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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second.
Haha, was a rather controversial post right there
To be honest I don't mind women presenting themselves in such a light, in industries I regard as that being appropriate for. For example, pornography or modelling, there is no other element to what they are doing in these industries, they're being rewarded for being physically attractiev.
Just this league is a complete mockery of what sport is meant to be. The WTA tour has plenty of hotties, but at the end of the day it's still something that is primarily about women who have dedicated their lives to sport, playing their hearts out to win matches of tennis. This is nothing of the sort.
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On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second.
Don't mind bigots, they come and they go. Best not to pay attention and give no attention so they remain unnoticed.
On September 29 2012 09:22 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second. Haha, was a rather controversial post right there To be honest I don't mind women presenting themselves in such a light, in industries I regard as that being appropriate for. For example, pornography or modelling, there is no other element to what they are doing in these industries, they're being rewarded for being physically attractiev. Just this league is a complete mockery of what sport is meant to be. The WTA tour has plenty of hotties, but at the end of the day it's still something that is primarily about women who have dedicated their lives to sport, playing their hearts out to win matches of tennis. This is nothing of the sort.
I think the issue is that women can be competitive and look comparable to men in WTA and more ... technical sports (gymnastics/swimming/WTA/golf) but when it comes to brawns physical sports (NHL/NFL/NBA/(futbol/football/soccer)) you see a drastic difference in skill and it makes it more of a waste of time to watch. What does this do? It makes it more about the show then the game similar to how kpop is more about the musicians than the music (or so I've been told/come to believe).
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I love the 'it would never happen in europe' rubbish. Some people obviously never watched eurotrash!
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On September 29 2012 09:24 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second. Don't mind bigots, they come and they go. Best not to pay attention and give no attention so they remain unnoticed. Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second. Haha, was a rather controversial post right there To be honest I don't mind women presenting themselves in such a light, in industries I regard as that being appropriate for. For example, pornography or modelling, there is no other element to what they are doing in these industries, they're being rewarded for being physically attractiev. Just this league is a complete mockery of what sport is meant to be. The WTA tour has plenty of hotties, but at the end of the day it's still something that is primarily about women who have dedicated their lives to sport, playing their hearts out to win matches of tennis. This is nothing of the sort. I think the issue is that women can be competitive and look comparable to men in WTA and more ... technical sports (gymnastics/swimming/WTA/golf) but when it comes to brawns physical sports (NHL/NFL/NBA/(futbol/football/soccer)) you see a drastic difference in skill and it makes it more of a waste of time to watch. What does this do? It makes it more about the show then the game similar to how kpop is more about the musicians than the music (or so I've been told/come to believe).
Yeah, or even the whole foreign/Korean divide, with the former scene increasingly seeing emphasis on areas outside of pure playing ability.
The WTA is a good example though, I mean people like Billie-Jean King and Martina Navratilova really pushed for their sport to be taken seriously, and nowadays it is mostly! I just don't see how giving in and having the attitude of 'well we're playing a joke sport' will ever lead to a situation where your sport isn't perceived as a joke.
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As an 18-25 year old male who loves to watch all kinds of sports, I would tune into this before I would ever remotely consider watching the WNBA.
I don't know how the WNBA does numbers wise but the only reason I see it working is because it starts during the tail end of the NBA season to suck in basketball fans, then continues into the off season of the NBA and college, so the basketball fans don't have much else to watch. With this league running the same time, I'm extremely curious to see if a whole new demographic watches this leaving the WNBA numbers more or less intact, or if they take a hit because people would rather have more sex and less sport. I do think it's a dick move to run the league at the same time though, as it basically spits in the face of the WNBA who a ton of people have put a lot of time into building.
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WNBA teams would lose to most average high school teams, and no one would watch high school basketball.
