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This is a tragic event. Let's not derail the thread with a gun control debate. Posts from page 9 onward will be moderated for steering the discussion towards gun control.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#561
On July 21 2012 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:
This in my opinion is the saddest tweet from a person who is currently missing:
Show nested quote +

alex sullivan ‏@sully_2003

#TheDarkKnightRises @Reel_Nerds oh man one hour till the movie and its going to be the best BIRTHDAY ever



wow, that really is the saddest tweet
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
July 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#562
On July 21 2012 02:27 Lumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:
This in my opinion is the saddest tweet from a person who is currently missing:

alex sullivan ‏@sully_2003

#TheDarkKnightRises @Reel_Nerds oh man one hour till the movie and its going to be the best BIRTHDAY ever



wow, that really is the saddest tweet


Yep...
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#563
On July 20 2012 23:19 BroOd wrote:
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On July 20 2012 23:10 Probe1 wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Plexa wrote:
Some information about Jessica Ghawi - one of the people killed in the incident
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/07/aurora_theater_shooting_dark_knight_rises_batman.php
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[image loading]

Bit gratuitous to post her final tweets, possibly her final words to someone she was close to, don't you think?
I guess it puts a face on the inhumanity of the event.. It just seems.. invasive.

I mean, it's not a diary, it's a twitter account. She has 3.5k followers, and the person in that convo with her posted about her this morning and was re-tweeted hundreds of times. She puts a human face on the situation when right now all we have are vague, frustrating details.

Yeah, I thought about my post on the way to the store and you're right, I pretty much agree. It still leaves me feeling a bit bitter. Probably just misplaced anger over the futility of the massacre.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 17:30:19
July 20 2012 17:28 GMT
#564
On July 21 2012 02:21 TriO wrote:
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On July 21 2012 01:13 mbr2321 wrote:
On July 21 2012 01:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
There a reason we are not calling this Domestic Terrorism?


The way terrorism was defined in school is an act of violence for a socio-political cause. It isn't truly terrorism yet because we don't know why he did it. If it turns out that this maniac shot up a theatre because 'Obamacare is ruining the country,' or something, then it would be terrorism.

Of course, I learned that definition when I was 14, so it could be inaccurate.


Domestic Terrorism - terrorism practiced in your own country against your own people; "the 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City was an instance of domestic terrorism"

Under current United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

This guy had bombs/etc I would consider this Domestic Terrorism.


If the patriot act had ONLY mentioned political motivation while defining domestic terrorism, that seems like it would put a huge burden of proof on anyone who acts under that authority. Lawsuits claiming "I wasn't politically motivated, you had no right to wiretap me" etc... I'm not a legal professional, just my own opinion. Despite what that law says, I think political motivation is the commonly accepted 'threshold' between mass murderer and terrorist.

That being said, I don't find 'mass murderer' to be any less of a crime than 'domestic terrorist'.
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
July 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#565
Seeing what happened today after going to the midnight release myself last night gives me the chills. Poor people :/ So unexpected
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
July 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#566
On July 21 2012 01:22 BisuDagger wrote:
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On July 21 2012 01:04 LittLeD wrote:
Picture of suspect:
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[image loading]

That smile just makes it horrific.


Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but when I read that, I thought the following:

Every smile looks evil if you know what's behind it.
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Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
July 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#567
On July 21 2012 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:
This in my opinion is the saddest tweet from a person who is currently missing:
Show nested quote +

alex sullivan ‏@sully_2003

#TheDarkKnightRises @Reel_Nerds oh man one hour till the movie and its going to be the best BIRTHDAY ever



Tears to eyes.

This is heartbreaking :[
dense12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States40 Posts
July 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#568
Do we know how the police detained him yet? Did he give himself up or tried to run off? I haven't heard or read anything about it yet.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
July 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#569
On July 21 2012 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:
This in my opinion is the saddest tweet from a person who is currently missing:
Show nested quote +

alex sullivan ‏@sully_2003

#TheDarkKnightRises @Reel_Nerds oh man one hour till the movie and its going to be the best BIRTHDAY ever


I really hope this person is ok.
MasaDaKing
Profile Joined December 2011
17 Posts
July 20 2012 17:32 GMT
#570
On July 20 2012 18:29 Looms wrote:
"One of the attackers shot a baby at point blank range," he said.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ???!!??!?!?

this better not be true


Thats so fucked up. This whole thing is. What kind of an human being CAN do this kind of shit? Humans like this should not deserve to get death penalty. This may be a bit radical but they should just be kept alive to suffer. Say, keep them alive but make their life a living hell, not just in jail but some other way. Fucking break their knees and make them walk for the rest of their lives. This makes me so angry.
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
July 20 2012 17:32 GMT
#571
ABC World News tweets:

Just In: The suspected gunman in the Colorado shooting told authorities he was the joker, according to one police official.
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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
July 20 2012 17:32 GMT
#572
On July 20 2012 18:16 lost_artz wrote:
Did they at least kill the bastard?

--

Post below answered question.

Should have shot them both dead.


