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Please don't use this thread as a platform to argue about religion. -semioldguy |
On September 13 2012 01:29 Bahamut1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 00:10 Souma wrote:On September 13 2012 00:09 Sated wrote:On September 13 2012 00:03 WhiteDog wrote:On September 13 2012 00:00 Sated wrote:On September 12 2012 23:59 Souma wrote:On September 12 2012 23:56 Sated wrote:On September 12 2012 23:36 Souma wrote:On September 12 2012 23:29 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 23:15 Souma wrote:
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I've already said that you cannot compare Buddhism to any other religion. How about we compare Muslims to the Jews, who have been engaged in systematic genocide against the Palestinians? But if you really want to bring up Buddhists, how about the Buddhists of Myanmar murdering Muslims? And if Christians were in the same situation, they would be leading crusades right about now.
Yes, Muslims in general have more radical principles, but the ones going out murdering people are a tiny, tiny minority of fanatics. The quotes you've listed before were all taken out of context. You might want to actually read the Quran. It might help you understand them more.
And jeeze, really? The United States directly props up a heinous monarch who slaughters his people and suddenly, it's every Muslim who gets the backlash for it. Lose-lose situation for the Muslims, ain't it? Genocide? You mean the Palestinian's myriad of attacks on the Israelis. I don't see how this proves your point, given that this is a conflict that at it's core is based on an interpretation of who the Bible says owns the land. And you realize that the violence between the Muslims and Buddhists in Myanmar was started by the Muslims who raped and murdered a Buddhist? The point is, there is a easy path from Islam to murderous atrocities. Don't take my word for it, go watch some videos of these murderers and terrorist boasting. Let them speak for themselves. You can call them tiny, tiny minorities all you want, all murder is a tiny, tiny minority, but the fact remains that this tiny, tiny minorities doesn't exist in other religions. There are gradations of evil and intolerance. When's the last time any other religion rioted and murdered because someone else made fun of their god? And multiply that by, what, 6? Gee, I wonder why the Palestinians are attacking the Israelis, must have nothing to do with this: ![[image loading]](http://www.thehypertexts.com/images/israel-palestine_map.jpg) And the Myanmar situation stems much further back than an incident in which some men attempted to rape a girl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_in_BurmaThe point is, these people who are committing murderous atrocities -- this tiny, tiny minority -- interpret the Quran in their own way, a way in which most every other Muslim condemns. The thing with Western nations is, we don't need to use religion as a pretense to murder people - we use Democracy. Islam is to them what Democracy is to us. I wonder who's taken more lives - Democracy or Islam? If I made the same chart for UK territory from the days of the Empire to the present day, would you also deem it acceptable for the UK to attack - for instance - India? Using that chart to justify violence is dumb. Your example is dumb. If it was Germany taking over England, it would make sense for the English to fight back, yes. Okay, now I go to bed. You're from America, so how about this: Would it be okay for Native Americans to start bombing parts of the USA? EDIT: To the people above, my example was supposed to be extreme and stupid, it highlights just how stupid the original chart is. The indiens fought back when Americans took over their lands, and who ever said they shouldn't have ? Also, Israelians took over Palestine 60 years ago, not very far, perfectly normal for them to fight. The amount of time required for people to stop being pissed off about something is completely subjective. The point remains that using that chart to justify violence (directed almost entirely at innocent civilians I might add; it's not as if this is a military conflict) is entirely ridiculous. It's SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE. The Palestinians are losing and have lost way more civilians than the Israelis. They lost THEIR ENTIRE COUNTRY. I laughed a bit, the Palestinians went from 300.000 to over 3 million in 50 years, worst genocide ever. The Palestinians rejected their own state, opted for a global Jihad against Israel and got smacked, own fault.
