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http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/in-the-shadows/pot-illegal/big-pharma-government.html
Big Pharma and Government
The Pharmaceutical Industry
In 2009, the global pharmaceutical market was worth $837 billion—and it’s on track to top $1 trillion by 2014. This is a lot of money to spread around, so when it comes to lobbying efforts, very few have this group’s clout. Mostly, Big Pharma gets what Big Pharma wants. And one thing it wants is for marijuana to remain illegal.
It’s not hard to figure out why. You can’t patent a plant—and that’s a big problem for pharmaceutical companies when it comes to medical marijuana.
Why?
Imagine a wonder drug able to provide much-needed relief from dozens and dozens of conditions. Imagine it’s cheap, easy to grow, easy to dispense, easy to ingest and, over millennia of “product testing,” has produced no fatalities and few side effects—except for the fact that it “reportedly” makes you feel really, really good. That would be quite a drug. Knowing all this, it’s easy to see why the pharmaceutical industry worries about competition from marijuana.
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On September 04 2012 06:55 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:06 Liman wrote:
I dont think inhaling smoke is good for you,even if it makes you feel good.Im for banning all smokes sry. are you for banning sugar?
This guy raises a good point. Sugar can do the exact same things as alcohol/tobacco/marijuana, and yet look at the world. Sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar + Show Spoiler [etc etc] +sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar
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On September 04 2012 07:01 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:55 Rice wrote:On September 04 2012 06:06 Liman wrote:
I dont think inhaling smoke is good for you,even if it makes you feel good.Im for banning all smokes sry. are you for banning sugar? This guy raises a good point. Sugar can do the exact same things as alcohol/tobacco/marijuana, and yet look at the world. Sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar + Show Spoiler [etc etc] +sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar everywhere.
marijuana is actually much safer then sugar
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On September 04 2012 07:03 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:01 Psychonian wrote:On September 04 2012 06:55 Rice wrote:On September 04 2012 06:06 Liman wrote:
I dont think inhaling smoke is good for you,even if it makes you feel good.Im for banning all smokes sry. are you for banning sugar? This guy raises a good point. Sugar can do the exact same things as alcohol/tobacco/marijuana, and yet look at the world. Sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar + Show Spoiler [etc etc] +sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar everywhere. marijuana is actually much safer then sugar
Exactly my point.
You gotta love these people running the USA.
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ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. if it is made legal the will have to regulate the ammount u smoke or make it illegal to drive while smoking weed similiar to what they do with alchohol.
On September 04 2012 07:01 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 06:55 Rice wrote:On September 04 2012 06:06 Liman wrote:
I dont think inhaling smoke is good for you,even if it makes you feel good.Im for banning all smokes sry. are you for banning sugar? This guy raises a good point. Sugar can do the exact same things as alcohol/tobacco/marijuana, and yet look at the world. Sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar + Show Spoiler [etc etc] +sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar sugar everywhere.
thats a riduculous argument tbh. are you going to ban markers to?
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On September 04 2012 00:00 Leetley wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 23:22 Matkap wrote:
Legalizing weed would NOT make it cheapier at ALL You don't have a clue, man. The price would DROP.
Why would they? Why would anyone lower the price of a product when people are willing to shell out a ton of money for it? If people are willing to buy a product for 500 EUR, I'm not going to sell it for 400. I'll ask 500, or more.
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On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less.
what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world.
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On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world.
ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse.
weed makes you do the stupidest shit imaginable that you wouldnt do otherwise. dont lie and say it doesnt.
im not against weed or anything, but making it 100% legal is a bad idea. it needs to be limited just like alcohol is.
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On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse.
then i guess you are all for the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went.
an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it.
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On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it.
alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether.
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I think it should be legal. Alcohol is way worse than marijuana. Honestly if anyone actually gave a damn about public safety, preventing addicts, or whatever, they would go after alcohol, not weed.
I drink sparingly, and smoke never, but I've been around people who do both in large amounts. Weed smokers may be depressingly unambitious and act dumb when they're high, but drunk people and their lowered inhibitions and impaired vision/senses/judgement are a force to be fucking feared. They are dangerous to themselves and others. And alcohol can kill you.
As for marijuana being a gateway drug, that's just a ridiculous argument. You can't just make something illegal cause it might cause someone to do something else illegal, or everything would be illegal. If it even is a gateway drug, which Ive never seen a study saying it is to any more significant extent than say alcohol, then making it legal would solve the problem. There are different cultures and patterns of behavior associated with legal and illegal substances, so essentially, banning it for being a gateway to other illegal drugs is like a self fulfilling prophecy. It's not a fair statement, because the activity in question is already illegal and thus more likely to be pursued by those prone to illegal activity.
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On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all for the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it.
Actually A LOT of people in this thread is saying exactly that.
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On September 04 2012 07:19 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether.
I guess the mexican cartels don't fight over trade routes...
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On September 04 2012 07:22 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all for the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. Actually A LOT of people in this thread is saying exactly that.
not really
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On September 04 2012 07:22 Zahir wrote:
I think it should be legal. Alcohol is way worse than marijuana. Honestly if anyone actually gave a damn about public safety, preventing addicts, or whatever, they would go after alcohol, not weed.