No. How are you then any different from the guy who burst into the theatre and shot a bunch of people, dead? They'll almost definitely get life. That should be more than enough. A 24 year old has about 75 long years of suffering ahead of him in Max. Sec.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
July 20 2012 17:33 GMT
#573
On July 21 2012 02:31 dense12 wrote:
Do we know how the police detained him yet? Did he give himself up or tried to run off? I haven't heard or read anything about it yet.


There were early (vague) reports of a second shooter, but that was soon dismissed. The (supposedly) lone shooter is in custody, he was standing by his car in the theater parking lot iirc. He pointed the police toward his booby-trapped apartment.
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
July 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#574
On July 21 2012 02:32 MasaDaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 18:29 Looms wrote:
"One of the attackers shot a baby at point blank range," he said.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ???!!??!?!?

this better not be true


Thats so fucked up. This whole thing is. What kind of an human being CAN do this kind of shit? Humans like this should not deserve to get death penalty. This may be a bit radical but they should just be kept alive to suffer. Say, keep them alive but make their life a living hell, not just in jail but some other way. Fucking break their knees and make them walk for the rest of their lives. This makes me so angry.


Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Careful my friend. This is why others are in charge of their sentencing. Sure you could blow out their kneecaps and make them crawl around on all fours across the Salt Flats, but what would that do to your soul?
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45378 Posts
July 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#575
On July 21 2012 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:
This in my opinion is the saddest tweet from a person who is currently missing:
Show nested quote +

alex sullivan ‏@sully_2003

#TheDarkKnightRises @Reel_Nerds oh man one hour till the movie and its going to be the best BIRTHDAY ever



Oh my god. Absolutely gut-wrenching.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 20 2012 17:36 GMT
#576
On July 21 2012 02:32 Arghmyliver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 18:16 lost_artz wrote:
Did they at least kill the bastard?

--

Post below answered question.

Should have shot them both dead.


No. How are you then any different from the guy who burst into the theatre and shot a bunch of people, dead? They'll almost definitely get life. That should be more than enough. A 24 year old has about 75 long years of suffering ahead of him in Max. Sec.


If you police had killed him they would have been just as bad as he is? what am I reading?
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
July 20 2012 17:38 GMT
#577
Colorado has the death penalty
aka Sowelulol
Kull of Atlantis
Profile Joined June 2012
Turkey98 Posts
July 20 2012 17:38 GMT
#578
On July 21 2012 01:27 SayGen wrote:
Please don't think me unsympathetic, but not sure why people are so upset about 10 people dying at the movie theater when 100+ people EVERY DAY in car crashes. What about the daily deaths for disease, famine, or war, etc.

Not sure why Americans focus so hard on one 'random' kidnapping case every month when literally thousands are being abducted.

Again not trying to being unsympathetic(My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those affected) to the events that took place last night/this early morning. I just wish Americans would be more aware of the big picture. I'll refer now to a quote that Stalin was given credit for even though he didn't actually make it. 'The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.'


I am thinking in a similar way but not harsh as yours.

I said it on previous pages, this is like a regular day in middle-east, suicide bombs, cross-fire etc... And the death numbers are a lot higher.

But again, the attention and pain is naturally more if it's closer to you.

So to summarize, it is very sad that bigger mass killings don't get enough attention and coverage around the world. But as a person, who witnessed and was very close to a suicide/car bombing (HSBC Bank in Istanbul) I really understand these people and how it feels when it's happening in your town.
King Kull must die!
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
July 20 2012 17:39 GMT
#579
On July 21 2012 02:32 Arghmyliver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 18:16 lost_artz wrote:
Did they at least kill the bastard?

--

Post below answered question.

Should have shot them both dead.


No. How are you then any different from the guy who burst into the theatre and shot a bunch of people, dead? They'll almost definitely get life. That should be more than enough. A 24 year old has about 75 long years of suffering ahead of him in Max. Sec.


Well that's a dumb argument. He's different from this guy because he is condemning one twisted individual guilty of mass murder to die, not dozens of innocent moviegoers to die.

I'd really rather not pay for this guy to spend 75 years in maximum security prison, unless the entire stint was done in solitary confinement with just enough food/drink to keep him alive. It is times like these that I wish there were more severe punishments than the death penalty...like continuous torture until death. Thankfully more compassionate people than me are in charge of these things and torture is illegal in the U.S., but still. Death will be a merciful end to this man.
MasaDaKing
Profile Joined December 2011
17 Posts
July 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#580
On July 21 2012 02:35 Arghmyliver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 02:32 MasaDaKing wrote:
On July 20 2012 18:29 Looms wrote:
"One of the attackers shot a baby at point blank range," he said.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. ???!!??!?!?

this better not be true


Thats so fucked up. This whole thing is. What kind of an human being CAN do this kind of shit? Humans like this should not deserve to get death penalty. This may be a bit radical but they should just be kept alive to suffer. Say, keep them alive but make their life a living hell, not just in jail but some other way. Fucking break their knees and make them walk for the rest of their lives. This makes me so angry.


Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Careful my friend. This is why others are in charge of their sentencing. Sure you could blow out their kneecaps and make them crawl around on all fours across the Salt Flats, but what would that do to your soul?


You're right, and im sorry if my post offended anyone. Shit like this just makes me so angry. And if he happens to get a death sentence he is set free way too easily.
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