EPTShooting in Aurora, Colorado - Page 39
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This is a tragic event. Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate. Posts from page 9 onward will be moderated for steering the discussion towards gun control. | ||
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Br33zyy
United States296 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:32 Reaps wrote: Has anyone seen the weapons he actualy used? jesus christ i can maybe just maybe understand being able to buy a handgun legally (for self defense), but a shotgun and a M16 like automatic rifle? You only use those kind of weapons for one thing. Dont understand why america allows people to buy those kind of weapons legally. Hunting? I'm particularly confused since you're from the UK - you guys practically invented skeet shooting. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:32 Reaps wrote: Has anyone seen the weapons he actualy used? jesus christ i can maybe just maybe understand being able to buy a handgun legally (for self defense), but a shotgun and a M16 like automatic rifle? You only use those kind of weapons for one thing. Dont understand why america allows people to buy those kind of weapons legally. It's an ar15 which is semiauto. No more deadly than a mini14 which doesn't look military style. That you can buy anywheres in north America. They are hunting weapons and are not fully auto. Just because it looks like a military weapon people get their feathers all ruffled. Secondy handguns are much more deadly due to ease of concealment. | ||
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smokeyhoodoo
United States1021 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:10 Silidons wrote: uh how many people wanted to fly after 9/11 happened? jesus man.....i don't go out like at all but shit like this happens and i'm glad i don't That is tragic. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:42 iGrok wrote: Hunting? I'm particularly confused since you're from the UK - you guys practically invented skeet shooting. edit | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:44 Reaps wrote: What? you need those kind of powerful weps to kill deers? We dont allow those kind of weapons in the UK even for hunting so im not sure what you're confused about | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:32 Reaps wrote: Has anyone seen the weapons he actualy used? jesus christ i can maybe just maybe understand being able to buy a handgun legally (for self defense), but a shotgun and a M16 like automatic rifle? You only use those kind of weapons for one thing. Dont understand why america allows people to buy those kind of weapons legally. You don't understand because your premises/assumptions are false. This thread is not the place to delve into it though. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
Yes, there are laws against using low powered rifles on large game due to suffering caused. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:46 FallDownMarigold wrote: You don't understand because your premises/assumptions are false. This thread is not the place to delve into it though. Whats to understand? Are you trying to justify being able to buy those kind of weapons? You can pm me if you dont want to talk about it here though. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
A) It isn't a military M16. It's a civilain AR-15. B) The AR-15 is not functionally different than any other semi-automatic rifle. Semi-automatic is only different from bolt-action in that it reloads for you, you still have to pull the trigger again to fire again. C) As noted above, large rifles are preferred and sometimes mandated for hunting to prevent animal suffering D) Shotguns have been used in skeetshooting for a century - it's an olympic sport | ||
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Br33zyy
United States296 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:47 Doodsmack wrote: Pretty shameful how the media handles stories like these. They go bonkers over anything that will sell well, no matter whether it serves the public interest or not. We do not, I repeat DO NOT need to hear the fucking 911 calls. I would honestly not have any problem with stories like this not even making the national news. All the guy probably wanted was to make the news. It serves no one to give it so much attention in the media. I would actually be ashamed of myself and my profession if I was a journalist today. I agree.. it's disgusting. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:47 Doodsmack wrote: Pretty shameful how the media handles stories like these. They go bonkers over anything that will sell well, no matter whether it serves the public interest or not. We do not, I repeat DO NOT need to hear the fucking 911 calls. I would honestly not have any problem with stories like this not even making the national news. All the guy probably wanted was to make the news. It serves no one to give it so much attention in the media. I would actually be ashamed of myself and my profession if I was a journalist today. As I think I've said earlier, Channel 9 has been doing a pretty good job. I've noticed that local news almost always handles major stories better than major news outlets. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:51 iGrok wrote: A) It isn't a military M16. It's a civilain AR-15. B) The AR-15 is not functionally different than any other semi-automatic rifle. Semi-automatic is only different from bolt-action in that it reloads for you, you still have to pull the trigger again to fire again. C) As noted above, large rifles are preferred and sometimes mandated for hunting to prevent animal suffering D) Shotguns have been used in skeetshooting for a century - it's an olympic sport Yeah but still why would you need an semi automatic rifle for hunting? Those things are killing machines. Imagine if it was a bolt action gun, would he have been able to kill/injure as many people as he did? probaly not. But yeah this will just turn into a never ending arguement and probaly not the best place to talk about it here. Just angry that fuckers him are able to kill so many innocent people. User was warned for this post | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
Not the right time and place. | ||
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:59 Manimal_pro wrote: this kind of shooting is something that happens every year in america. my thoughts go to the family of the victims and of the attacker You mean its "broadcasted" more in America.. I didn't see anyone going over to the Norwaymassacre saying "Well... pesky Swedish allowing that to happen" or insinuating that in some way is Americas fault bad people exist. 360+million people, bad shit happens. EDIT: Hell ... I'm usually one to condone America for its shit actions, and bash its foreign policy, but this instance you are really out of line. | ||
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Domus
510 Posts
On July 21 2012 06:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote: "Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate" ... Here we are, page 39 and you have "UK WOULDNT HAVE THOSE GUNS" -.- Not the right time and place. For me, this is a really odd thing to say. If there is anything constructive that can come from a tragedy, then it is learning how to prevent it in the future. If gun control is one of those things that can help to prevent something like this from happening on this scale, then it needs to be discussed. I think that gun control is one of the things that should be discussed. But I think what is also important, is determining what is wrong with this person psychologically and if there are enough systems in place to detect and take care of people who are mentally unstable. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:09 Domus wrote: For me, this is a really odd thing to say. If there is anything constructive that can come from a tragedy, then it is learning how to prevent it in the future. If gun control is one of those things that can help to prevent something like this from happening on this scale, then it needs to be discussed. I think that gun control is one of the things that should be discussed. But I think what is also important, is determining what is wrong with this person psychologically and if there are enough systems in place to detect and take care of people who are mentally unstable. You own TL forums? I didn't know, maybe you should ask your moderators to remove the big headline saying "don't derail into gun control debate" | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:08 NeMeSiS3 wrote: You mean its "broadcasted" more in America.. I didn't see anyone going over to the Swedish massacre saying "Well... pesky Swedish allowing that to happen" or insinuating that in some way is Americas fault bad people exist. 360+million people, bad shit happens. EDIT: Hell ... I'm usually one to condone America for its shit actions, and bash its foreign policy, but this instance you are really out of line. Swedish massacre? What Swedish massacre? | ||
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