best known for, which is defending Donald Trump on TV. CNN Money reported on Wednesday that Conway will not be making TV appearances for a while after she strayed from the administration’s official position in interviews about the resignation of National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. Specifically, she had said Flynn had Trump’s “full confidence” a few hours before his resignation, and then, the following day, said Flynn had offered up the resignation. That was contrary to White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer saying that Trump asked him to resign.
One White House source told CNN that she went “off-message,” with another adding that “Clearly they’re having much more of a drama-free week,” so “Having Kellyanne off television is helping them.” This came on the heels of her getting in hot water over encouraging Americans to buy Ivanka Trump’s clothing line in a Fox News Channel appearance.
Also on Mediaite April Ryan Claims Donald Trump Said White People Made Americ…
Update: NBC’s Hallie Jackson got a comment from Conway, who says this isn’t true, with a TV appearance potentially coming as soon as tonight. Conway then reached out to CNN’s Dylan Byers, who reported the initial story, to say that she will be on Fox News tonight. He stands by the story since “she hasn’t been on TV for over a week,” and pointed out that it’s now become routine for the White House to not comment until a story is published so they can “do something to imply it’s not true.”
This is a developing story.
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Every non fox station should just ban her. Almost nothing she says is true. It's a complete waste of time and serves to spread more alternate facts. I know a few already have but they all need to.
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On February 23 2017 04:29 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 04:16 LegalLord wrote:As the war between government forces and Russian-backed rebels continues in eastern Ukraine, a peace plan purportedly crafted by two associates of President Trump and a member of Ukraine’s parliament is causing an increasing backlash.
Ukrainian Prosecutor-General Yuriy Lutsenko said Tuesday that an investigation would be opened against lawmaker Andrei Artemenko on possible treason charges.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that Artemenko was suspected of conspiring with Russian officials to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” including pushing his proposal for a deal that would “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula.
Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 by force, soon after Ukraine’s Russia-friendly president fled the country in the wake of massive street protests. The U.S. and its allies in Europe have refused to recognize the Russian annexation, and have levied harsh sanctions against Russia in response.
President Vladimir Putin’s seizure of part of a neighboring country also prompted NATO to deploy military hardware and thousands more troops -- including about 4,000 U.S. service members -- to countries on the edge of Moscow’s sphere of political influence in eastern Europe.
According to the Times, Artemenko flew into New York in January and met privately with Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen and a Russian-American man named Felix Sater. Sater, said the Times, was a business partner of Mr. Trump’s who was tasked as recently as 2015 with scouting business opportunities for Mr. Trump in Russia.
The Times reported that Artemenko crafted his plan, which calls for Ukrainians to vote on whether to lease Crimea to Russia for either 50 or 100 years, with Cohen and Slater, but the Trump associates’ role in the proposal is unconfirmed; other reports suggest the Ukrainian was essentially pitching the plan to the men in New York. SourceGuess negotiations with Trump's team are treason. privately conducting negotiations with a foreign government for the secession of land without approval from your government is treason yes. And you know this, but this is bait/troll post about Trump/Russia number 28523 from you since the election.
Not to mention claiming to have kompromat on the Ukrainian president which is part of his deal. That actually is treason.
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