EPTMakes the bastard even worse. Kids and servicemen. Servicemen come home so they can live happy lives free of this sort of terror.
Shooting in Aurora, Colorado - Page 30
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
Makes the bastard even worse. Kids and servicemen. Servicemen come home so they can live happy lives free of this sort of terror. | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:40 BisuDagger wrote: 4 members of US military, 2 Air Force reservists, 2 Navy service members, wounded, hospitalized in Colorado shootings Makes the bastard even worse. Kids and servicemen. Servicemen come home so they can live happy lives free of this sort of terror. I'm a service member and I have to say this doesn't make the killing "even worse." People are people. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:40 BisuDagger wrote: 4 members of US military, 2 Air Force reservists, 2 Navy service members, wounded, hospitalized in Colorado shootings Makes the bastard even worse. Kids and servicemen. Servicemen come home so they can live happy lives free of this sort of terror. I wouldn't argue that regular citizen are lesser humans in comparison to children and servicemen. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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RetroAspect
Belgium219 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:07 Lumi wrote: Okay, so, even more wow. Here's an update to my post on the last page. I just talked to my friend who was there via phone, and, as it turns out, he was actually in that theater with his family originally. They asked another family to move over or something, but then decided they should just go to the theater next door where there was more space. He said his mind is just stuck on a few things. A) That other family. B) His dad carries a gun in a shoulder holster and there probably would have been a gun f ight if they had been there still. He's just lost between feeling lucky, freaked out, bad for the other family and thinking maybe they could have done something (his dad) if they had stayed there. But all things considered he seems to be doing pretty good. Talk about crazy. Carrying a gun into a movie theater? and it's allowed? I don't even... Im speechless.. This whole thing is insane.. Poor people and their families | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
I know it's wishful thinking, but that doesn't stop me from doing wishing it. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:46 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Anytime somebody does something terrible like this I sort of wish we, as a society, would agree or do our best to wipe their name from history like the ancient Greeks tried with Herostratus (who burned down the Temple of Artemis). While I don't think it would be successful, I think removing the somewhat glorifying news cycle of shit like this might be for the better. I know it's wishful thinking, but that doesn't stop me from doing wishing it. i just read 1984...i don't think that'd be a good idea | ||
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Cylluus
United States153 Posts
This is the actual police radio recording during the incident. I think the word "harrowing" in the article describes it perfectly. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 20 2012 21:32 sc4k wrote: How can you be for executing someone whilst arresting them but not when they have been arrested? Fwiw I am pro-death penalty for mass murderers. Also, I hope they don't give him a platform like with this Breivik farce, which has allowed multiple days for him to preach to similarly unhinged people when it should have been dealt with away from the public. I'm against the death penalty because I don't think our criminal justice system can be infallible, and therefore I don't want any court to ever hand out death sentences. I have absolutely NO moral qualms about executing the guilty. My only problem is with the risk of executing the innocent. That said, if some spree killer gets shot by cops during his apprehension, I'm gonna toast whoever pulled the trigger. Obviously this asshole will get the death penalty, but that won't prevent a Breivik-style media circus for years and years. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:42 jdseemoreglass wrote: I'm a service member and I have to say this doesn't make the killing "even worse." People are people. Not saying it's worse to kill certain people. It's just bad that people who already had to fight still fell victim to gun fire. Just meant it makes me feel even worse about the situation. Just having so many servicemen so close to me. Purely my opinion. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:36 Dodgin wrote: If you police had killed him they would have been just as bad as he is? what am I reading? In cold blood - yes. If there had been necessity to defend themselves that would be understandable. But to say that you wish the police had just killed this guy when they found him is about one of the most horrible things I think you can come up with. Think about the families and loved ones of the victims - not about revenge. Haven't enough people died already? How will yet another death solve anything? No one wants there to be any more blood spilled. Batman doesn't kill the Joker. Theoden doesn't kill Grima. Hell, even Cary Elwes doesn't kill Prince John. A hero is not forged through rash decisions based on revenge, but by logical decisions made at awkward times in the face of extreme adversity. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:47 Whole wrote: i just read 1984...i don't think that'd be a good idea So you think massive news coverage given to mass murderers by exposing their face, plans, reasoning, and ideas to the entire world on a news cycle that lasts for weeks is a good thing? It only begets more of the same from disgusting and depraved individuals. | ||
