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On July 04 2012 18:35 publicenemies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 18:28 kingjames01 wrote:
The cluster of journalists is the Higgs boson. I think the cluster is called the Higgs Field. A single journalist is a Higgs boson
No, the journalists "clumping up" is a metaphor for the higgs field being excited. Think about it like this: an electron is also a particle representing a field excitation. It's an excitation of the electromagnetic field. Basically, it's electromagnetic energy concentrated into one area. The reporters represent "higgs field energy" coming together in order for a higgs boson to "appear". The higgs field is continuous, reporters are not, so the metaphor isn't perfect.
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How were the last few days leading up to the press conference?
There are so many people involved in this project. I'm so amazed and grateful for all of the work being done and how seamless the process was.
Once you shared the result to the community, how did you feel?
It was amazing to be able to share the result personally but also for the entire collaboration. The entire project is very complicated.
Emotionally, the CMS project rep did not feel it until today.
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so long  so will they analyze all the data now about the higgs boson while the LHC is down for a couple years?
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On July 04 2012 18:41 Daitakk wrote:
I'm making a note here: Huge success.
is it hard to overstate your statisfaction?
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The CMS and ATLAS worked separately and sometimes even at times competed. Is today's achievement even more significant because of that?
Yes. The collaborations competed with each other, but competition also existed within the collaborations. Without the worldwide computing efforts, this could not have been done. The collaborations have not found time to put their results together.
How similar is the particle similar to the Higgs described by Peter Higgs.
It is consistent with everything required by the Standard Model. We need a lot more data. Ask again in 3 or 4 years.
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On July 04 2012 18:42 TearsOfTheSun wrote:so long so will they analyze all the data now about the higgs boson while the LHC is down for a couple years?
Of course! They have a lot of people whose jobs are analysis. You can continually improve statistical analysis methods (and come up with new ones) even if you're not getting new data. The higgs events themselves are relatively few in number, so theres a lot of data without higgs events, but now that they've got enough higgs events to say with 5 sigmas of certainty, they can continually work with what they have to find better ways to analyze it and get more signal over it.
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Which are the main private companies that contributed to the experiments. Especially, the Italian companies. What is their ROI?
1/3 of the magnets were built by an Italian company, 1/3 by a French company, 1/3 by a German company.
Each company involved had to work at the frontiers of technology. The demands asked by the physicists pushed everything to the limit which the companies reaped the benefits for. Also, having their names attached to the projects give a reputation bonus.
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On July 04 2012 18:47 Bobbias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 18:42 TearsOfTheSun wrote:so long so will they analyze all the data now about the higgs boson while the LHC is down for a couple years? Of course! They have a lot of people whose jobs are analysis. You can continually improve statistical analysis methods (and come up with new ones) even if you're not getting new data. The higgs events themselves are relatively few in number, so theres a lot of data without higgs events, but now that they've got enough higgs events to say with 5 sigmas of certainty, they can continually work with what they have to find better ways to analyze it and get more signal over it.
gracias <3
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Will there be a press conference announcing the discovery of a Higgs boson instead of a 'Higgs-like boson'? When would that be?
It depends on what you mean. We need to be able to get more data and study it before we can say anything for sure. 3 or 4 years. It's a complicated issue.
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Sheldon made a calculation error on page 2.
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On July 04 2012 18:49 kingjames01 wrote:
Which are the main private companies that contributed to the experiments. Especially, the Italian companies. What is their ROI?
1/3 of the magnets were built by an Italian company, 1/3 by a French company, 1/3 by a German company.
Each company involved had to work at the frontiers of technology. The demands asked by the physicists pushed everything to the limit which the companies reaped the benefits for. Also, having their names attached to the projects give a reputation bonus.
At CERN people were often bitching about the Italian companies for not delivering the components on time. The split between Italy, France and Germany for the production of magnets was done for political reasons. Without that, the order would've gone 100% to the French or the Germans.
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On July 04 2012 18:51 kingjames01 wrote:
Will there be a press conference announcing the discovery of a Higgs boson instead of a 'Higgs-like boson'? When would that be?
It depends on what you mean. We need to be able to get more data and study it before we can say anything for sure. 3 or 4 years. It's a complicated issue.
Thank you for your transcribing.
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What would be the most exciting thing? The Standard Model Higgs? The Standard Model Higgs plus something more exotic? The Standard Model is wrong!
The Standard Model would not be wrong. It is incomplete.
The ATLAS rep: She would like it if were a Higgs boson but not fulfill everything that it should.
The CMS rep: As scientists, we observe nature. There is no bias. We just see what nature gives us. We know the Standard Model is incomplete. Even if we find out that this is not the Standard Model Higgs, it will guide our future.
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..So what has been said so far? I havent been able to watch.
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On July 04 2012 11:52 GDbushido wrote:
"hey guys, we accidentally opened a portal to another dimension. you've all played half-life right? yeah, its kinda like that. sorry."
Staring Brian Cox as Gorndon Freeman, I'd live that dream.
But yeah this annoucment is crazy! Can't wait to see how this will change the world... and trying to understand it all is hard LOL
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During the talks there were some error bars shown that seemed large. Do you think that these are troubling?
Although the error bars looked big, everything is consistent with the Standard Model.
Boson vs. Higgs boson. If it was a new boson, would it remove the need for a higgs boson. Do we still need to search?
We need something that does what the Higgs boson supposed to do. The boson found is very likely to be related.
Technical Question: How long before you confirm that this is a Spin 0 particle and not Spin 2?
We still need to address this point. Over the next coming months, we will have to get more data and work on that question.
To Peter Higgs: Can you please make a comment.
No.
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Wow, that was the cutest voice I've ever heard.
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"You can't deny that this was a statement" haha, nice one.
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We will examine all of the properties that we can from our data. Perhaps by the end of the year. When we run at higher energies, we will be able to hone in on certain properties.
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How does the Higgs boson help with the Dark Matter question?
To examine Dark Matter we need to look beyond the Higgs boson. The Higgs only gives us some indications. Anything we learn from the Higgs boson, that will help to constrain specific models.
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