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This is a tragic event. Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate. Posts from page 9 onward will be moderated for steering the discussion towards gun control.
Sniperdadx
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
July 20 2012 20:34 GMT
#741
Treat him like a pirate. A short drop and a southern stop.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 20 2012 20:35 GMT
#742
this is so sad... crazy people will always exist
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
July 20 2012 20:45 GMT
#743
This is a terrible tragedy. All those broken families and shit...

But man I do feel for the guy who did it as well... How sick is that??
What a shitty life it must be... and guess what; shitstorm ahead dude.

On the other hand, I heard Obama on the radio today saying those crimes would be avenged/wouldnt go unpunished or something like that... the thing is, you cant execute him 15 times for what he did nor can you bring back the dead by doing so... maybe if the guy was sick in his head or something, he wouldve needed psychological help instead of a lethal injection once he clearly showed how insanely fucked up he was...

imho: prevention > retaliation
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 20:47:10
July 20 2012 20:45 GMT
#744
That's just fucking weird. He went to my high school.

I doubt his life was that bad. I was pretty much one of the poorer kids at my school which is saying a lot because almost every single person at my school was loaded (as far as I know).
BW -> League -> CSGO
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 20 2012 20:48 GMT
#745
holy fuck this is scary
can i get my estro logo back pls
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
July 20 2012 20:51 GMT
#746
Horrible thing to happen. This will however help Obama getting the Christians on his side if he shows he is for revenge. And I´m not saying that to be mean or to say that he would have wanted this to happen.

I think it would give more to put him in a mental hospital and use people like this for studies rather than locking them up in a prison or giving them the death sentence.
Set it ablaze!
DocTheMedic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 21:01:24
July 20 2012 20:56 GMT
#747
On July 21 2012 05:45 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
This is a terrible tragedy. All those broken families and shit...

But man I do feel for the guy who did it as well... How sick is that??
What a shitty life it must be... and guess what; shitstorm ahead dude.

On the other hand, I heard Obama on the radio today saying those crimes would be avenged/wouldnt go unpunished or something like that... the thing is, you cant execute him 15 times for what he did nor can you bring back the dead by doing so... maybe if the guy was sick in his head or something, he wouldve needed psychological help instead of a lethal injection once he clearly showed how insanely fucked up he was...

imho: prevention > retaliation


Prevention is important, but now that the crime has already occurred, especially on this magnitude, what is there left? Obama had to comfort those who have lost their loved ones by saying the crime will not go unpunished, the losses of life will not go unavenged. It's likely that the shooters are insane (one person might still be at large), though we still need to wait for a trial to determine guilty or not guilty, but how exactly do you explain that to those whose lives were just turned upside down?

This sort of premeditated crime reminds me of all those stories on reddit where the government spends a lot of time and effort tricking people already inclined to violence to buy fake training and weapons and then get arrested: well this is what happens when one group escapes the net

There's no way these people are ever leaving prison or a mental institution. Good fucking riddance.
Excalibursin-X
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
July 20 2012 21:00 GMT
#748
On July 21 2012 05:34 Sniperdadx wrote:
Treat him like a pirate. A short drop and a southern stop.


I thought Norrington said "Sudden" not "Southern".

This being said, I was leaving the theaters last night when people started packing in for the Dark Knight Rises. I'm kind of a sick fuck too, so I sometimes think about crowds in terms of potential fatalities if such things were to occur. You could hardly even move in the lobby, and I wondered for a second why theaters aren't protected like malls, schools, and airports are.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
July 20 2012 21:01 GMT
#749
On July 21 2012 04:45 Carnagath wrote:
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On July 21 2012 04:39 ownyah wrote:
On July 21 2012 03:58 Carnagath wrote:
On July 21 2012 03:54 zezamer wrote:
On July 21 2012 03:51 Balgrog wrote:
This is absolutely awful. All those who are making judgements, think about this for a second. As far as we know until a few weeks ago this was a very successful person who had a honorable degree and was in med school, then suddenly dropped out and went on a shooting rampage. I am NOT trying to defend his actions but it is pretty apparent that he had some sort of mental break that pushed him into this. I truly hope that no more people die from this, and hopefully people can recover mentally from this.

It's always the nice,smart,polite and quiet kid that truly is lonely and depressed but none can see it


Loneliness and depression have nothing to do with mass murder.


Depression has nothing to do with such an act. Depressed people usually won't hurt anyone and are pretty sympathic, they are mostly only danger to themselves rather than other people. Loneliness though I believe to be a factor in some cases. Also these shotings couldn't have been done without motives by someone not completely inhumane. The person is mental sick simple as that.


Typically the term "lonely" is used for someone who does not want to be alone, but is. Sociopaths and misanthropes both do very much want to be alone. Schizophrenics may or may not, because it is an illness with an amazing variety of possible behavioral outcomes.


Sociopaths do not necessarily want to be alone, they can be anyone from a complete loner to the most popular person around.
There is no cow level
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
July 20 2012 21:02 GMT
#750
On July 21 2012 06:00 Excalibursin-X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 05:34 Sniperdadx wrote:
Treat him like a pirate. A short drop and a southern stop.


