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On September 13 2012 02:12 HellRoxYa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:06 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Report: US to fly unmanned spy drones over eastern Libya to look for jihad camps tied to attack on embassy I don't see a link. And what the fuck is a "Jihad camp"?
Sounds like something from C&C Generals.
I have no clue how drones are going to:
a) be able to tell what these camps look like (and why would their be a random camp in eastern libya based off one rocket attack?)
b) tie any such 'camp' to the embassy attack
c) be particularly good at spying when their launch has made international news.
Seems more like a knee-jerk publicity thing, "Hey look, we're doing something with our fancy military tech!"
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On September 13 2012 02:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please. i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true. fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted.
TL likes facts and evidence, you know, the standard requisite of intelligent discussion. Instead, you are drawing wide-arching assumptions based on a clearly poor understanding of the tumultuous situation and using the death of US citizens abroad to get a political message out. Substantiate your claim or say something....oh I don't know.......reasonable? For example, do you have any idea who the Salafists are?
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On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it. Can you be more specific on that illuminati thing?
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I've been reading on this all morning on different news websites and still cannot find anywhere the repercussions for this...
Will there be any sort of repercussions aside from a boost in sercurity at our embassies?
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On September 13 2012 02:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please. i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true. fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted.
Because Bush going into Afghanistan and Iraq was fantastic foreign policy... A few embassies being attacked is nothing compared to the shitstorm those two wars set off.
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History is repeating , centuries ago we had the "Dark Age" perpetuated by christian fundamentalists (and we all know how many casualties were caused by it), now, (speaking mostly about the last 2 decades) we have the islamic fundamentalists, same crap, hate to the border of insanity, people getting killed left and right, tho, with a modern connotation. It makes you think that the whole reason why mankind is so fragmented in its thoughts and will is just because of "radical" and "perverted" interpretation of a religion.
Anyway, RIP Christopher Stevens and the 3 other diplomats that were killed.
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On September 13 2012 02:20 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please. i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true. fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted. TL likes facts and evidence, you know, the standard requisite of intelligent discussion. Instead, you are drawing wide-arching assumptions based on a clearly poor understanding of the tumultuous situation and using the death of US citizens abroad to get a political message out. Substantiate your claim or say something....oh I don't know.......reasonable?
so do you think it's pure coincidence that this happened in the two countries where Obama has involved the US in shady revolutions?
does TL like sticking their heads in the sand? what about denying the obvious?
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On September 13 2012 01:56 leperphilliac wrote:
News is coming that this was actually a planned attack by Al Qaida. Not only that, but the Lybian embassy "guards" actually pointed out the building where the ambassador was in. At this point, I'd say pull out of the countries and let the fuckers muck around in their own filth. Cut all forms of aid and diplomatic ties. Treat them like North Korea. Let's see who's going to come begging once they're starving to death.
To add to this here it reported as a revenge attack for the current number 2 in Al Qaida getting killed off and was done by 20 armed men (some with RPGs) and used the protest as a cover for the attack.
Although alot of responses to the film are absurd (such as Egypt wanting to sue the makers) the death of the 4 Americans was a terror attack with no real link to the film.
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On September 13 2012 02:23 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:20 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please. i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true. fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted. TL likes facts and evidence, you know, the standard requisite of intelligent discussion. Instead, you are drawing wide-arching assumptions based on a clearly poor understanding of the tumultuous situation and using the death of US citizens abroad to get a political message out. Substantiate your claim or say something....oh I don't know.......reasonable? so do you think it's pure coincidence that this happened in the two countries where Obama has involved the US in shady revolutions? does TL like sticking their heads in the sand? what about denying the obvious?
If it is so obvious demonstrate the logical process that leads to it.
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On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan.
War in Afghanistan, 1803 total US casualties, 12035 total dead or wounded
War in Iraq, 4477 total US casualties, 36395 total dead or wounded.
There are some numbers for you, stew on those for a bit.
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On September 12 2012 20:00 Bahamut1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 19:57 Eisregen wrote:
OK let's look at the facts:
Online film about islam, also equalling it with "cancer"
Anyone surprised some religious dudes snapped? -No, not really.
Man, one should know, that things like this can happen, especially as simple-minded believers are ppl you won't be able to discuss anything with. They will just break out in anger and kill you. Christianity gets bashed all the time, no rockets fired at people. Fact of the matter is Islam is extremly intolerant and paranoid about critisism ( justified, or as in this case rubbish) Muhammed cartoons > Riots Muhammed movie > riots African teddy bear named muhammed > Riots Such a downright violent religion, and people wonder why its known as the religion of violence and opression
But.. but.. but..... the Muslims all said that Islam is a religion of peace!
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On September 13 2012 02:26 Black[CAT] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 20:00 Bahamut1337 wrote:On September 12 2012 19:57 Eisregen wrote:
OK let's look at the facts:
Online film about islam, also equalling it with "cancer"
Anyone surprised some religious dudes snapped? -No, not really.