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On September 29 2012 10:00 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 09:24 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second. Don't mind bigots, they come and they go. Best not to pay attention and give no attention so they remain unnoticed. On September 29 2012 09:22 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 29 2012 09:14 Zooper31 wrote:On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women). So gay porno isn't depicting men in a bad light? But when a woman is involved it is? Please take your ignorance elsewhere. OT this is obviously just meant to be about the T&A first and basketball second. Haha, was a rather controversial post right there To be honest I don't mind women presenting themselves in such a light, in industries I regard as that being appropriate for. For example, pornography or modelling, there is no other element to what they are doing in these industries, they're being rewarded for being physically attractiev. Just this league is a complete mockery of what sport is meant to be. The WTA tour has plenty of hotties, but at the end of the day it's still something that is primarily about women who have dedicated their lives to sport, playing their hearts out to win matches of tennis. This is nothing of the sort. I think the issue is that women can be competitive and look comparable to men in WTA and more ... technical sports (gymnastics/swimming/WTA/golf) but when it comes to brawns physical sports (NHL/NFL/NBA/(futbol/football/soccer)) you see a drastic difference in skill and it makes it more of a waste of time to watch. What does this do? It makes it more about the show then the game similar to how kpop is more about the musicians than the music (or so I've been told/come to believe). Yeah, or even the whole foreign/Korean divide, with the former scene increasingly seeing emphasis on areas outside of pure playing ability. The WTA is a good example though, I mean people like Billie-Jean King and Martina Navratilova really pushed for their sport to be taken seriously, and nowadays it is mostly! I just don't see how giving in and having the attitude of 'well we're playing a joke sport' will ever lead to a situation where your sport isn't perceived as a joke.
Like I said, there is no possible way Women's basketball will ever come close enough to be comparable to the NBA... It just isn't like Tennis or sports women can excel at (gymnastics/figure skating etc). Tennis is also a "singles" so one person can push the envelope just like one woman's doing it for NASCAR but in a team sport? Well let's just say the Edmonton Oiler's are pretty fucking bad but they'd hit triple digits against Canada's female hockey team which along with the US comes in as arguably the best female hockey team in the world.
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On September 29 2012 11:57 xrapture wrote:
WNBA teams would lose to most average high school teams, and no one would watch high school basketball.
Actually no, they would kill most top tier High School teams. Anything outside of super teams like AAU ones would get destroyed by a WNBA team.
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Guys, women dress different from men.
They are different creatures, the critisms of WNBA are deserved, we spectators are expected to "support" WNBA because women's rights. No. That's fucking misandry.
We watch games because they're exciting and fun to watch. Not because we have to. That's patronizing as having to hire a woman not for her qualifications but because "it's fair".
The BBA makes sense even if the name is nonsense, since technically men in bikinis could enter a team as well.
The visual appeal of the uniforms give it a great marketing edge over WNBA.
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On September 29 2012 10:45 Battleaxe wrote:
As an 18-25 year old male who loves to watch all kinds of sports, I would tune into this before I would ever remotely consider watching the WNBA.
I don't know how the WNBA does numbers wise but the only reason I see it working is because it starts during the tail end of the NBA season to suck in basketball fans, then continues into the off season of the NBA and college, so the basketball fans don't have much else to watch. With this league running the same time, I'm extremely curious to see if a whole new demographic watches this leaving the WNBA numbers more or less intact, or if they take a hit because people would rather have more sex and less sport. I do think it's a dick move to run the league at the same time though, as it basically spits in the face of the WNBA who a ton of people have put a lot of time into building.
18-25? So what is your actual age?
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On September 29 2012 13:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 11:57 xrapture wrote:
WNBA teams would lose to most average high school teams, and no one would watch high school basketball. Actually no, they would kill most top tier High School teams. Anything outside of super teams like AAU ones would get destroyed by a WNBA team.
The German ladies' soccer team (world champs) LOST against a team of 14-16 year olds from one of the German premier league soccer teams.
Reading the collected data on female vs. male teams is really sad. The reigning German champs lost against a seniors (like 40+ years old or something) team from an obscure team playing in the 5th league or so.
U16 team of one of the Premier League's worst teams beat the national team, goals were scored by a 13 year old.
And it goes on and on like that...