I thought Norrington said "Sudden" not "Southern".

This being said, I was leaving the theaters last night when people started packing in for the Dark Knight Rises. I'm kind of a sick fuck too, so I sometimes think about crowds in terms of potential fatalities if such things were to occur. You could hardly even move in the lobby, and I wondered for a second why theaters aren't protected like malls, schools, and airports are.


the theatre i go to has armed security personnel on the grounds at all time.

(i only know because one of the guards is this massive prick who likes to act like he is some Navy seal badass with the hair slicked back and the sunglasses on indoors and trying to impress people n shit)
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
July 20 2012 21:10 GMT
#751
On July 21 2012 05:08 GunPaladin wrote:
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On July 20 2012 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
I can't imagine how this is going to change movie premiers. I am def never ever going to a midnight showing again and probably won't see this movie in theater now. How can theater's even accommodate for a crisis like this? (building exits etc.)

So a random tragedy causes you to take irrational actions? This horror has nothing to do with the movie theater, that's just where it took place. He could've done this at any crowded venue.

uh how many people wanted to fly after 9/11 happened? jesus man.....i don't go out like at all but shit like this happens and i'm glad i don't
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 20 2012 21:13 GMT
#752
--- Nuked ---
gorbonic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States73 Posts
July 20 2012 21:15 GMT
#753
Has anyone seen GOP representative Louie Gohmert's thoughts on the shooting? He sounds like a card-carrying Westboro member, only he has real political power.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 21:18:49
July 20 2012 21:17 GMT
#754
On July 21 2012 06:10 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 05:08 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 20 2012 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
I can't imagine how this is going to change movie premiers. I am def never ever going to a midnight showing again and probably won't see this movie in theater now. How can theater's even accommodate for a crisis like this? (building exits etc.)

So a random tragedy causes you to take irrational actions? This horror has nothing to do with the movie theater, that's just where it took place. He could've done this at any crowded venue.

uh how many people wanted to fly after 9/11 happened? jesus man.....i don't go out like at all but shit like this happens and i'm glad i don't

He's right, people such as yourself succumb to what we could call "innumeracy." They cannot put the relative risk of things in perspective, they have an emotional reaction instead of a rational look at probability. When an event like this occurs in one place in one year it gets reported nation wide for days, and so people fear it. They don't report the hundreds or thousands of people who die in car accidents every year and so people don't fear it. The odds of something like this happening to you are so miniscule that the possibility should not even enter your mind when you go out, and it certainly does not justify avoiding a place or activity.


On July 21 2012 06:13 zeru wrote:
Hope the shooter gets the rehabilitation and mental help he needs :/

Personally, I don't care much what happens to the shooter, because protecting anyone from his actions again is far, far more important.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
July 20 2012 21:20 GMT
#755
On July 21 2012 06:13 zeru wrote:
Hope the shooter gets the rehabilitation and mental help he needs :/

I hope he gets thrown in jail where the real criminals are and will treat him like he should be treated.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 20 2012 21:26 GMT
#756
Another one..... oh man. RIP.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
July 20 2012 21:29 GMT
#757
This is absolutely terrible for everyone involved. Just thinking about it frightens me - going out with your friends to have a good time, waiting in line and then finally getting to see a movie you've been highly anticipating, and then suddenly getting shot at with no avenue of escape. Such a tragedy.

The fact that this shooter actually picked out a particular event that was already sort of on the news (I think it's safe to say that TDKR was one of the more anticipated movies of the year, regardless of its merits) adds all the more infamy to it. I can see all kinds of sick jokes being made about this in the future, but this is definitely not the time for such ugly humour.

Also, I don't mean to belittle the serious tragedy that occurred here, but as a Nolan fanboy and movie fan in general, I do wonder if this will affect TDKR's box office results and movie attendance overall for the next few months. There might be a similar effect to the post 9/11 situation with air flights - my school Washington DC trip in 2003 was cancelled because of an event that occurred two years earlier, for example. Clearly, the most serious ramifications of this tragedy are first and foremost the victims and their families, and second, the issue of guns and gun control. Farther on down the list, though, it's curious to wonder what effects this tragedy will have on the movie industry.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 21:33:31
July 20 2012 21:31 GMT
#758
~edited out i dont wanna argue about capitol punishment with so many radical liberals, and anti-americans~ (yeah our shit is so screwed up.. dont live here)



User was warned for this post
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 20 2012 21:32 GMT
#759
Has anyone seen the weapons he actualy used? jesus christ i can maybe just maybe understand being able to buy a handgun legally (for self defense), but a shotgun and a M16 like automatic rifle? You only use those kind of weapons for one thing.

Dont understand why america allows people to buy those kind of weapons legally.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
July 20 2012 21:35 GMT
#760
On July 21 2012 06:31 MaestroSC wrote:
~edited out i dont wanna argue about capitol punishment with so many radical liberals, and anti-americans~ (yeah our shit is so screwed up.. dont live here)



haha I caught your first post and that one would have incited less flames than your edit.
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