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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
June 10 2012 18:36 GMT
#101
that guy forgot to say: you are only special if you have money.. otherwise go away plz.
since 98'
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
June 10 2012 18:54 GMT
#102
On June 10 2012 04:54 Iteachextra wrote:

#3. For everyone in the world who thinks they are a great athelete, student, or enginner, someone in the world that has greater prowess than them. He states that you strive to do what you enjoy and dont bother competing with everybody else.



What if you are the best ?

Sorry he just lost all credibility
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 18:58:46
June 10 2012 18:54 GMT
#103
I listened to the first 10 minutes, and I think depending on how you take it he can be wrong or right. Obviously everyone is special in terms of their specific personality traits, interests, quirks, etc. But in terms of their education and how people perceive them more generally, graduates really aren't anything special. Graduating from high school isn't a major accomplishment (unless its a prestigious one, perhaps), and since practically everyone graduates then it does become pretty meaningless as an indicator of who you are.

It can be relevant if he notices that many students have an over-inflated sense of imoprtance; otherwise its unnecessary and kind of cynical.

Edit: But I do like some of the other points he made, doing things because you enjoy them, not getting sucked into base materialism to satisfy yourself, good stuff.

On June 11 2012 03:54 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 04:54 Iteachextra wrote:

#3. For everyone in the world who thinks they are a great athelete, student, or enginner, someone in the world that has greater prowess than them. He states that you strive to do what you enjoy and dont bother competing with everybody else.



What if you are the best ?

Sorry he just lost all credibility


Okay, so he's right for 99% of the people out there? That's hardly losing all credibility, its just a minor correction. The basic point is right, don't go into things looking to be the best, because its extraordinarily difficult. Just do it because you enjoy it
Man with a Plan
Profile Joined January 2012
United States401 Posts
June 10 2012 18:57 GMT
#104
Excellent advice all in all. I think he touches on something people usuallly deny or take for granted. We feel entitled to success that we often do not want the hard work. Real life is a bitch. Lets all accept it and prepare.
Yo!
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
June 10 2012 19:01 GMT
#105
On June 10 2012 23:49 Domus wrote:
His entire speech is based on a fallacy. That if everybody is special, nobody is special. This is just not true, when everybody is special, everybody is special. Wanting someone else to not be special to be special yourself is a negative approach to life. (Human) life in itself is something special, and I think that measuring everything in achievements is a bad thing (I think the man agrees with me on this, he just has a very negative way to go about it). I think that measuring everything in achievements and efficiency is one of the greatest flaws of (western) civilization.

On June 11 2012 00:02 Creager wrote:
this is garbage just to support the continuing existence of our failed captalistic system... while I agree that you must strive for your ideals, the mindset of 'always working hard' in fact fuels competing for wealth and social acceptance, so it seems inevitable. people should start thinking and being critical of their environment instead of pursuing the goals someone tells them to and get indoctrinated to materialism...

Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
June 10 2012 19:20 GMT
#106
Everyone is special, in the way that everyone is unique.
Only 1 out of 1000 people is special in the sense that they have much greater potential then the 999 other ones.
It is good to be realistic, but its not good to be TO realistic.
Telling people they special can be a bit of a selffulfilling profecy, a sort of neuro linguistic programming.
People have to believe they can do something first,before having a change to succeed.
Dont think there is annything wrong with telling children and students they are special, as long as you dont overdo it.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 10 2012 19:27 GMT
#107
On June 11 2012 03:54 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 04:54 Iteachextra wrote:

#3. For everyone in the world who thinks they are a great athelete, student, or enginner, someone in the world that has greater prowess than them. He states that you strive to do what you enjoy and dont bother competing with everybody else.



What if you are the best ?

Sorry he just lost all credibility



There's a couple things that people need to know about being 'the best'.

1) The 'best' are the best because in addition to having extreme innate talent, they had a string of unique experiences and opportunities, lucky breaks, and work harder than most people can possibly imagine.

Kobe Bryant is a good example. When he joined the Beijing Olympic team, other younger 'superstars' like Lebron James and Chris Bosh were shocked to discover that Kobe's daily routine included things like waking up at 3 AM everyday to go to the gym, watching other Olympic teams play and practice during his downtime for scouting information, and barely socializing.

2) The success of being 'the best' is always tainted. Fans and other players will hate you for no real reason, your teammates will expect you to carry them and cover your mistakes, etc.

So yeah, the OP's advice still applies. It's more important to love what you do and not worry about the rewards than to be 'the best' at something.



Schaudenfraud
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States38 Posts
June 11 2012 12:21 GMT
#108
This guy is totally wrong. Most humans are special. It's not an everyday thing that mother nature just happens to make a species that is capable of order, culture, and being somewhat awesome as time goes by. I mean, the reason why I eat turkey sandwiches are because they aren't special. Shout outs to meat eaters in earth btw. The reason why I'm not eating humans is because they're pretty damned special compared to everything on Earth. When turkey sandwiches are capable of reasoning, language, and thought,I'll stop eating them.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 12:30:52
June 11 2012 12:26 GMT
#109
On June 11 2012 21:21 Schaudenfraud wrote:
This guy is totally wrong. Most humans are special. It's not an everyday thing that mother nature just happens to make a species that is capable of order, culture, and being somewhat awesome as time goes by. I mean, the reason why I eat turkey sandwiches are because they aren't special. Shout outs to meat eaters in earth btw. The reason why I'm not eating humans is because they're pretty damned special compared to everything on Earth. When turkey sandwiches are capable of reasoning, language, and thought,I'll stop eating them.