It's really sad isn't it? The media somehow twists suicide bombers into heroes and murderers into freedom fighters. If you look at the history, more Jews have been expelled from Arab Nations than Palestinians have been expelled from Israel. The IDF is no angel and they are accountable for many civilian deaths but that is a consequence of the Palestinian's methods of resistance. These "freedom fighters" hind behind women and children and store military supplies in schools and mosques. As long as these are the practices they employ I can't find sympathy for colateral damages.
It's SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE. The Palestinians are losing and have lost way more civilians than the Israelis. They lost THEIR ENTIRE COUNTRY.
One group uses civilians and civilian shelters as shields while the other puts themselves in front of their civilians...
Sorry if this is off topic...
RIP to the deceased, it's really a terrible situation.
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On September 13 2012 01:38 heroyi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it.
Go ahead and call me a troll, I can certainly say I ain't one, I stopped trolling 2-3 years ago because I matured, and why would a troll argue with viable arguments and actually say the truth, as far as I know trolls say stupid and retarded stuff in order to gain a reaction from people who believe firmly in what they do.
You only think Saddam Hussein was bad because the US government told you so. Let me ask you this, where is the weapons of mass destruction? Have you seen Iraq lately? It's thousand times worse than when it was in Saddams time, now you get kidnapped for no reason in the streets of Iraq, terrorists detonate explosive cars and kill each other and the people that are getting extorted.
Guys, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm presenting some facts that we in Iraq know because we have seen with our own eyes. The truth is here you either listen to it or you don't, you don't need to call me stupid just because this truth is outside your frame of thought or as I call it "The Ignorant Brain Box"
This isn't even about Islam anymore, this is now about the unjustly invasion of Iraq by the US. I'm not even mad at you guys, because the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) use to always smile and say peace upon both young and older people, and we muslims try to replicate his life, so peace upon you, I wish you no harm because you don't believe in something I don't, after all we are all humans and the same species, you don't see dogs declaring war on one another with rockets and weapons.
To end this provoking argument I leave you with a sura (story/verse) from the Qur'An.
109:1
Say, "O disbelievers,
109:2
I do not worship what you worship.
109:3
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
109:4
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
109:5
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
109:6
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
You belive in what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.
Peace and blessings upon you all brethren ..............seriously wtf did I read... I read "I am not trolling" like 5 times." Like...so much...clusterfuck + Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:37 ddrddrddrddr wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57510988/ap-anti-muslim-filmmaker-in-hiding-after-protests/Show nested quote +Bacile said he is a real estate developer and an Israeli Jew. But Israeli officials said they had not heard of him and there was no record of him being a citizen. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not permitted to share personal information with the media. Show nested quote +The film claims Muhammad was a fraud. The 14-minute trailer of the movie that reportedly set off the protests, posted on the website YouTube in an original English version and another dubbed into Egyptian Arabic, shows an amateur cast performing a wooden dialogue of insults disguised as revelations about Muhammad, whose obedient followers are presented as a cadre of goons.
It depicts Muhammad as a feckless philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse, among other overtly insulting claims that have caused outrage. Show nested quote +Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.
"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it." The hell, every embassy should have enough firepower to take down mobs? This guy's actions feels really irresponsible. He knew what would happen and then he blames embassy security for the ambassador's death. That's pretty lame. Ok..that is what i thought. That is a pretty big douche move on the producers fault. And no. By the agreement the COUNTRY should have the firepower to take down a mob. Libya should be utilizing their military and security to defend any embassy on their soil. This is an absolute right between the nations.
The country you say? That seems more reasonable. Thought he was saying embassies should field their own miniature police force.
Still a douche imo though.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it.
Go ahead and call me a troll, I can certainly say I ain't one, I stopped trolling 2-3 years ago because I matured, and why would a troll argue with viable arguments and actually say the truth, as far as I know trolls say stupid and retarded stuff in order to gain a reaction from people who believe firmly in what they do.
You only think Saddam Hussein was bad because the US government told you so. Let me ask you this, where is the weapons of mass destruction? Have you seen Iraq lately? It's thousand times worse than when it was in Saddams time, now you get kidnapped for no reason in the streets of Iraq, terrorists detonate explosive cars and kill each other and the people that are getting extorted.
