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This is a tragic event. Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate. Posts from page 9 onward will be moderated for steering the discussion towards gun control.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:13:57
July 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#781
On July 21 2012 07:11 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:08 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:59 Manimal_pro wrote:
this kind of shooting is something that happens every year in america. my thoughts go to the family of the victims and of the attacker


You mean its "broadcasted" more in America.. I didn't see anyone going over to the Swedish massacre saying "Well... pesky Swedish allowing that to happen" or insinuating that in some way is Americas fault bad people exist. 360+million people, bad shit happens.

EDIT: Hell ... I'm usually one to condone America for its shit actions, and bash its foreign policy, but this instance you are really out of line.


Swedish massacre? What Swedish massacre?


NORWAY fuck
my bad

My apologies, usually don't make mistakes like that T.T
FoTG fighting!
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#782
My bad, honestly didnt see the the mod post at top of page. Wouldnt of posted otherwise.

Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
July 20 2012 22:23 GMT
#783
On July 21 2012 07:11 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:09 Domus wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
"Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate" ... Here we are, page 39 and you have "UK WOULDNT HAVE THOSE GUNS" -.-

Not the right time and place.


For me, this is a really odd thing to say. If there is anything constructive that can come from a tragedy, then it is learning how to prevent it in the future. If gun control is one of those things that can help to prevent something like this from happening on this scale, then it needs to be discussed.

I think that gun control is one of the things that should be discussed. But I think what is also important, is determining what is wrong with this person psychologically and if there are enough systems in place to detect and take care of people who are mentally unstable.


You own TL forums? I didn't know, maybe you should ask your moderators to remove the big headline saying "don't derail into gun control debate"


Relax...I am not going to start a discussion about it or go against the mods, I can understand the mod decision to not allow such a discussion because it will just derail in anti-America talk. All I am saying is that it is good to learn from a tragedy to prevent it in the future. It is the same with aircraft crashes, oil spills, buiding collapses, fires. So why not learn what things to fix from a shooting?
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
July 20 2012 22:23 GMT
#784
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..
tGFuRy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
July 20 2012 22:24 GMT
#785
Yeah, this is pretty fucked up. It really pisses me off that people go and do this kind of shit. They think they can get away with it. All they do after they kill a bunch of people is kill themselves. I really hope this guy gets whats coming to him. Don't let him kill himself in prison please.
Always a Gamer
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 20 2012 22:26 GMT
#786
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 20 2012 22:26 GMT
#787
On July 21 2012 07:23 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:11 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:09 Domus wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
"Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate" ... Here we are, page 39 and you have "UK WOULDNT HAVE THOSE GUNS" -.-

Not the right time and place.


For me, this is a really odd thing to say. If there is anything constructive that can come from a tragedy, then it is learning how to prevent it in the future. If gun control is one of those things that can help to prevent something like this from happening on this scale, then it needs to be discussed.

I think that gun control is one of the things that should be discussed. But I think what is also important, is determining what is wrong with this person psychologically and if there are enough systems in place to detect and take care of people who are mentally unstable.


You own TL forums? I didn't know, maybe you should ask your moderators to remove the big headline saying "don't derail into gun control debate"


Relax...I am not going to start a discussion about it or go against the mods, I can understand the mod decision to not allow such a discussion because it will just derail in anti-America talk. All I am saying is that it is good to learn from a tragedy to prevent it in the future. It is the same with aircraft crashes, oil spills, buiding collapses, fires. So why not learn what things to fix from a shooting?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472
There is a thread that sprang off this about gun control. Use that.

]]
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
July 20 2012 22:29 GMT
#788
On July 21 2012 07:26 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:23 Domus wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:11 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:09 Domus wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
"Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate" ... Here we are, page 39 and you have "UK WOULDNT HAVE THOSE GUNS" -.-

Not the right time and place.


For me, this is a really odd thing to say. If there is anything constructive that can come from a tragedy, then it is learning how to prevent it in the future. If gun control is one of those things that can help to prevent something like this from happening on this scale, then it needs to be discussed.

I think that gun control is one of the things that should be discussed. But I think what is also important, is determining what is wrong with this person psychologically and if there are enough systems in place to detect and take care of people who are mentally unstable.


You own TL forums? I didn't know, maybe you should ask your moderators to remove the big headline saying "don't derail into gun control debate"


Relax...I am not going to start a discussion about it or go against the mods, I can understand the mod decision to not allow such a discussion because it will just derail in anti-America talk. All I am saying is that it is good to learn from a tragedy to prevent it in the future. It is the same with aircraft crashes, oil spills, buiding collapses, fires. So why not learn what things to fix from a shooting?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472
There is a thread that sprang off this about gun control. Use that.

]]


Thank you
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:33:44
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#789
On July 21 2012 07:26 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.


It has actualy been confirmed that he had his hair dyed red or orange and called himself the joker to the police. Will try get the source.

iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:36:20
July 20 2012 22:32 GMT
#790
On July 21 2012 07:30 Reaps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:26 iGrok wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.


It has actualy been confirmed that he had his hair dyed red or orange and called himself the joker to the police. Will try get the source.

