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On September 04 2012 07:59 EiBmoZ wrote:
i'm for it b/c research overseas is proving without doubt that THC in marijuana cures cancer
an that the american government has known about this for over 30 years an have let millions of people die purely so they get a cut of the money the Pharmaceutical Industry makes selling poison.
ok, NOW you are just being ridiculous.
please, dont you even dare try to turn this into an "AMERICA IS EVIL" debate.
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i also love how you are getting your information from fucking tru tv of all places *rolls eyes*
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On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population.
I dislike arguments like these because they ignore reality. The reality is a lot messier. By your logic we should let everyone do whatever they want. Let docs abuse their patients trust and get them hooked. Let dealers sell drugs to kids. Or a person that was injected by a gang or pimp against their will and is now a junkie. When they buy drugs is it because of their inferior genes? You seem to think every addict has it coming and we shouldn't give a damn.
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On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population.
Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you.
Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society during.
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On September 04 2012 08:04 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:59 EiBmoZ wrote:
i'm for it b/c research overseas is proving without doubt that THC in marijuana cures cancer
an that the american government has known about this for over 30 years an have let millions of people die purely so they get a cut of the money the Pharmaceutical Industry makes selling poison. ok, NOW you are just being ridiculous. please, dont you even dare try to turn this into an "AMERICA IS EVIL" debate. edit: i also love how you are getting your information from fucking tru tv of all places *rolls eyes*
i don't even own a tv
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On September 04 2012 08:06 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you. Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society along the ride.
it should be noted that alchol in moderate ammounts isnt all that bad, especially when u only have a drink on very special/rare occasions. to much of it is when problems start.
but u can say the same thing for mcdonalds. to much mcdonalds will kill u. is it illegal? nope.
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On September 04 2012 08:09 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:06 Grumbels wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you. Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society along the ride. it should be noted that alchol in moderate ammounts isnt all that bad, especially when u only have a drink on very special/rare occasions. to much of it is when problems start. but u can say the same thing for mcdonalds. to much mcdonalds will kill u. is it illegal? nope.
the way you are arguing then you should be against mchonalds
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On September 04 2012 08:09 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:04 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:59 EiBmoZ wrote:
i'm for it b/c research overseas is proving without doubt that THC in marijuana cures cancer
an that the american government has known about this for over 30 years an have let millions of people die purely so they get a cut of the money the Pharmaceutical Industry makes selling poison. ok, NOW you are just being ridiculous. please, dont you even dare try to turn this into an "AMERICA IS EVIL" debate. edit: i also love how you are getting your information from fucking tru tv of all places *rolls eyes* i don't even own a tv
the link u provided earlier was from tru tv bro, which is a ridiculous television network that is hardly factual and is more about entertainment and drawing in viewers based on nonsense.
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On September 04 2012 08:06 Zahir wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. I dislike arguments like these because they ignore reality. The reality is a lot messier. By your logic we should let everyone do whatever they want. Let docs abuse their patients trust and get them hooked. Let dealers sell drugs to kids. Or a person that was injected by a gang or pimp against their will and is now a junkie. When they buy drugs is it because of their inferior genes? You seem to think every addict has it coming and we shouldn't give a damn.
being a drug addict should be treated as an illness not a crime. when ppl finaly realize this then we can start helping ppl instead of locking them away like they are mentally deficient. we should very much give a damn.
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On September 04 2012 08:11 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:09 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Grumbels wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you. Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society along the ride. it should be noted that alchol in moderate ammounts isnt all that bad, especially when u only have a drink on very special/rare occasions. to much of it is when problems start. but u can say the same thing for mcdonalds. to much mcdonalds will kill u. is it illegal? nope. the way you are arguing then you should be against mchonalds
um why? im not against weed nor am i against alchol. do u even know what im arguing? im arguing the fact that its foolish and stupid to beleive that weed has absolutly 0 negative impact on the body.
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On September 04 2012 08:13 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:11 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 08:09 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Grumbels wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you. Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society along the ride. it should be noted that alchol in moderate ammounts isnt all that bad, especially when u only have a drink on very special/rare occasions. to much of it is when problems start. but u can say the same thing for mcdonalds. to much mcdonalds will kill u. is it illegal? nope. the way you are arguing then you should be against mchonalds um why? im not against weed nor am i against alchol. do u even know what im arguing? im arguing the fact that its foolish and stupid to beleive that weed has absolutly 0 negative impact on the body.
then post something that proves it does? how many people die every year from pot? how many people have gotten cancer from smoking only pot?