Not fast enough, not strong enough, not used to playing so rough. I know that the WNBA players potentially also cat-fight (or whatever you want to call it), but against a 6-6 guy who is pure 220 pounds of muscle, they'd just be shrugged off.
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On September 29 2012 14:21 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Guys, women dress different from men.
They are different creatures, the critisms of WNBA are deserved, we spectators are expected to "support" WNBA because women's rights. No. That's fucking misandry.
We watch games because they're exciting and fun to watch. Not because we have to. That's patronizing as having to hire a woman not for her qualifications but because "it's fair".
The BBA makes sense even if the name is nonsense, since technically men in bikinis could enter a team as well.
The visual appeal of the uniforms give it a great marketing edge over WNBA.
You think these women will be hired because of their qualifications with the sport?
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On September 29 2012 09:05 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote:
Not only does this need to be banned, but also needing prohibition: strip clubs, "dancing" clubs, playboy, maxim and all pornography depicting women (gay porno can stay because it's not exploiting women).
I'm pretty sure this was a joke...
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I would prefer naked basketball
so I won't be watching this until that happens
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Lol !!
Imagine in like 20 years your daughter comes up to you and is like "dad i tried out for bikini basketball"
i'd be like "HELL no you didnt bitch!!!"
seriously its a degrading line of work like prostitution or stripping.. honestly who could proudly tell their parents they were doing something like this? honestly.. just stick to regular wnba and let it suck i dont care why change shit now?
this is fucking weird man
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well, it sorta fits to our sexistic society.
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On September 29 2012 17:13 Rimstalker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 13:27 Ace wrote:On September 29 2012 11:57 xrapture wrote:
WNBA teams would lose to most average high school teams, and no one would watch high school basketball. Actually no, they would kill most top tier High School teams. Anything outside of super teams like AAU ones would get destroyed by a WNBA team. The German ladies' soccer team (world champs) LOST against a team of 14-16 year olds from one of the German premier league soccer teams. Reading the collected data on female vs. male teams is really sad. The reigning German champs lost against a seniors (like 40+ years old or something) team from an obscure team playing in the 5th league or so. U16 team of one of the Premier League's worst teams beat the national team, goals were scored by a 13 year old. And it goes on and on like that... Not fast enough, not strong enough, not used to playing so rough. I know that the WNBA players potentially also cat-fight (or whatever you want to call it), but against a 6-6 guy who is pure 220 pounds of muscle, they'd just be shrugged off.
Right, but the "average" high school team isn't loaded with 6'6 220 kids 
Which is why I said an AAU team WOULD indeed kill them since it's all college and NBA prospects.
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On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote:
Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
Pretty sure those women aren't forced to do anything.
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On September 29 2012 17:37 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2012 14:21 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Guys, women dress different from men.
They are different creatures, the critisms of WNBA are deserved, we spectators are expected to "support" WNBA because women's rights. No. That's fucking misandry.
We watch games because they're exciting and fun to watch. Not because we have to. That's patronizing as having to hire a woman not for her qualifications but because "it's fair".
The BBA makes sense even if the name is nonsense, since technically men in bikinis could enter a team as well.
The visual appeal of the uniforms give it a great marketing edge over WNBA. You think these women will be hired because of their qualifications with the sport?
That's my point, if it was pure physical and talent qualifications, they'd be muscular and sinewy. See Wlliams sisters.
Bikini <sport> creates a woman's sport that's both pleasing to the eye and sportsmanlike.
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Lol so people seriously consider this better than regular hoopball?
We have found SO MANY different ways to compete with eachother in a sportslike manner yet we still try to make EVERY of those ways to work as a monetizied industry.
Pretty pathetic.
If people don't watch WNBA then people don't watch it. Simple as that.
Our economics just think if you push enough into a market sooner or later the consumer will eat it.
On the first page, first post, you can see the result of genius marketing guys pushing a said product into a market.
Ignore it, don't respond to it, it will go away.
Oh and btw. women are better at some sports, so are men.
edit: @Hattori Hanzo, you have some twisted view on humanity and sports.
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