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On July 09 2012 07:03 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 03:34 farvacola wrote:On July 09 2012 03:31 darthfoley wrote:On July 09 2012 02:36 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 02:31 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:27 Smat wrote:
Guys stop arguing about how man people are gay. The statistics are all completely biased because of the social implications of admiting you are gay. 10 percent is acutally probably the best estimate. Anything below 5 percent is way to low given the size of current gay communities in relation to the their countries population. But the point is, no one really knows. 10% gay ? are you getting out of house ? not want to be mean but i know 1 gay man out of 200 . OP : google will just get more publicity i dont think they step in becose they rly care about gay marriage imo . Don't rely on your social circles to determine the amount of queer people seriously... A better experiment would be to think about your high school class, but oh wait you have no idea how many people are gay from your high school class. See the problem? my highschool class is around 2.5% gay i would say. of course it's not concrete but i'm quite aware of my surroundings. According to my recently recalibrated gaydar, there are approximately 4.7 homosexual individuals within 1000 ft of my computer. I can't be sure though, the tachion interference may be too strong. if you were making fun of me it flew over my head, sorry to dissapoint
Don't worry, everyone else got it.
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On July 09 2012 06:51 sereniity wrote:
How the fuck can people like you think that something like tax money not being paid by them is something more important than this?
Disgusting, really.
I think providing a decent education (which is generally paid for by taxes) to children is going to be far more effective at creating equality then Google hectoring random governments. Stuff like health care, public transport, national defense and foreign aid are pretty important as well.
On July 09 2012 07:00 Djzapz wrote:
Pretty much all big enterprises and rich people hire tax lawyers to save millions of dollars of taxes in one way or the other. This is not new.
Yes, I know it's done by many, but I don't think that makes it excusable. At least companies like Tesco and Nokia don't bleat about their motto being "do no evil" while they send their profits to a headquarters based in Jersey or whatever.
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On July 09 2012 07:09 Fireflies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 06:51 sereniity wrote:
How the fuck can people like you think that something like tax money not being paid by them is something more important than this?
Disgusting, really. I think providing a decent education (which is generally paid for by taxes) to children is going to be far more effective at creating equality then Google hectoring random governments. Stuff like health care, public transport, national defense and foreign aid are pretty important as well. Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 07:00 Djzapz wrote:
Pretty much all big enterprises and rich people hire tax lawyers to save millions of dollars of taxes in one way or the other. This is not new. Yes, I know it's done by many, but I don't think that makes it excusable. At least companies like Tesco and Nokia don't bleat about their motto being "do no evil" while they send their profits to a headquarters based in Jersey or whatever.
Firstly, this is a legal solution to minimizing taxes made popular by Apple. No accounting department anywhere would suggest "hey you know, we should pay more tax. our board of directors will love that." If you want large corporations to pay sufficient tax, then get on the politicians and force them to close the damn loopholes. You can't expect profit driven public (this is important) corporations to intentionally decrease their value for what you perceive as "fair."
Secondly, it sounds like you're supporting a sort of "all or nothing" fallacy. Well, why do they care about gay rights when they don't [...]. Support google for things they do well, and reproach them for things they do wrong (e,g, taxes).
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Google announces plan to get more business by giving it self good PR.
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On July 09 2012 07:25 Romantic wrote:
Google announces plan to get more business by giving it self good PR.
We all know that's a big reason for this, but in the end, does that really matter? They're trying to make a change for the better, personally I don't care if they're doing it for recognition or just because they are such good people.
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This study describes very well the problems of determining the distribution of homosexuality & bisexuality in populations:
Abstract
Sampling Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Populations
Ilan H. Meyer and Patrick A. Wilson
Columbia University
Sampling has been the single most influential component of conducting research with lesbian, gay, and
bisexual (LGB) populations. Poor sampling designs can result in biased results that will mislead other
researchers, policymakers, and practitioners. Investigators wishing to study LGB populations must
therefore devote significant energy and resources to choosing a sampling approach and executing the
sampling plan. The authors describe probability and nonprobability sampling methods used in LGB
populations and critically discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the sampling methods they review.
The authors conclude that no single sampling methodology is correct or incorrect for use in LGB
populations; rather, researchers must evaluate advantages and disadvantages of each sampling method-
ology in the context of the specific research question and the research design.
full study: http://www.columbia.edu/~im15/files/sampling.pdf
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On July 09 2012 05:01 Smat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 04:49 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:36 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 02:31 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:27 Smat wrote:
Guys stop arguing about how man people are gay. The statistics are all completely biased because of the social implications of admiting you are gay. 10 percent is acutally probably the best estimate. Anything below 5 percent is way to low given the size of current gay communities in relation to the their countries population. But the point is, no one really knows. 10% gay ? are you getting out of house ? not want to be mean but i know 1 gay man out of 200 . OP : google will just get more publicity i dont think they step in becose they rly care about gay marriage imo . Don't rely on your social circles to determine the amount of queer people seriously... A better experiment would be to think about your high school class, but oh wait you have no idea how many people are gay from your high school class. See the problem? maybe in US . in europe everyone knows if your class mate is gay or not . and i only met 1 gay swapping 4 high schools in 2 diferent countrys . gays arent afraid of bully in eu . Its not about bullying... And your anecdote basically makes my point, do you realize how little chance there is that 4 different high schools have only one gay person between them all? It would be a pretty amazing coincidence.
well actualy in europe we have other problems then sexuality . how about that ?
