Bullied teenager, Amanda Todd story (suicide) - Page 3

On October 13 2012 04:34 FabledIntegral wrote:


Such a stupid and ignorant thing to say. No, despite what many idiots may say, it's not necessarily selfish to end your own life when you're experiencing unbearable pain and loneliness 24/7. I hate this mentality and it consists of merely idiotic victim blaming.

Really? You're calling her selfish? Did you read up on her story?

Anyone who can call someone this depressed as someone who is selfish because they are a friggin' middle schooler is unable to cope with immense pain and [cyber]bullying regardless of where they move, not to mention a cyberstalker in possession of child pornography, is an idiot.

No, she was not selfish.

I'm utterly amazed at all the people in this thread basically justifying the acts or even stating that "well you don't have to use social media" (because you know it isn't fucking INGRAINED in society now. It's hardly different than posting the damn picture of her on a poster at school. You can't escape social media if social media wants to focus on you).

On October 13 2012 04:59 Probe1 wrote:
You can call it brutal all you like but if she was 26 instead of 16 nobody would give a fuck. She messed up and killed herself. Sad but from the information I've seen not exactly shocking.

On October 13 2012 04:59 Probe1 wrote:
You can call it brutal all you like but if she was 26 instead of 16 nobody would give a fuck. She messed up and killed herself. Sad but from the information I've seen not exactly shocking.

On October 13 2012 05:01 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Coming from a guy I could never fully understand her perspective but I see bullying as just a fact of life, if she couldnt handle school bullying she would have been hard pressed to handle the real world which is full of even worse bullies.

I am however angered that she wasnt given the tools to deal with bullying from her parents and teachers etc

System let her down

On October 13 2012 04:58 FabledIntegral wrote:



There is definitely a difference. For example, I once was witnessing a bully constantly pick on a mentally handicapped kid that kept yelling at him "leave me alone." The bully wouldn't leave him alone. I walked up to the bully, shoved him against the locker, picked him up off the ground, and told him that if I ever saw him do that again I would beat the shit out of him. It felt good, I did not feel like a bully, and I have no regrets. In fact, I'm glad I did it.

On October 13 2012 05:06 Bobgrimly wrote:
Simple rules for life. NEVER FLASH ONLINE. NEVER FLASH UNLESS YOU ARE HAPPY FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
Should be taught in schools as basic 101 internet and phone usage.

Also as a side note.... don't be a whore. Respect relationships and demand that anyone you partner with does too. Don't think you are cool cheating on someone or helping someone cheat. You are just a whore.

Her life could have been a lot easier and better (she wasn't ugly) if she hadn't been a bit of a whore. Its hard to sympathize with her when she did all that willingly. That's what started it all... she willingly fucked up her life. Maybe unknowingly cause she was a bimbo with no clue but that's like a moth to the flame. Maybe her parents should have taught her not to be a whore.

I will drill the above lessons into any kids I ever have simply because then they can make their own choices. And its not like this is new ground. This has been the rule since phones started taking pictures or webcams became remotely common (the last ten years).

DO NOT BE A WHORE. Sucks that kids are horrible. Don't give them easy reasons to hate you. Tell your kids!

On October 13 2012 05:05 Fumanchu wrote:


There's also a difference between your stories.

In your story you're intervening between a bully and his target. When he refused to back down, you increased measures until he understood you were serious. In my opinion that's a justifiable action, and one to be proud of.

However in the other story, it sounded like one day a group of individuals decided that they were going to go around school and beat up all the bullies. To me this seems stupid and just as wrong as the actions a bully takes.

On October 13 2012 04:31 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
I hate bullies... one day in highschool me and a couple of friends decided to beat the shit out of the bullies at our school... I can still very clearly remember the sound of their skulls hitting the wall very hard...shit felt good.

On October 13 2012 05:02 ZasZ. wrote:


As long as you're leaving behind people who love and care about you, yes it is selfish. You don't think that her parents will blame themselves for this for the rest of their lives? I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not blaming her for the "victim" part of her death, where she was relentlessly bullied, I'm blaming her for the part where she ended her life and hurt all the people that did care about her.

First of all, wasn't she 15? That's not middle school, that's high school. She was put into some pretty unfortunate situations because of some mistakes she made when she was younger, but I have to feel like there was a breakdown in her communication with her parents and the authorities because both bullying (cyber or otherwise) and child pornography are taken extremely seriously in the U.S. I understand it doesn't help her cause with her peers if she calls in the cavalry on them and this creeper on the internet, but after a few kids get expelled for telling her to kill herself, they'll get the message.

From the pictures I've seen of her, she looks pretty. I don't know what her grades were like, so I can't comment on her intelligence, but aside from her boobs being out for the world to see, what grounds did these kids have to bully her? Based on my personal knowledge of being bullied, the worst part about it is that the bullies make you feel like you are inadequate or a lesser person, usually based on appearance but sometimes behavior/lifestyle choices. I understand teenagers aren't the most mentally stable individuals, but it sounds like at any point she could have stepped back and realized that these remarks weren't based in reality and that the kids were just looking for someone to bully.

And I don't know about the social media part. If you have no interest in engaging with your school anyways (because they are so hostile) there isn't really a point in having social media as a high schooler. They can continue to post about her, but I would be surprised if they did if she wasn't reading it. More likely, she was addicted to social media like every other teenager in America, and as a result was constantly exposed to the bullying all the time, which would drive anybody crazy.

I don't know...it's tragic when things like this happen and unfortunate that nothing will likely happen to the kids that caused this (although if they catch him, the cybercreeper will be in trouble), but I can't really muster any respect for her when this was her solution.

Suicide is a desperate act by someone who is in intense pain and wants their pain to stop. That is a HUMAN response to extreme pain, not a selfish one. And over 90 percent of the people who die by suicide have a mental illness at the time of their death, so they are not thinking clearly.

Saying that a person who had severe clinical depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, PTSD, or a similar illness was engaging in an act of selfishness when they died by suicide – even though their thought process, mood, and judgment were greatly affected by their mental illness – is not only inaccurate, but downright cruel, to both the suicide angel and the suicide survivors.

And those who use the word “selfish” are merely helping perpetuate the STIGMA associated with suicide.

A suicidal action that manifests from intense, excruciating, unbearable pain associated with a serious mental illness has nothing to do with selfishness. Period.