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Deadlifter
Norway68 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: There a reason we are not calling this Domestic Terrorism? Yes. ter·ror·ism/ˈterəˌrizəm/ Noun: The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims For this to qualify specifically for terrorism there would have to be some sort of "meaning" or agenda behind it. Beyond just killing people. Nutjob, definitely. Terrorist? we'll see. Probably not. | ||
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: There a reason we are not calling this Domestic Terrorism? Someone else brought up a good point about terrorism being politically motivated. It uses fear to accomplish a specific goal. ATM we don't know what this sick ****ers goal was, so he's just a 'mass murderer.' | ||
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Adersick
United States216 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
How does a civilian get a rifle and tear gas in the US? Is it something anyone can buy at a gun store? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: There a reason we are not calling this Domestic Terrorism? because he hasn't given us any political motive? random killings that are the product of a deranged mind are not terrorism. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:18 Defacer wrote: Dare I ask ... How does a civilian get a rifle and tear gas in the US? Is it something anyone can buy at a gun store? rifle, yes np. Tear gas is trickier. | ||
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Deadlifter
Norway68 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:18 Defacer wrote: Dare I ask ... How does a civilian get a rifle and tear gas in the US? Is it something anyone can buy at a gun store? I'm guessing the gas was stolen from military or police stocks or something like that. Is it confirmed to be tear gas? because that would be a _lot_ harder to get a hold of than say a regular smoke cannister for example. I know many people who have stolen a few of those from the time they were in the military. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19345 Posts
That smile just makes it horrific. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
If by trickier you mean you have to walk outside the gunshow so that the guy can show you his illegal stash in his trunk for sale, than yes, a bit trickier. Having gone to gun shows in Ohio growing up, I can tell you it was commonplace for vendors to offer hand grenades, tear gas, and armor piercing rounds, given one is willing to fudge the rules a bit. It really is that easy. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
probably watched the preview to that new movie coming out where the guy gets a brain tumor and goes on a killing spree against all the things he deemed injust about society. That's what I felt like when I hear all of the news coming in, PHD student etc... Probably just snapped. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:24 farvacola wrote: If by trickier you mean you have to walk outside the gunshow so that the guy can show you his illegal stash in his trunk for sale, than yes, a bit trickier. Having gone to gun shows in Ohio growing up, I can tell you it was commonplace for vendors to offer hand grenades, tear gas, and armor piercing rounds, given one is willing to fudge the rules a bit. It really is that easy. I said trickier, not impossible. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:25 NeMeSiS3 wrote: probably watched the preview to that new movie coming out where the guy gets a brain tumor and goes on a killing spree against all the things he deemed injust about society. That's what I felt like when I hear all of the news coming in, PHD student etc... Probably just snapped. i saw that movie, its called "God bless America" | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
Not sure why Americans focus so hard on one 'random' kidnapping case every month when literally thousands are being abducted. Again not trying to being unsympathetic(My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those affected) to the events that took place last night/this early morning. I just wish Americans would be more aware of the big picture. I'll refer now to a quote that Stalin was given credit for even though he didn't actually make it. 'The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' User was warned for this post | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
Oh I know, if you detected any ire I apologize, I only want to make it clear to our European and foreign brethren that obtaining these sorts of weapons in the US is incredibly easier than it should be. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:27 SayGen wrote: Please don't think me unsympathetic, but not sure why people are so upset about 10 people dying at the movie theater when 100+ people EVERY DAY in car crashes. What about the daily deaths for disease, famine, or war, etc. Not sure why Americans focus so hard on one 'random' kidnapping case every month when literally thousands are being abducted. Again not trying to being unsympathetic(My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those affected) to the events that took place last night/this early morning. I just wish Americans would be more aware of the big picture. I'll refer now to a quote that Stalin was given credit for even though he didn't actually make it. 'The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' Probably because cars don't pull guns in crowded theaters. There's a thing called "intent". Most car crashes are not intentional. | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:27 SayGen wrote: Please don't think me unsympathetic, but not sure why people are so upset about 10 people dying at the movie theater when 100+ people EVERY DAY in car crashes. What about the daily deaths for disease, famine, or war, etc. Not sure why Americans focus so hard on one 'random' kidnapping case every month when literally thousands are being abducted. Again not trying to being unsympathetic(My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those affected) to the events that took place last night/this early morning. I just wish Americans would be more aware of the big picture. I'll refer now to a quote that Stalin was given credit for even though he didn't actually make it. 'The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' People can kid themselves about things like car crashes. "I'm a good driver so I'll be safe on the roads." and so on. There is no kidding yourself that you can predict and avoid a madman going on a random killing spree. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:27 SayGen wrote: Please don't think me unsympathetic, but not sure why people are so upset about 10 people dying at the movie theater when 100+ people EVERY DAY in car crashes. What about the daily deaths for disease, famine, or war, etc. Not sure why Americans focus so hard on one 'random' kidnapping case every month when literally thousands are being abducted. Again not trying to being unsympathetic(My thoughts and prayers go to the family of those affected) to the events that took place last night/this early morning. I just wish Americans would be more aware of the big picture. I'll refer now to a quote that Stalin was given credit for even though he didn't actually make it. 'The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' Funny you brought that up because I was having a conversation with someone last night about the "fear" complex of it. What if YOU were there, even though you have more of a chance of dying from a coconut falling on your head. To be frank, I wish people cared more about the thousands of people who die a day due to starvation. But that's offtopic, I feel sympathy but I won't stop going to movie's because of this. | ||
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