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Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
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The funny part is, well besides the whole bigoted ignorant parts of your post, that you're going to continue to use google because it's the best search engine on the net.
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On July 09 2012 07:41 xsnac wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 05:01 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 04:49 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:36 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 02:31 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:27 Smat wrote:
Guys stop arguing about how man people are gay. The statistics are all completely biased because of the social implications of admiting you are gay. 10 percent is acutally probably the best estimate. Anything below 5 percent is way to low given the size of current gay communities in relation to the their countries population. But the point is, no one really knows. 10% gay ? are you getting out of house ? not want to be mean but i know 1 gay man out of 200 . OP : google will just get more publicity i dont think they step in becose they rly care about gay marriage imo . Don't rely on your social circles to determine the amount of queer people seriously... A better experiment would be to think about your high school class, but oh wait you have no idea how many people are gay from your high school class. See the problem? maybe in US . in europe everyone knows if your class mate is gay or not . and i only met 1 gay swapping 4 high schools in 2 diferent countrys . gays arent afraid of bully in eu . Its not about bullying... And your anecdote basically makes my point, do you realize how little chance there is that 4 different high schools have only one gay person between them all? It would be a pretty amazing coincidence. well actualy in europe we have other problems then sexuality . how about that ?
You are simply deluding yourself.
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On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
Would you go to your friend's wedding?
Cause I have a hard time believing you don't treat them differently and yet would have no problem with your heterosexual friends marrying but apparently you would have an issue with your homosexual friends marrying.
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On July 09 2012 07:25 Romantic wrote:
Google announces plan to get more business by giving it self good PR.
The best way to give yourself more business from a PR perspective is to avoid offending anyone and being quiet on controversial issues.
Google is probably giving up far more users than it stands to gain by making this step.
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On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
So what's your stance on sterile people? Why are they allowed to get married then?
On July 09 2012 07:03 DoubleReed wrote:
Man you are really vitriolic for a person who chose the screen name "serenity."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking you to stop. It's hilarious.
What can I say, people like this bring out the worst in me...
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On July 09 2012 07:41 xsnac wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 05:01 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 04:49 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:36 Smat wrote:On July 09 2012 02:31 xsnac wrote:On July 09 2012 02:27 Smat wrote:
Guys stop arguing about how man people are gay. The statistics are all completely biased because of the social implications of admiting you are gay. 10 percent is acutally probably the best estimate. Anything below 5 percent is way to low given the size of current gay communities in relation to the their countries population. But the point is, no one really knows. 10% gay ? are you getting out of house ? not want to be mean but i know 1 gay man out of 200 . OP : google will just get more publicity i dont think they step in becose they rly care about gay marriage imo . Don't rely on your social circles to determine the amount of queer people seriously... A better experiment would be to think about your high school class, but oh wait you have no idea how many people are gay from your high school class. See the problem? maybe in US . in europe everyone knows if your class mate is gay or not . and i only met 1 gay swapping 4 high schools in 2 diferent countrys . gays arent afraid of bully in eu . Its not about bullying... And your anecdote basically makes my point, do you realize how little chance there is that 4 different high schools have only one gay person between them all? It would be a pretty amazing coincidence. well actualy in europe we have other problems then sexuality . how about that ?
And here I thought the only problem on the planet was sexual discrimination.... thank you for enlightening me good sir. You see in America we only have one problem, the gays.
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On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
I'd like to see a man and a woman alone on an island give birth to a newborn baby also. It would be a great reality tv show.
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On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
Don't you have a moral obligation to treat them worse so that they get out of society? You realize you are actively encouraging the worsening of society by befriending those people right?
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On July 09 2012 08:10 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends. So what's your stance on sterile people? Why are they allowed to get married then?
And old people. If a woman has had menopause I think that basically should be an annulment of marriage. She is no longer a wife, she is a domestic partner.
And if a man needs medication to have sex, he also loses his status as a husband and is just a domestic partner. After all viagra ain't how god intended things to be!
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On July 09 2012 08:16 Smat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends. Don't you have a moral obligation to treat them worse so that they get out of society? You realize you are actively encouraging the worsening of society by befriending those people right?
I love it when homophobes use the line "I have gay/lesb friends". Reminds of this awesome website
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/
Cutting. But funny. And sadly true 
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On July 09 2012 07:57 Felwarrior wrote:
Sad day... google just lost a lot of my respect D:
Say what you wish... but until 2 men alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby or 2 woman alone on an island can give birth to a newborn baby (with no prior or post modifications or additions to their own newborn state)... until that happens I don't think condoning their position improves our global society.
Call me what you like, bash whatever I say... but the truth stands out on it's own.
Edit:: and no, this doesn't mean to treat those with this challenge like idiots or ostracize them in anyway... I have gay/lesb friends and I don't treat them any different than any of my straight friends.
"My opinion is true and if you disagree then you're bashing."
That's really all that I got out of your post other than that you don't seem to understand the issue at all. Why shouldn't they be allowed to be married? It's not like the sole purpose of marriage is to have children, and they could still adopt.
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