Guys, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm presenting some facts that we in Iraq know because we have seen with our own eyes. The truth is here you either listen to it or you don't, you don't need to call me stupid just because this truth is outside your frame of thought or as I call it "The Ignorant Brain Box"
This isn't even about Islam anymore, this is now about the unjustly invasion of Iraq by the US. I'm not even mad at you guys, because the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) use to always smile and say peace upon both young and older people, and we muslims try to replicate his life, so peace upon you, I wish you no harm because you don't believe in something I don't, after all we are all humans and the same species, you don't see dogs declaring war on one another with rockets and weapons.
To end this provoking argument I leave you with a sura (story/verse) from the Qur'An.
109:1
Say, "O disbelievers,
109:2
I do not worship what you worship.
109:3
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
109:4
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
109:5
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
109:6
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
You belive in what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.
Peace and blessings upon you all brethren
You are trolling, waaay too obvious 
> saying USA got brainwashed
> believes in something proven to be unreal
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On September 13 2012 01:44 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 01:38 heroyi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it.
Go ahead and call me a troll, I can certainly say I ain't one, I stopped trolling 2-3 years ago because I matured, and why would a troll argue with viable arguments and actually say the truth, as far as I know trolls say stupid and retarded stuff in order to gain a reaction from people who believe firmly in what they do.
You only think Saddam Hussein was bad because the US government told you so. Let me ask you this, where is the weapons of mass destruction? Have you seen Iraq lately? It's thousand times worse than when it was in Saddams time, now you get kidnapped for no reason in the streets of Iraq, terrorists detonate explosive cars and kill each other and the people that are getting extorted.
Guys, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm presenting some facts that we in Iraq know because we have seen with our own eyes. The truth is here you either listen to it or you don't, you don't need to call me stupid just because this truth is outside your frame of thought or as I call it "The Ignorant Brain Box"
This isn't even about Islam anymore, this is now about the unjustly invasion of Iraq by the US. I'm not even mad at you guys, because the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) use to always smile and say peace upon both young and older people, and we muslims try to replicate his life, so peace upon you, I wish you no harm because you don't believe in something I don't, after all we are all humans and the same species, you don't see dogs declaring war on one another with rockets and weapons.
To end this provoking argument I leave you with a sura (story/verse) from the Qur'An.
109:1
Say, "O disbelievers,
109:2
I do not worship what you worship.
109:3
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
109:4
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
109:5
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
109:6
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
You belive in what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.
Peace and blessings upon you all brethren ..............seriously wtf did I read... I read "I am not trolling" like 5 times." Like...so much...clusterfuck + Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:37 ddrddrddrddr wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57510988/ap-anti-muslim-filmmaker-in-hiding-after-protests/Show nested quote +Bacile said he is a real estate developer and an Israeli Jew. But Israeli officials said they had not heard of him and there was no record of him being a citizen. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not permitted to share personal information with the media. Show nested quote +The film claims Muhammad was a fraud. The 14-minute trailer of the movie that reportedly set off the protests, posted on the website YouTube in an original English version and another dubbed into Egyptian Arabic, shows an amateur cast performing a wooden dialogue of insults disguised as revelations about Muhammad, whose obedient followers are presented as a cadre of goons.
It depicts Muhammad as a feckless philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse, among other overtly insulting claims that have caused outrage. Show nested quote +Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.
"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it." The hell, every embassy should have enough firepower to take down mobs? This guy's actions feels really irresponsible. He knew what would happen and then he blames embassy security for the ambassador's death. That's pretty lame. Ok..that is what i thought. That is a pretty big douche move on the producers fault. And no. By the agreement the COUNTRY should have the firepower to take down a mob. Libya should be utilizing their military and security to defend any embassy on their soil. This is an absolute right between the nations. The country you say? That seems more reasonable. Thought he was saying embassies should field their own miniature police force. Still a douche imo though.