I drink sparingly, and smoke never, but I've been around people who do both in large amounts. Weed smokers may be depressingly unambitious and act dumb when they're high, but drunk people and their lowered inhibitions and impaired vision/senses/judgement are a force to be fucking feared. They are dangerous to themselves and others. And alcohol can kill you.
As for marijuana being a gateway drug, that's just a ridiculous argument. You can't just make something illegal cause it might cause someone to do something else illegal, or everything would be illegal. If it even is a gateway drug, which Ive never seen a study saying it is to any more significant extent than say alcohol, then making it legal would solve the problem. There are different cultures and patterns of behavior associated with legal and illegal substances, so essentially, banning it for being a gateway to other illegal drugs is like a self fulfilling prophecy. It's not a fair statement, because the activity in question is already illegal and thus more likely to be pursued by those prone to illegal activity.
i dont think you have ever seen ppl jump off of there roofs into a blue mat because they were to high to notice it wasnt water.
marijuna may not be as bad as alchol or cigs, but to say it causes no negative effects (especially when you smoke ALOT of it every day) is foolish.
since ppl wont beleive my words alone ill have to provide some links.
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm
it does harm the body, do not let a fool tell u that it does absolutly nothing to you.
now is it enough to make it illegal? well that is where the debate starts. again, i have nothing against it being legal as long as its regulated.
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to have it legal an unregulated would be talking about decriminalization
this thread says legalization, which implies regulation
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On September 04 2012 07:27 DigiGnar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:19 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether. I guess the mexican cartels don't fight over trade routes...
dont know what ur implying. making weed legal wont hurt the cartels in the slightest.
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On September 04 2012 07:31 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:22 Zahir wrote:
I think it should be legal. Alcohol is way worse than marijuana. Honestly if anyone actually gave a damn about public safety, preventing addicts, or whatever, they would go after alcohol, not weed.
I drink sparingly, and smoke never, but I've been around people who do both in large amounts. Weed smokers may be depressingly unambitious and act dumb when they're high, but drunk people and their lowered inhibitions and impaired vision/senses/judgement are a force to be fucking feared. They are dangerous to themselves and others. And alcohol can kill you.
As for marijuana being a gateway drug, that's just a ridiculous argument. You can't just make something illegal cause it might cause someone to do something else illegal, or everything would be illegal. If it even is a gateway drug, which Ive never seen a study saying it is to any more significant extent than say alcohol, then making it legal would solve the problem. There are different cultures and patterns of behavior associated with legal and illegal substances, so essentially, banning it for being a gateway to other illegal drugs is like a self fulfilling prophecy. It's not a fair statement, because the activity in question is already illegal and thus more likely to be pursued by those prone to illegal activity. i dont think you have ever seen ppl jump off of there roofs into a blue mat because they were to high to notice it wasnt water. marijuna may not be as bad as alchol or cigs, but to say it causes no negative effects (especially when you smoke ALOT of it every day) is foolish. since ppl wont beleive my words alone ill have to provide some links. http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htmit does harm the body, do not let a fool tell u that it does absolutly nothing to you. now is it enough to make it illegal? well that is where the debate starts. again, i have nothing against it being legal as long as its regulated.
that artical is nothing but lies, next
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On September 04 2012 07:33 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:31 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:22 Zahir wrote:
I think it should be legal. Alcohol is way worse than marijuana. Honestly if anyone actually gave a damn about public safety, preventing addicts, or whatever, they would go after alcohol, not weed.
I drink sparingly, and smoke never, but I've been around people who do both in large amounts. Weed smokers may be depressingly unambitious and act dumb when they're high, but drunk people and their lowered inhibitions and impaired vision/senses/judgement are a force to be fucking feared. They are dangerous to themselves and others. And alcohol can kill you.
As for marijuana being a gateway drug, that's just a ridiculous argument. You can't just make something illegal cause it might cause someone to do something else illegal, or everything would be illegal. If it even is a gateway drug, which Ive never seen a study saying it is to any more significant extent than say alcohol, then making it legal would solve the problem. There are different cultures and patterns of behavior associated with legal and illegal substances, so essentially, banning it for being a gateway to other illegal drugs is like a self fulfilling prophecy. It's not a fair statement, because the activity in question is already illegal and thus more likely to be pursued by those prone to illegal activity. i dont think you have ever seen ppl jump off of there roofs into a blue mat because they were to high to notice it wasnt water. marijuna may not be as bad as alchol or cigs, but to say it causes no negative effects (especially when you smoke ALOT of it every day) is foolish. since ppl wont beleive my words alone ill have to provide some links. http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htmit does harm the body, do not let a fool tell u that it does absolutly nothing to you. now is it enough to make it illegal? well that is where the debate starts. again, i have nothing against it being legal as long as its regulated. that artical is nothing but lies, next
based on what evidence is it lies other than your own biased opinion?
thats why arguments like these are so hard to have. give even one link/evidence/source to marijuana having negative effects on the body andsomeone will automatically call it a lie, yet any aticle proving the opposite is truth. u got to get rid of that bias mentality bro.
here is another link tho that u can call a lie if u wish, ill continue to provide more if u want.
http://teens.drugabuse.gov/facts/facts_mj2.php
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