Man, one should know, that things like this can happen, especially as simple-minded believers are ppl you won't be able to discuss anything with. They will just break out in anger and kill you. Christianity gets bashed all the time, no rockets fired at people. Fact of the matter is Islam is extremly intolerant and paranoid about critisism ( justified, or as in this case rubbish) Muhammed cartoons > Riots Muhammed movie > riots African teddy bear named muhammed > Riots Such a downright violent religion, and people wonder why its known as the religion of violence and opression But.. but.. but..... the Muslims all said that Islam is a religion of peace!
This attack is not directly linked to the film in anyway at all.
Yes the knee jerk reaction to any criticism is absurd and very problematic this is not the case here.
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On September 13 2012 02:22 HomeWorld wrote:
History is repeating , centuries ago we had the "Dark Age" perpetuated by christian fundamentalists (and we all know how many casualties were caused by it), now, (speaking mostly about the last 2 decades) we have the islamic fundamentalists, same crap, hate to the border of insanity, people getting killed left and right, tho, with a modern connotation. It makes you think that the whole reason why mankind is so fragmented in its thoughts and will is just because of "radical" and "perverted" interpretation of a religion.
Anyway, RIP Christopher Stevens and the 3 other diplomats that were killed.
It would be good if you cultivate yourself instead of relaying ignorant leftist propaganda.
If you don't know anything about the History of Catholicism in Europe, and the Sunni Islamic doctrine, it's better you be quiet about them, instead of hiding your ignorance with mindless overgeneralizations.
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i cant believe the guy spent 2 mil on that video, its laughably bad!
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On September 13 2012 02:22 HomeWorld wrote:
History is repeating , centuries ago we had the "Dark Age" perpetuated by christian fundamentalists (and we all know how many casualties were caused by it), now, (speaking mostly about the last 2 decades) we have the islamic fundamentalists, same crap, hate to the border of insanity, people getting killed left and right, tho, with a modern connotation. It makes you think that the whole reason why mankind is so fragmented in its thoughts and will is just because of "radical" and "perverted" interpretation of a religion.
Anyway, RIP Christopher Stevens and the 3 other diplomats that were killed.
Anyone with a competent knowledge of history knows that the so-called label of "Dark Age" is a misnomer that no legitimate historian accepts.
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+ Show Spoiler [to people playing the blame game] +Get over your narrow politicizing of all these events, and grieve for the people who died. People... are... fucking... DEAD. To concentrate on blame when the bodies are still not cold is the act of someone who is a downright inhuman sociopath. Think for a moment if anyone involved would like for nothing to be remembered but anger, and not reflection on loss of life. Can you not see that what you write over here should be dedicated to the actual victims and their families? If I was a mod here, I'd delete half the thread after banning the people who write that shit.
This is a tragedy, and my heart goes to those who lost family, friends and loved ones.
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These guys don't need excuses, they'll slaughter people at their whim. Because of a movie? Move like because you felt particularly bloodthirsty lately and wanted an easy excuse...
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On September 13 2012 02:26 Black[CAT] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 20:00 Bahamut1337 wrote:On September 12 2012 19:57 Eisregen wrote:
OK let's look at the facts:
Online film about islam, also equalling it with "cancer"
Anyone surprised some religious dudes snapped? -No, not really.
Man, one should know, that things like this can happen, especially as simple-minded believers are ppl you won't be able to discuss anything with. They will just break out in anger and kill you. Christianity gets bashed all the time, no rockets fired at people. Fact of the matter is Islam is extremly intolerant and paranoid about critisism ( justified, or as in this case rubbish) Muhammed cartoons > Riots Muhammed movie > riots African teddy bear named muhammed > Riots Such a downright violent religion, and people wonder why its known as the religion of violence and opression But.. but.. but..... the Muslims all said that Islam is a religion of peace!
It is, without a doubt, till the moment some persons uses it to push their own "agenda". Make no mistake Islam is a good religion, as every other religions on Earth, but sadly, as much as it is "good" there will always be some "bad" persons to take advantage of it and "push" their own will.
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On September 13 2012 02:23 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:20 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please. i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true. fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted. TL likes facts and evidence, you know, the standard requisite of intelligent discussion. Instead, you are drawing wide-arching assumptions based on a clearly poor understanding of the tumultuous situation and using the death of US citizens abroad to get a political message out. Substantiate your claim or say something....oh I don't know.......reasonable? so do you think it's pure coincidence that this happened in the two countries where Obama has involved the US in shady revolutions? does TL like sticking their heads in the sand? what about denying the obvious?
I don't have to think that these events were pure coincidence to not be willing to place blame on the Presidents foreign policy, at least not with tangible evidence. In fact, if you knew anything about the Ansar-al-Shariah, you'd know that they look for any excuse needed to attack those who oppose their radical brand of Islam and are an unfortunate consequence of a revolution, hardly a consequence of anything being "shady" (which, in my experience, is childspeak for I don't understand). In fact, Salafists and fundamentalists had their agenda fare very poorly in recent days, both in popular Libyan appeal and in governmental influence. Furthermore, reports suggest that the TERRORISTS themselves were attacking based on the insult to their religion offered forth by a neo-con fool of a director who probably thinks as you do. So, tell me again, based on good evidence from the region, what is so obvious?
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