That guy is an ass. Those bloods are equally on his hand. I figured he would know what would happen cause otherwise that would be pretty ignorant.
And I don't know what the exact agreement act is called but it establishes that any country housing an embassy (from any nation) MUST defend it and secure the well-being of the people in it from any attacks. That is why I am confused as to what Libya's government is doing (are they doing anything or are they slow?)
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United States7481 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:01 deichkind wrote:
We removed Gaddafi for this? Shouldve let him bomb the shit of out that town...
Please don't make uninformed posts like this. These were NEVER thought to be anti-Gaddafi people, and in fact it has come out that it was pro-Gaddafi forces taking advantage of the protests to cover for their actions.
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On September 13 2012 01:44 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 01:38 heroyi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it.
Go ahead and call me a troll, I can certainly say I ain't one, I stopped trolling 2-3 years ago because I matured, and why would a troll argue with viable arguments and actually say the truth, as far as I know trolls say stupid and retarded stuff in order to gain a reaction from people who believe firmly in what they do.
You only think Saddam Hussein was bad because the US government told you so. Let me ask you this, where is the weapons of mass destruction? Have you seen Iraq lately? It's thousand times worse than when it was in Saddams time, now you get kidnapped for no reason in the streets of Iraq, terrorists detonate explosive cars and kill each other and the people that are getting extorted.
Guys, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm presenting some facts that we in Iraq know because we have seen with our own eyes. The truth is here you either listen to it or you don't, you don't need to call me stupid just because this truth is outside your frame of thought or as I call it "The Ignorant Brain Box"
This isn't even about Islam anymore, this is now about the unjustly invasion of Iraq by the US. I'm not even mad at you guys, because the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) use to always smile and say peace upon both young and older people, and we muslims try to replicate his life, so peace upon you, I wish you no harm because you don't believe in something I don't, after all we are all humans and the same species, you don't see dogs declaring war on one another with rockets and weapons.
To end this provoking argument I leave you with a sura (story/verse) from the Qur'An.
109:1
Say, "O disbelievers,
109:2
I do not worship what you worship.
109:3
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
109:4
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
109:5
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
109:6
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
You belive in what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.
Peace and blessings upon you all brethren ..............seriously wtf did I read... I read "I am not trolling" like 5 times." Like...so much...clusterfuck + Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 01:37 ddrddrddrddr wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57510988/ap-anti-muslim-filmmaker-in-hiding-after-protests/Show nested quote +Bacile said he is a real estate developer and an Israeli Jew. But Israeli officials said they had not heard of him and there was no record of him being a citizen. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not permitted to share personal information with the media. Show nested quote +The film claims Muhammad was a fraud. The 14-minute trailer of the movie that reportedly set off the protests, posted on the website YouTube in an original English version and another dubbed into Egyptian Arabic, shows an amateur cast performing a wooden dialogue of insults disguised as revelations about Muhammad, whose obedient followers are presented as a cadre of goons.
It depicts Muhammad as a feckless philanderer who approved of child sexual abuse, among other overtly insulting claims that have caused outrage. Show nested quote +Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.
"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it." The hell, every embassy should have enough firepower to take down mobs? This guy's actions feels really irresponsible. He knew what would happen and then he blames embassy security for the ambassador's death. That's pretty lame. Ok..that is what i thought. That is a pretty big douche move on the producers fault. And no. By the agreement the COUNTRY should have the firepower to take down a mob. Libya should be utilizing their military and security to defend any embassy on their soil. This is an absolute right between the nations. The country you say? That seems more reasonable. Thought he was saying embassies should field their own miniature police force. Still a douche imo though.
Embassies do have their own protection however it is not meant to deal with giant crowds nor heavily armed attackers. The main line of defense for an Embassy is always the local security provided by the Country in which the Embassy or Consulate resides. The Marines stationed at an Embassy are there for internal security inside the Embassy building, not for defending the walls from an angry mob or keeping a heavily armed mob. This is a failure by the Libyan Government in not providing enough security to keep the Embassy secure until those inside could at least be evacuated somewhere safe.
