EPTIdk, I don't really get why Google gets involved in this, but whatever! It's silly that gay marriage isn't 100% legal already...
Google Announces Campaign to Legalize Gay Marriage - Page 27
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
Idk, I don't really get why Google gets involved in this, but whatever! It's silly that gay marriage isn't 100% legal already... | ||
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
I do feel very uncomfortable with the idea of corporations doing this kind of things though. Leave it to the politicians. Companies launching campaigns and making laws just makes me feel a bit uneasy. I'm sure people are doing it since age old times below the table or by lobbying, but I still don't like it. I guess it's a better alternative to the Church making laws though isn't it. | ||
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
On July 09 2012 00:28 mdb wrote: If forbidding gay marriage is discrimination agains gay people, is forbidding having more than one husband/wife discrimantion against people who would like to live a life with polygamous marriage? This kind of argument makes sense on first appearance but if you think about it it's just ridiculous. Polygamy does not work anywhere in the world. Almost all except for the very rare ones collapse due to jealousy, there is some inequality between the partners, etc. Polygamy is mostly just a sort of harem for a dominant male that provides shelter to multiple women, with the first wife generally being held in more regard than the "concubines", with just rampant jealousy throughout. There is no legitimate reason for polygamy to be considered. No doubt the divorce rate would be something like 95%. Pedophilia is obviously taking advantage of a child in 99.99% of scenarios unless there's some weird Lolita thing going on there. Children also have restrictions on a lot of things they would do, why would the government allow prepubescent children to be married when they can't even legally have sex in the first place? When they are not allowed to live on their own, make a lot of their life decisions, etc. because the government (often correctly) deems them incapable of making such important decisions at that age? It makes no sense to allow a child to enter a civil union when they barely understand addition. Bestiality is obviously not an equal union in 99.99% of scenarios. It's a man having sex with animals, the animal needs none of the benefits granted from marriage and is not discriminated in any way upon. It's an animal. It has no higher cognitive functions that would make it sad it doesn't get tax exemptions, when it pays no taxes. Incest has obvious genetic ramifications with the children. I suppose there is less arguments against that but really, incest is far more taboo than gay sex. It can literally tear the foundations of families apart and completely destroy them in a much more personal way than "oh wow my son likes boys". Maybe it'll be legal in the future but I really could not care less. Like someone else mentioned, I imagine they could just change their name and get it done in some Las Vegas cathedral if they wanted. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On July 09 2012 10:49 Probulous wrote: Props to Google for being open about this stuff. If nothing else taking a stand makes their position (and any subsequent lobbying) clear. I also happen to agree that their is no logical reason why marriage should not be extended to include members of the same gender. If marriage can exist for a couple who never intend to have children and have no religious affiliation, why does their gender have anything to do with their right to get married? The anti gay marriage alliance are trying to hold back a change that we know is coming. In the same way that race used to be an issue, sexual alignment will be a non-issue in the near future. You can see this by the desperate and irrational arguments put forward in this debate.