Wrong, the source was the NYC Police Comissioner, and has been refuted by the Aurora Police Chief. So unless the Colorado police have worse info than the guy in NYC, he didn't.

As I have said multiple times already.

[EDIT] NBC/ABC/FOX will post anything. Stick with the local channels who are directly talking to those involved.
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EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#791
W00t! American gun laws yeah.

This guy was definately a upper tier organized criminal who would have had a gun anyway even if America had strong gun control right?

oh, wait, no, he was just a maniac and 20 people woulda been alive today if America had Europe's gun laws.

User was temp banned for this post.
I'm embarrased by my past actions and even more ashamed of my present thoughts and future endeavors to clear my name.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#792
On July 21 2012 07:32 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:30 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:26 iGrok wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.


It has actualy been confirmed that he had his hair dyed red or orange and called himself the joker to the police. Will try get the source.

Wrong, the source was the NYC Police Comissioner, and has been refuted by the Aurora Police Chief. So unless the Colorado police have worse info than the guy in NYC, he didn't.

As I have said multiple times already.

[EDIT] NBC/ABC/FOX will post anything. Stick with the local channels who are directly talking to those involved.


I don't see how the NYC police commissioner would have any knowledge in the issue. It is out of his jurisdiction. I see it as a joke in bad taste.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
July 20 2012 22:38 GMT
#793
On July 21 2012 07:35 EnE wrote:
W00t! American gun laws yeah.

This guy was definately a upper tier organized criminal who would have had a gun anyway even if America had strong gun control right?

oh, wait, no, he was just a maniac and 20 people woulda been alive today if America had Europe's gun laws.

Did you just happen to miss the big white banner at the top of the thread?
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#794
On July 21 2012 07:32 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:30 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:26 iGrok wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.


It has actualy been confirmed that he had his hair dyed red or orange and called himself the joker to the police. Will try get the source.

Wrong, the source was the NYC Police Comissioner, and has been refuted by the Aurora Police Chief. So unless the Colorado police have worse info than the guy in NYC, he didn't.

As I have said multiple times already.

[EDIT] NBC/ABC/FOX will post anything. Stick with the local channels who are directly talking to those involved.



Ah ok, just read that the Colorado police "would not confirm it" so its maybe still possible they will in future. Will see i geuss.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 22:45:15
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#795
Sick killers will kill regardless of what tools are available to them. It's a fact so give it a rest already. There are a lot of things with the potential to harm large numbers of people. Outlawing firearm arms would be about as effective as outlawing drugs in terms of removing them from the country.


User was warned for this post
dude bro.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 20 2012 22:43 GMT
#796
On July 21 2012 07:40 Reaps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:32 iGrok wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 Reaps wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:26 iGrok wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:23 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Not sure if this has been commented on yet, haven't read this entire thread--- but apparently he referred to himself as "The Joker" to police..

There is an unconfirmed report of that he mentioned the Joker while talking to the police. The rumor that he dressed up as the joker is false.


It has actualy been confirmed that he had his hair dyed red or orange and called himself the joker to the police. Will try get the source.

Wrong, the source was the NYC Police Comissioner, and has been refuted by the Aurora Police Chief. So unless the Colorado police have worse info than the guy in NYC, he didn't.

As I have said multiple times already.

[EDIT] NBC/ABC/FOX will post anything. Stick with the local channels who are directly talking to those involved.



Ah ok, just read that the Colorado police "would not confirm it" so its maybe still possible they will in future. Will see i geuss.

They said there was "no basis to the that statement". So I guess its not 100% that the rumor is false, but pretty close.

Could be they just wanted to stop all the speculation that would happen if that were the case, but more likely is that the NYC guy heard a sensationalist rumor and spread it since he is known to do that for attention.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 23:23:31
July 20 2012 23:23 GMT
#797
He has an adult friend finder account and it predates today. Tells us he's been planning this:
NSFW!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Federal law enforcement reports that the suspect had dyed his hair red and claimed he was the Joker. (from 9News webcast)

He also used an alarm to trigger a noise complaint at his apartment so someone would trigger the bombs.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 23:25:44
July 20 2012 23:24 GMT
#798
Alright, well I guess the dyed hair is confirmed. Odd that the Aurora chief said there was no basis behind that.
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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 20 2012 23:34 GMT
#799
On July 21 2012 08:23 BisuDagger wrote:
He has an adult friend finder account and it predates today. Tells us he's been planning this:
NSFW!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Federal law enforcement reports that the suspect had dyed his hair red and claimed he was the Joker. (from 9News webcast)

He also used an alarm to trigger a noise complaint at his apartment so someone would trigger the bombs.


Certain it's genuine?
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
July 20 2012 23:54 GMT
#800
On July 21 2012 06:20 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 06:13 zeru wrote:
Hope the shooter gets the rehabilitation and mental help he needs :/

I hope he gets thrown in jail where the real criminals are and will treat him like he should be treated.

Well if what a few people have said colorado has the death penalty. So they should just waterboard the bastard then execute him as he deserves to be tortured for what he did. Just sickening. Hope the lunatic dies a slow and painful death.
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