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
On July 20 2012 18:19 devoteeHK wrote: Stuff like this makes me so angry, eerily reminiscent of what happened in Norway almost one year ago (July 22). If anyone is directly affected, my thoughts are with you. Yeah tragic. Thoughts with all the families. I always wonder what drives people to do something like this. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:50 Arghmyliver wrote: In cold blood - yes. If there had been necessity to defend themselves that would be understandable. But to say that you wish the police had just killed this guy when they found him is about one of the most horrible things I think you can come up with. Think about the families and loved ones of the victims - not about revenge. Haven't enough people died already? How will yet another death solve anything? No one wants there to be any more blood spilled. Batman doesn't kill the Joker. Theoden doesn't kill Grima. Hell, even Cary Elwes doesn't kill Prince John. A hero is not forged through rash decisions based on revenge, but by logical decisions made at awkward times in the face of extreme adversity. In my opinion as soon as you take another life without justification your own life is forfeit, that's fine if you disagree. | ||
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captainshards
39 Posts
Seriously. Be careful everybody, not everything is what it seems. Protect your mind, dont believe what you are told, and dont get caught up arguing the minute details of a much larger and more ugly problem. Why do these people have no other place to be than troubled to the point of committing these types of crimes? What is missing from their lives that THIS was the only choice they had left? Who stands to gain from tragic events such as these? Why are these types of events the most horrific things for the victims and families, yet the entire entertainment and news industry benefit from them? To the people watching from home, safe on their couch and safe at their computer desk, this is just another show. I do not feel the human race has the answer for how to stop this cycle. I dont think it ever will. But i ask myself who are these people for whom there is nothing to look forward to, nothing to ease the pain, nothing to anchor them, nothing to grasp onto that would change their heart. And more importantly who stands to benefit from a society that more and more each day is forced to believe that death is around any corner, at any time. Strange days indeed. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:51 I_Love_Bacon wrote: So you think massive news coverage given to mass murderers by exposing their face, plans, reasoning, and ideas to the entire world on a news cycle that lasts for weeks is a good thing? It only begets more of the same from disgusting and depraved individuals. People are watching the news, people are following the story, people are posting in this thread. The people want to know and discuss these things, there is nothing wrong with providing it. I don't think it's horrible to talk about it. The people who do this do it because they have psychological issues not because they saw something on television. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:35 Arghmyliver wrote: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Careful my friend. This is why others are in charge of their sentencing. Sure you could blow out their kneecaps and make them crawl around on all fours across the Salt Flats, but what would that do to your soul? If I knew 100% that he was guilty, me and my soul would be knocking back a scotch with one hand as my other hand would swing a cat-o-nine-tails to make him hobble on his broken knees faster. Revenge fantasies aside, I wish they'd lock him the fuck up, throw away the key, and never talk about him again. Let psychiatrists and geneticists study him so that we can one day engineer this kind of sickness out of our species. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:45 RetroAspect wrote: Carrying a gun into a movie theater? and it's allowed? I don't even... Im speechless.. This whole thing is insane.. Poor people and their families Unless the movie theater, being a private place, has an explicit policy prohibiting any firearms from being brought into the theater, it's legal to do so provided the firearm owner has a concealed carry permit. It could also depend on state policy. In some states, for example, you can't concealed carry anywhere that requires paying for admission. In all states you can't concealed carry on premises where alcohol is served. There are probably lots of other rules that could vary from state to state. In my personal opinion, you shouldn't concealed carry in movie theaters due to the close proximity of so many other people. Freak accidents happen. However, I'm not sure whether or not it's expressly prohibited at that, or all movie theaters. Probably isn't allowed if I had to guess. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:40 BisuDagger wrote: 4 members of US military, 2 Air Force reservists, 2 Navy service members, wounded, hospitalized in Colorado shootings Makes the bastard even worse. Kids and servicemen. Servicemen come home so they can live happy lives free of this sort of terror. I wouldn't say it makes him worse, i'd say that members of the military are maybe more likely to stay behind and try to help people out and thus risk higher chance of being hospitalized in events like this. But that's romanticism of the military, as i have no idea what happened when they were wounded just a nice thought in an otherwise sad story. | ||
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