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On February 22 2017 23:12 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2017 23:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I thought we were supposed to trust the Russians about the dossier, Donald. Now they're telling us lies and fabricating things? What am I supposed to believe?
On a happy note, Flynn's purging seems to have awarded us a sane national security adviser who isn't borderline delusional with a history of odd international lobbying and being fired for being a screwup. That man seems hand picked to stand up to Bannon and his crew. I wonder who pushed to have him placed in the job.
Interesting. So McMaster is an outspoken history PHD who doesn't believe in isolationism and wants to strengthen alliances and believes understanding local histories and politics for the diverse groups in irak/afghanistan and working with them politically is the only way to guarantee long term safety and reduce extremism.
That's like Bannons worst nightmare. How can he start his ideological church militant war now?
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At least that deportation policy seems to only apply to people who cross over the border from Mexico. Apparently there are quite a few undocumented Asian immigrants that wouldn't make sense for the policy to apply to. Their numbers don't seem to be great enough in comparison to Central/South American undocumented immigrants to warrant as much public scrutiny though.
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On February 23 2017 00:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2017 23:12 Plansix wrote:On February 22 2017 23:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I thought we were supposed to trust the Russians about the dossier, Donald. Now they're telling us lies and fabricating things? What am I supposed to believe?
On a happy note, Flynn's purging seems to have awarded us a sane national security adviser who isn't borderline delusional with a history of odd international lobbying and being fired for being a screwup. That man seems hand picked to stand up to Bannon and his crew. I wonder who pushed to have him placed in the job. Interesting. So he's an outspoken history PHD who doesn't believe in isolationism and wants to strengthen alliances and believes understanding local histories and politics for the diverse groups in irak/afghanistan and working with them politically is the only way to guarantee long term safety and reduce extremism. That's like Bannons worst nightmare.
I respect anyone in the military with that view, especially today with the Internets false worldly-ness we are all prone to. I only hope he can make some changes or at least bring any problems the senate armed services committee.
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On February 23 2017 00:48 Plansix wrote:
We live in the strangest of times. But I guess even DeVos doesn’t like the idea of removing protections from children.
disabled kids? eh whatever
transgender? we gotta protect them!
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On February 23 2017 00:48 Plansix wrote:
We live in the strangest of times. But I guess even DeVos doesn’t like the idea of removing protections from children.
Probably no money in it for her.
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On February 23 2017 00:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2017 23:12 Plansix wrote:On February 22 2017 23:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I thought we were supposed to trust the Russians about the dossier, Donald. Now they're telling us lies and fabricating things? What am I supposed to believe?
On a happy note, Flynn's purging seems to have awarded us a sane national security adviser who isn't borderline delusional with a history of odd international lobbying and being fired for being a screwup. That man seems hand picked to stand up to Bannon and his crew. I wonder who pushed to have him placed in the job. Interesting. So McMaster is an outspoken history PHD who doesn't believe in isolationism and wants to strengthen alliances and believes understanding local histories and politics for the diverse groups in irak/afghanistan and working with them politically is the only way to guarantee long term safety and reduce extremism. That's like Bannons worst nightmare. How can he start his ideological church militant war now?
Thank god for Mattis and McMaster. Now the question is whether they'll get priority over the Breitbart reporters.
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On February 23 2017 00:45 ChristianS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 00:37 LegalLord wrote:
Betsy DeVos, our new liberal hero! Yay! Are you sarcastic ~90% of the time? Or are we in some kind of post-sarcasm world where nobody either does or doesn't mean the things they say anymore?
Not sure sarcasm is the right word (I'd use satire) but I'm not being serious with that specific comment, no.
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On February 23 2017 01:04 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2017 00:48 Plansix wrote:
We live in the strangest of times. But I guess even DeVos doesn’t like the idea of removing protections from children. Probably no money in it for her.
Sessions is proving to be everything I expected and I bet she wants nothing to do with his policies of aggressive indifference. Don’t actively promote bigotry, just remove every legal protection possible and let bigotry do its thing.
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DeVos' support for the transgender Dear Colleague letter can be explained through a bit of Michigan political background. It's worth remembering that the state of Michigan put the entire weight of its Attorney General behind the fight against gay marriage, and they scored a nice victory in DeBoer v. Snyder when the 6th Circuit reversed the district court judge and upheld a Michigan constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. That victory turned sour as fuck when DeBoer got consolidated into Obergefell, was accordingly reversed by the Supreme Court, and then handed back down alongside a requirement that the state of Michigan foot the plaintiff's bill, which ended up being 1.9 million dollars.
Since then, Michigan Republicans have played hot potato with sexual politics and have mostly run away from anything pointed towards the LGBT community, and I have little doubt that DeVos is acting on that impulse here. Knowing full well the political cost of opposing or even seeming indifferent to LGBT issues, DeVos would almost certainly rather spend her political capital on her own pet project of using public funds for private purposes.
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And I am sure any attempt to remove those protections will put her back in front of the national spotlight, which she does not want. From what I have been reading about her interactions with teachers unions and schools, she is facing opposition from all angles. This would just be another thing to hit her with.
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The backlash over this transgender thing is going to be epic. North Carolina got beat up for similar things and lost a lot of business. People already hate this administration at record levels. Talk about throwing fuel on the fire.
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And economics is how you deal with states like NC. When the Jim Crow laws were repealed and segregation ended, Mississippi was the last bastion of hard line racism in the US. Most of cross burning videos and photos we see in history books came from that time, when they aggressively pushed back against equal treatment of blacks. And that went on for a while until the state had to crack down. Not because of bad PR or federal pressure, but because business after business fled the state.
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To loosely paraphrase: "I had dinner with this guy, and by golly he's my pick. Smart, capable guy, is he." That's veering into Trumpian territory, Dean.
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On February 23 2017 01:52 TheTenthDoc wrote:
To loosely paraphrase: "I had dinner with this guy, and by golly he's my pick. Smart, capable guy, is he." That's veering into Trumpian territory, Dean.
Yeah, using a dinner experience as supporting evidence certainly makes me scratch my chin. I feel like this is him trying to split the vote enough to screw over Ellison
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Dunno if anyone would take Buttkeg seriously just because Howard Dean said so.
Would be funny if there were a plot against Ellison though. A fitting way to top off a very electable election season.
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Mr. Buttkeg does not seem electable.
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If I may predict:
Perez gets it and we gain in 2018 but not nearly what we should have after Trump's first 2 years and not enough to make a huge difference.
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Hard to beat DWS at being bad. But the DNC is determined to try.
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