US Politics Mega-thread - Page 6943

On February 22 2017 11:07 Nevuk wrote:
Doesn't S&S hold publishing rights to the book? He'd have to buy it from them.

On February 22 2017 11:09 LegalLord wrote:

Status quo is finished. Trump being elected means there is no status quo no more. Now the name of the game is "defeat Trump no matter the cost."

On February 22 2017 14:04 Doodsmack wrote:
If the dude's bullet exited his gun on the American side of the border, I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be only looking at what happened after the bullet crossed the border. If I'm reading this right and I was the victim's lawyer, I would be screaming that loud and clear.

On February 22 2017 15:58 LegalLord wrote:

Sucks, but, what can you do? At least he'll make the US look like a shitshow to every foreign country that's watching and paying attention.

On February 22 2017 16:27 DannyJ wrote:
I live in NYC and I'm really beginning to wonder who's paying for this endless protection Melania is getting. Was near Trump tower today and it was like a military checkpoint. Why is white house level security clogging up part of the busiest street in America!? Get out of here Melania! I know The White House is a downgrade but come on...

Even back in the early summer Trump Tower already had a platoon of NYPD just standing around the entrance I assume just eating tax payer money.

On February 22 2017 16:27 DannyJ wrote:
I live in NYC and I'm really beginning to wonder who's paying for this endless protection Melania is getting. Was near Trump tower today and it was like a military checkpoint. Why is white house level security clogging up part of the busiest street in America!? Get out of here Melania! I know The White House is a downgrade but come on...

Even back in the early summer Trump Tower already had a platoon of NYPD just standing around the entrance I assume just eating tax payer money.

At current estimates, even a four-year Trump administration could be heading for a billion dollars in taxpayer-borne costs – an eight-fold increase of the $97m Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, estimates it cost to protect Barack Obama over the two terms of his administration.

On February 22 2017 15:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Jesus Christ, for how long are you gonna parrot the same narrative? It's so boring.

Trump is a New York billionaire who will favour his class at the expense of everyone else. That's pretty much a statu quo. The fact he is fucking clueless about foreign policy and will fuck up decades of diplomacy and alliance by blundering away key partnerships is the only thing that makes him "break the statu quo".

Obama tried to get you guys a healthcare, impose progressive taxation and reverse a system made for billionaires and corporations, with mixed success. That's over, back to square one.

On February 22 2017 18:50 Wegandi wrote:


The US all ready has one of the most progressive taxation systems in the OECD. If you don't believe me you can look it up yourself with a simple google search. ...hey, alternative facts though...

On February 22 2017 13:06 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So could a private citizen just set up on the border and start sniping into Mexico with no repercussions from U.S. law? Or the opposite, with a Mexican gunman just plinking away at U.S. agents with no legal repercussions? That seems absolutely absurd to me.

Or is this a case where they're seeking punishment in addition to what the U.S. is already doing to punish the guy?

On February 22 2017 09:07 PhoenixVoid wrote:

Milo's got a following who will chase him anywhere, this is anything but the end for him. He doesn't need Breitbart to spread his message, he can go indie and still find some audience. It's probably a coup to his finances and reputation, but knowing him, he'll come back in a few weeks or so, and plenty will still listen to him and give him attention.

You think his appearance on “Real Time” helped lead to his downfall?

That’s what I was just saying. And by the way, I wasn’t trying to get him removed from society. I’m somebody who, many times, people have tried to make go away. They were successful that one time, for six months in 23 years, because that’s how long it was between the two shows [“Real Time” and “Politically Incorrect,” Mr. Maher’s previous talk show, which aired on Comedy Central and ABC]. It just rubs me the wrong way when somebody says, “I don’t like what this person is saying — he should go away.”

On February 22 2017 10:16 TheYango wrote:

If I or anyone else in this thread did the things Milo did, nobody would care because we're internet nobodies.

If you have fans and followers, it is natural that things you say will be scrutinized and judged to a different standard than if you are an anonymous nobody. That's the price of wanting people to give a shit about what you think.

This was the same even when the internet wasn't around and isn't a product of modern PC culture. What a random nobody says in a public space and what an acknowledged person of some notoriety says are judged very differently by the public.

On February 22 2017 11:56 Doodsmack wrote:


Yeah calling her a black dude is just spelling and grammar. Not to mention unleashing his troll army on her. Which we all know he knowingly did.

Donald Trump’s claims his team had no contact with Russian authorities during the presidential election campaign have been cast into doubt after Kremlin officials admitted they had been in touch with members of his staff.

The US President has repeatedly denied his team were in contact with representatives of the Russian state during a campaign in which Moscow is accused of using cyber attacks to try to influence the election outcome.

“I have nothing to do with Russia”, Mr Trump said during a White House press conference last week. “To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

“How many times do I have to answer this question? Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia.”

That claim, which has been repeated several times by different members of Mr Trump’s team, appears to contradict statements made by senior Russian officials.

Two days after Mr Trump’s election victory, the Russian deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, said his government had been in touch with Mr Trump’s advisers during the campaign.

“I cannot say that all, but a number of them maintained contacts with Russian representatives”, Mr Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency. Mr Trump’s team immediately denied the claims.

Then, earlier this month, the Russian ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak, said he had been in frequent contact during the election campaign with Michael Flynn, a senior adviser to Mr Trump who was appointed as the President’s national security adviser before being forced to resign last week over his links to Russia.

Ms Kislyak told media he had exchanged text messages with Mr Flynn during the campaign and had spoken to him on the phone and in person, according to the Washington Post.

“It’s something all diplomats do”, he said.

In response, Sarah Sanders, a White House spokeswoman, said: “This is a non-story because to the best of our knowledge, no contacts took place, so it’s hard to make a comment on something that never happened.”

The New York Times reported earlier this month that transcripts from conversations intercepted by US agencies revealed contact between Russian officials and a number of unnamed members of Mr Trump’s top team.

It is not unusual for foreign governments to make contact with US presidential candidates in the hope of building relationships and gaining influence with the next occupier of the Oval Office.

What is unusual in Mr Trump’s case is that, at the time conversations are said to have taken place, Russia was being investigated by US security services over suspicions it was involved in hacking Democratic National Committee computers in an attempt to influence the election outcome.

Officials later concluded with “high confidence” that Russia had indeed been behind the hacks.

Mr Trump’s repeated denials of contact between his team and Russia add an extra element of intrigue to a mystery that continues to deepen.

On February 22 2017 22:16 Danglars wrote:

How will she ever recover? Come on now, you can't seriously believe when a troll becomes famous he must give up being a famous troll because "scrutinized" "judged to a different standard" "that's the price." Yeah, that's the price of people that like giving one set of rules for themselves, and another set of rules for others.


Mmhmm unleashing troll army. Guilt by association. Also, misgendering. Yes, you haven't moved one millimeter beyond absurd reactions to hearing mean things on the internet (Milo not omg-these-bad-people-are-basically-Milo). If you want to delineate what is beyond the pale and actually worth paying attention to ... and newsflash, some very mean things were said about racist, sexist, xenophobic Trump supporters in the wake of the election ... you'll have to do much, much better.

But go show me where he's DMing the posited troll army to doxx and deaththreat, and tell me what your beliefs are about tarring the craziest political supporters as the face of the movement.