[*]Marriage is about children -> People who never intend to have children can get married [*]Why bother? There are other bigger issues -> This is a basic right for a section of the population. In addition the two are not mutually exclusive. You can help famine in Africa and legalise gay marriage. [*]But religion.. -> Not the government's domian. [*]It's just a word -> If the word is important to those already married who have no religious affiliation, why can it not be important to those who want to get married? Dumb argument There are more arguments but they are all based on assuming that homosexuals are somehow different, other than their sexuality. This will change and trying to stop it is like trying to hold back the tide. I have nothing against gay marriage although a bit strange google is doing something like this. However just want to point out that just because something happens in the animal world doesn't immidiately make it "natural". In this case anti gay marriage or anti gay people in general points out the "unnatural" part as the only obvious part: Two people of the same gender can't give birth to a child. What this has to do with marriage is beyond me since there is nothing "natural or scientific" about marriage but merely something we have created. It's silly to not allow gay people to get married. | ||
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:36 TirramirooO wrote: Sick of talking about gay people.. Im not Christian, i dont believe in religion but that is totally the ANTICHRIST... With the same sex you cant make children soo is against nature but make people understant that is becoming hard. Keep going, in the future you all gonna open your EYES. What about surrogate mothers? What about couples where a womans baren and cant have kids...you saying they should just be not loved...get the fuck out | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On July 09 2012 16:01 papaz wrote: I have nothing against gay marriage although a bit strange google is doing something like this. However just want to point out that just because something happens in the animal world doesn't immidiately make it "natural". In this case anti gay marriage or anti gay people in general points out the "unnatural" part as the only obvious part: Two people of the same gender can't give birth to a child. What this has to do with marriage is beyond me since there is nothing "natural or scientific" about marriage but merely something we have created. It's silly to not allow gay people to get married. The definition of natural isn't "continues evolution" it's "naturally occuring" (if you want to get technical the oxford english dictionary says "Existing in, determined by, conforming to, or based on nature.") which is generally assumed to mean something that occurs without humans making it or causing it to (I think there's an argument to be made that everything is natural because we're animals like anything else, but that's for another debate) and by that definition homosexuality is easily natural. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
That's probably a bit too cynical. Nice to see big companies using their pull for good. Thumbs up for google! Don't think they can get me to use more of their products than I already do though, I wonder if they even have products I am not currently using  | ||
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Rhine
187 Posts
On July 09 2012 16:59 NeoLearner wrote: Don't think they can get me to use more of their products than I already do though, I wonder if they even have products I am not currently using In terms of how many products they have, that's pretty much guaranteed. I only support gay marriage because religion is against it. That's...kind of an odd reason to support it, isn't it? | ||
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BillClinton
232 Posts
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Acetone
United States200 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
Wait. Why the fuck are civil rights political statements? Hnnnggg. It's still very strange and very depressing that non straight people face as much discrimination as they do. | ||
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Kid-Fox
Canada400 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:36 TirramirooO wrote: Sick of talking about gay people.. Im not Christian, i dont believe in religion but that is totally the ANTICHRIST... With the same sex you cant make children soo is against nature but make people understant that is becoming hard. Keep going, in the future you all gonna open your EYES. Can someone explain to me why Christians have a tendency to capitalize random WORDS for emphasis, even when it SEEMS awkward to place emphasis on those words. It can BE really random. Also, you're as Christian as those Christians who disassociate themselves with the institution, instead referring to their faith as a "relationship with God." Very clever move by Google. They're really getting their name out there. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
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meltingmykohchoo
166 Posts
On July 08 2012 18:36 TirramirooO wrote: Sick of talking about gay people.. Im not Christian, i dont believe in religion but that is totally the ANTICHRIST... With the same sex you cant make children soo is against nature but make people understant that is becoming hard. Keep going, in the future you all gonna open your EYES. i am totally a christian but like... dont hate on gays they can be the coolest ppl ever (sometimes, sometimes they are just super wierd) but seriously, if you're looking at it from a nature standpoint, i think it's a way of natural saying, our world is wayy to populated lets thin the population down a little and still allow for relationships and not a lifetime of lonelyness. Nature is telling us that we are growing wayy to fast for our world imo. and how is being gay against nature? doesnt it occur in many different species? | ||
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Go1den
England116 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On July 09 2012 19:13 Go1den wrote: This should scare people regardless of their stance on gay marriage: the fact that Google thinks as a giant ass corporation that they can and should influence political decisions. It's just strange that such a base civil rights (and human rights) issue is considered political. I mean, if Google came out in favor of interracial marriage.. would any care? It's such a "no shit" issue. The fact that in 2012 it's still socially acceptable to discriminate against homosexuals is fucking disgusting. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On July 09 2012 19:13 Go1den wrote: This should scare people regardless of their stance on gay marriage: the fact that Google thinks as a giant ass corporation that they can and should influence political decisions. Don't be fooled, they are doing this because they think it will benefit them finacially, not because they want to make politics. It's the same reason so many companies market themselfs as "green/sustainable/CO2 reducing/etc" despite it costing them money to be so. It's good for buissness in the end, not because they think it will save the world or because they want to force politicians to make laws to save the enviroment. This issue is basically the same, Google sees where the winds are blowing so to speak and coming out being for this it will only improve their image in the long run. | ||
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