Most humans are special, does that make being special not special?

Last time I checked he wasn't giving his speech to turkeys.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
June 11 2012 12:30 GMT
#110
i don't understand how anyone can go through life and realize that they aren't special. i realized this years ago and i'm only 20 right now...inb4 hipster comment
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Schaudenfraud
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:03:33
June 11 2012 13:02 GMT
#111
On June 11 2012 21:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 21:21 Schaudenfraud wrote:
This guy is totally wrong. Most humans are special. It's not an everyday thing that mother nature just happens to make a species that is capable of order, culture, and being somewhat awesome as time goes by. I mean, the reason why I eat turkey sandwiches are because they aren't special. Shout outs to meat eaters in earth btw. The reason why I'm not eating humans is because they're pretty damned special compared to everything on Earth. When turkey sandwiches are capable of reasoning, language, and thought,I'll stop eating them.


Most humans are special, does that make being special not special?

Last time I checked he wasn't giving his speech to turkeys.


Humans are the Grandmaster's League of mother nature. They ARE the GM league of Earth. That's like saying "Most GM players are special, does that make being special not special?" and the answer to that is no because there are other lame animals like turkeys who aren't even in our league. Looks pretty special to me. People are on the tail end of the bell curve.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
June 11 2012 13:20 GMT
#112
On June 11 2012 22:02 Schaudenfraud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 21:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
On June 11 2012 21:21 Schaudenfraud wrote:
This guy is totally wrong. Most humans are special. It's not an everyday thing that mother nature just happens to make a species that is capable of order, culture, and being somewhat awesome as time goes by. I mean, the reason why I eat turkey sandwiches are because they aren't special. Shout outs to meat eaters in earth btw. The reason why I'm not eating humans is because they're pretty damned special compared to everything on Earth. When turkey sandwiches are capable of reasoning, language, and thought,I'll stop eating them.


Most humans are special, does that make being special not special?

Last time I checked he wasn't giving his speech to turkeys.


Humans are the Grandmaster's League of mother nature. They ARE the GM league of Earth. That's like saying "Most GM players are special, does that make being special not special?" and the answer to that is no because there are other lame animals like turkeys who aren't even in our league. Looks pretty special to me. People are on the tail end of the bell curve.


...... I don't even..

Isn't it safe to assume that when he says "you aren't special" what he MEANS is: "you aren't special, for a human"
I really can't even try to comprehend where the hell you are going with this.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:28:02
June 11 2012 13:27 GMT
#113
On June 10 2012 05:01 GreEny K wrote:
As I said in the other thread, I completely agree with everything he said.

But, I feel that parents need to tell their kids that they are special and so on.

I feel like parents shouldn't bother telling their kids that they're special. Special is used in a bland and meaningless way today. Far better to praise the kid for being polite, or considerate, or for remembering to do all their chores and homework without prompting, or for learning how to do something new. People shouldn't be praised for merely existing. They should be praised for doing.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
June 11 2012 13:35 GMT
#114
We are all special because in the millions or whatever sperm men ejaculate we are the one which won the great race. Of course now with in-vitro i don't know if that changes things but for the majority of us we are all born winners and special.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
June 11 2012 13:38 GMT
#115
On June 10 2012 05:11 iwearcapes wrote:
really stupid speech i almost felt embarrassed for him idk why just the way his jokes were and the things he was saying. soo cliche?


I agree, his presentation was terrible but that doesn't make the ideas he is presenting any less true.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 11 2012 13:39 GMT
#116
Isn't it bad in some cases to be special?

i.E. if you are too intelligent you may find it hard to socialise, if you lack intelligence too hard the same applies.

Human beings, society and nature often is about finding consensus, loving the same things (like, uh, SC?) and living together in a social group.

Being special is harder imho than being normal.

I can highly recommend Jon Lajoie "Regular everyday normal guy".

YouTube Link
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 11 2012 13:46 GMT
#117
I agree with with he said, but I prefer to procrastinate on TL.
Maybe the end of professional BW is a good thing and I will become successful thanks to that.
ॐ
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
June 11 2012 13:49 GMT
#118
On June 11 2012 22:02 Schaudenfraud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 21:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
On June 11 2012 21:21 Schaudenfraud wrote:
This guy is totally wrong. Most humans are special. It's not an everyday thing that mother nature just happens to make a species that is capable of order, culture, and being somewhat awesome as time goes by. I mean, the reason why I eat turkey sandwiches are because they aren't special. Shout outs to meat eaters in earth btw. The reason why I'm not eating humans is because they're pretty damned special compared to everything on Earth. When turkey sandwiches are capable of reasoning, language, and thought,I'll stop eating them.


Most humans are special, does that make being special not special?

Last time I checked he wasn't giving his speech to turkeys.


Humans are the Grandmaster's League of mother nature. They ARE the GM league of Earth. That's like saying "Most GM players are special, does that make being special not special?" and the answer to that is no because there are other lame animals like turkeys who aren't even in our league. Looks pretty special to me. People are on the tail end of the bell curve.

Humans are about as special in the animal kingdom as turkeys.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 14:08:25
June 11 2012 14:07 GMT
#119
He's right that the sense of entitlement is crippling western economies.
Telling kids they are special and can do anything they want hasn't really helped them , since most end up wanting to work in the media, become an artist or be a rock star.It shouldn't be up to the taxpayer to pay their unemployment cheque when they can't find work after graduating from college with a 50,000 loan and a degree in art history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
June 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#120
A more accurate statement would be "Nobody is special, but everybody has potential".
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
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