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News is coming that this was actually a planned attack by Al Qaida. Not only that, but the Lybian embassy "guards" actually pointed out the building where the ambassador was in. At this point, I'd say pull out of the countries and let the fuckers muck around in their own filth. Cut all forms of aid and diplomatic ties. Treat them like North Korea. Let's see who's going to come begging once they're starving to death.
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Blaming Islam for this is just ignorant, don't label an entire faith based on a few extremists. You can just as easily justify violence with Christianity or 'Spreading freedom/democracy'.
The Israeli director calling Islam a cancer is just laughable. If anything's cancerous to the Middle East it is the Jewish usurpation of part of Palentine after WW2 and their continued encroachment.
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United States43203 Posts
On September 13 2012 01:56 leperphilliac wrote:
News is coming that this was actually a planned attack by Al Qaida. Not only that, but the Lybian embassy "guards" actually pointed out the building where the ambassador was in. At this point, I'd say pull out of the countries and let the fuckers muck around in their own filth. Cut all forms of aid and diplomatic ties. Treat them like North Korea. Let's see who's going to come begging once they're starving to death.
Libya is oil rich, if we leave them to their own devices there's a chance some of that wealth will stay in Libya.
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On September 13 2012 01:56 leperphilliac wrote:
Cut all forms of aid and diplomatic ties. Treat them like North Korea. Let's see who's going to come begging once they're starving to death.
You think Libya will starve without US aid o.O Even if they did all you do is make the poor suffer and aid recruitment. The 'soldiers' are always the last to starve. If anything I'd suggest increasing aid but I doubt the US can afford to be doing that.
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On September 12 2012 20:17 Bahamut1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 20:14 Souma wrote:"Pro Jihad nations"... what? Don't let a group of crazies distort your view of an entire nation. Since Egypt is ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood who has a nice little slogan ''The Brotherhood's credo was and is, "Allah is our objective; the Quran is our law, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."[9][10] Its most famous slogan, used worldwide, is "Islam is the solution."[8]'' Not to mention the close links of many elements of the Muslim Brotherhood with Jihad groups. Yes a pro Jihad nation.
You are misinformed and look at things superficially. The military still holds the power in Egypt, to a significantly larger degree than corporations/financial institutions do in our country, to put it in perspective. If the Muslim Brotherhood held real power, there would be Sharia and state-mandated persecution of the Copts as we speak. THEN we'd be able to talk about a 'pro-jihad nation.'
On September 13 2012 01:21 SiroKO wrote:
Salafism and takfirism is true Islam.
It's not even up to debate.
Don't bother with the Othman Qu'ran which is a mindless piece of incoherent and unchronological babble.
Read the biography of Muhammed, which is supposed to be a role model for all Muslims.
Once you will truely know who Muslims see as a hero, you will understand that nothing good can directly emerge from this doctrine.
I've certainly read and heard a lot about Mohammad, even from the Muslim perspective, but he was pretty fucked up. I'll gladly say that about anyone I perceive as such, because I don't believe religious figures are automatically "holy" just because a religion says so...
On September 13 2012 01:35 GT3 wrote:
The illuminati has you brainwashed so good that even when the truth is presented to you, there is a veil between you and it.
Go ahead and call me a troll, I can certainly say I ain't one, I stopped trolling 2-3 years ago because I matured, and why would a troll argue with viable arguments and actually say the truth, as far as I know trolls say stupid and retarded stuff in order to gain a reaction from people who believe firmly in what they do.
You only think Saddam Hussein was bad because the US government told you so. Let me ask you this, where is the weapons of mass destruction? Have you seen Iraq lately? It's thousand times worse than when it was in Saddams time, now you get kidnapped for no reason in the streets of Iraq, terrorists detonate explosive cars and kill each other and the people that are getting extorted.