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if there were any, we'd know about it b/c the US propaganda machine would be sticking those facts in our faces left an right
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its stupid, anyone can get weed. Why not just legalize it and tax it? you make money instead of lose money fighting it. Monkey want monkey get (legal or not legal).
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if those were true i wouldn't be hearing about it from a guy on teamliquid.net would i?
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On September 04 2012 08:15 EiBmoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 08:11 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 08:09 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Grumbels wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. Drugs do victimize. If you have a heroin addiction you will be trapped by it and feed off of everyone that cares about you until you have drained them dry. There is no honor in self destruction, because you are taking others with you. Marijuana doesn't really have this potential though. But alcohol does, heroin does. What good argument is there for letting kids (or anyone) get access to heroin? (outside of medicine) It's essentially prolonged suicide, but it's not quick and you're a danger to society along the ride. it should be noted that alchol in moderate ammounts isnt all that bad, especially when u only have a drink on very special/rare occasions. to much of it is when problems start. but u can say the same thing for mcdonalds. to much mcdonalds will kill u. is it illegal? nope. the way you are arguing then you should be against mchonalds um why? im not against weed nor am i against alchol. do u even know what im arguing? im arguing the fact that its foolish and stupid to beleive that weed has absolutly 0 negative impact on the body. then post something that proves it does? how many people die every year from pot? how many people have gotten cancer from smoking only pot?
-_- really?
im done arguing with you if your going to continue with that extremely biased attitude.. take a look at the links i provided before u talk to me again. it gives u all the info u need to know including additional links.
just to make it easier for u ill repost them including some additional ones.
http://teens.drugabuse.gov/facts/facts_mj2.php
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm
http://www.theantidrug.com/drug-information/marijuana-facts/negative-effects-marijuana.aspx
http://www.drug-and-alcohol-rehab-info.com/addiction/index.php/negative-effects-of-marijuana/
http://www.healthyplace.com/addictions/marijuana-addiction/is-marijuana-harmful-positive-and-negative-effects-of-marijuana-weed/
THIS TIME READ ALL OF IT instead of reading just the title and auto exiting out. they not only give the negative effects but the positive aswell in some of those links.
FYI, i never once said anyone has died from it nor does any of those articles state it.
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On September 04 2012 08:16 EiBmoZ wrote:
if there were any, we'd know about it b/c the US propaganda machine would be sticking those facts in our faces left an right
Honestly, the only reason pot is even illegal is thx to propaganda. During the 60s when it was abolished, Marijuana was primarily being smoked by blacks and hippies, two groups the US establishment felt threatened by. Groups like the FBI were looking for ways to disrupt the counterculture, and produced a fuck ton of propaganda and bullshit "studies" to paint marijuana as some killer gateway psycho drug that will make your kids have premarital sex and kill each other. This was back when such tactics were relatively new and super effective against the highly conservative government and white middle class, who were frightened out of their minds at the anti authoritarian movement that was developing.
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if no ones died from it, then how can it be bad????????? does it make me grow gills or somethign?
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On September 04 2012 08:21 EiBmoZ wrote:
if no ones died from it, then how can it be bad????????? does it make me grow gills or somethign?
dude. do u know how to read? or are u high?
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On September 04 2012 08:19 EiBmoZ wrote:if those were true i wouldn't be hearing about it from a guy on teamliquid.net would i?
Are you joking or just completely incompetent?
Those are sourced from the National Academy of Sciences and the University of New South Wales. Would you care to indicate some peer-reviewed, scientific journals that show evidence contrary to that found in these articles?
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On September 04 2012 08:23 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:21 EiBmoZ wrote:
if no ones died from it, then how can it be bad????????? does it make me grow gills or somethign? dude. do u know how to read? or are u high?
if i was high i'd be playing sc2 right now an i wouldn't have posted on this thread at all today
it doesn't do anything harmful to the body, it's natural you can keep trying to fool yourself all day
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