Guys, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm presenting some facts that we in Iraq know because we have seen with our own eyes. The truth is here you either listen to it or you don't, you don't need to call me stupid just because this truth is outside your frame of thought or as I call it "The Ignorant Brain Box"
This isn't even about Islam anymore, this is now about the unjustly invasion of Iraq by the US. I'm not even mad at you guys, because the prophet Muhammed (PBUH) use to always smile and say peace upon both young and older people, and we muslims try to replicate his life, so peace upon you, I wish you no harm because you don't believe in something I don't, after all we are all humans and the same species, you don't see dogs declaring war on one another with rockets and weapons.
To end this provoking argument I leave you with a sura (story/verse) from the Qur'An.
109:1
Say, "O disbelievers,
109:2
I do not worship what you worship.
109:3
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
109:4
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
109:5
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
109:6
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
You belive in what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.
Peace and blessings upon you all brethren
Hussein is largely exaggerated for purposes of beating the war drum, but he was one fucked up dumbass, and his sons were 100x worse. It is very true though that Iraq is a complete shithole compared to how it used to be. Living in a county with tons of Iraqi Christian immigrants from different times, you tend to learn a lot about the past and present of the nation.
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On September 12 2012 22:26 GT3 wrote:
but in Islam we are not allowed to kill innocents, we have morals and ethics, something you and the american government is severely lacking in.
too bad they are not proving it with their actions
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Report: US to fly unmanned spy drones over eastern Libya to look for jihad camps tied to attack on embassy
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On September 12 2012 23:56 paralleluniverse wrote:
While 9/11 wasn't the start of the conflict between the Western world and the Islamic world, that doesn't change the fact that it is the ideology of Islam that uniquely explains why they are murdering Americans and blowing themselves up.
Somebody really needs to stop watching too much TV.
You can change "islam/muslims" for "communism/russians" and it would sound exactly as what was said some 30 years ago. I find that hilarius.
On September 13 2012 02:02 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 22:26 GT3 wrote:
but in Islam we are not allowed to kill innocents, we have morals and ethics, something you and the american government is severely lacking in.
too bad they are not proving it with their actions
War has changed.
(In case you don't get it I'm quoting Solid Snake, both parties are killing thousands of innocents, its a war, only a dumb ass would believe both are not doing it on purpuse, civilians either get in the way or its to teach them a lesson).
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2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan.
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On September 13 2012 02:06 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Report: US to fly unmanned spy drones over eastern Libya to look for jihad camps tied to attack on embassy
I don't see a link.
And what the fuck is a "Jihad camp"?
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On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan.
Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please.
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On September 13 2012 02:06 Nevermind86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:56 paralleluniverse wrote:
While 9/11 wasn't the start of the conflict between the Western world and the Islamic world, that doesn't change the fact that it is the ideology of Islam that uniquely explains why they are murdering Americans and blowing themselves up. Somebody really needs to stop watching too much TV. You can change "islam/muslims" for "communism/russians" and it would sound exactly as what was said some 30 years ago. I find that hilarius.
Muhammed orderd to kill people who mocked his religion.
This is a fact.
Thus, people seeing him as a role model kill people mocking his religion.
Nothing wrong with that, according to the Othman Qu'ran, and the Hadiths.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 13 2012 02:15 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:11 sc2superfan101 wrote:
2 countries that Obama has caused chaos in.
2 countries where our embassies are attacked.
which 2 countries did this not happen in?
Iraq, Afghanistan. Stellar logic, talk about the incident at hand and not your bullshit political bias please.
i am talking about the incident on hand. and what bullshit political bias? you're the one who inserted some kind of "bias", I just stated the facts and let you draw the conclusions. apparently, you pretty much think what i think, only it seems to make you very angry that its true.
fact is, Obama's ridiculous lack of anything resembling a rational foreign policy is what caused this incident, and i think that needs to be highlighted.
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Oh my god.. Repercussions of this is gonna be huge.
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