EPTYou're Not Special - Page 3
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
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AeroGear
Canada652 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 10 2012 07:16 Silentness wrote: I thought it was all about "Who you know?" I've only been working full time for 5 years. (two months from 25) From my perspective though, I think if you want to be successful, it's a combination of a university education and knowing the RIGHT people. You can be a dumbass and still get a good job if you have good networking skills. I work everyday with some people that I wonder how they got their jobs. Education, don't be socially retarded, and have good budgeting skills and you'll go far in life. I don't think that's how the speaker is defining success. He just sees the use of learning for learning's sake (people going to guatemala as a thing to put on a resume?) and selflessness as a highest moral cause. I'm not sure if he even speaks about success in the video. Would have to rewatch. | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
No sense of accomplishment... Practically everyone graduates... why should I be proud? Now, passing with distinctions and honours are where it's at. | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On June 10 2012 05:31 DidYuhim wrote: We are unique. Telling us that we're not is a lie. Everything besides that is not to be taught by some random guys on youtube. that s what he says. Everyone is unique, hence nobody is. Quite clever, though he totally ripped this line. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
I don't think you can be "told" the lesson that he is teaching - and it's not something that applies to everyone. It's something that you have to learn about yourself. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On June 10 2012 08:01 Geo.Rion wrote: that s what he says. Everyone is unique, hence nobody is. Quite clever, though he totally ripped this line. from The Incredibles!!!! | ||
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FlamingForce
Netherlands701 Posts
There's certainly a truth to it, though, no arguments there. On June 10 2012 06:33 Leporello wrote: I find it ironic that he's David McCullough's son. Basically, he was born into a very good life. Privileged, one could say. And for that reason, his speech really bothers me. He isn't wrong in his points, generally speaking, but he is wrong in saying it at such an occasion to such people. Graduate students don't need a privileged born-to-wealth person telling them they aren't special -- or that they don't need to compete (he certainly didn't). That just kind of bothers me. An interesting point indeed ^_^ | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On June 10 2012 07:38 HawaiianPig wrote: This is how I felt during both my high school and undergraduate graduation... No sense of accomplishment... Practically everyone graduates... why should I be proud? Now, passing with distinctions and honours are where it's at. This is a misunderstanding of the ceremony I think. Graduation is not for the student, its for the student's support structures. While it may be true that most people who are lucky enough to be afforded a good education graduate, most people in the world are not that lucky. It takes a tremendous amount of work and a long legacy of investment to make what we have today possible. Every once in a while it is important to marvel at the opportunity itself, not just what has been done with it. That aside, i agree that graduating with distinction is where its at lol. | ||
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Synapze
Canada563 Posts
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tuho12345
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
You get about 70 years give or take, what are you going to do with it? If the answer is "be successful" you simply don't understand the question. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
I agree with that speech, except my definition of success in life would be to have a gr8 family and see my kids do better things than I did. Don't really care about saving other peoples lives, I'll do it if it makes money ofc | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On June 10 2012 08:16 tuho12345 wrote: Listen to Tyler Durden man:"We're all singing and dancing craps of the world" "You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world." is the actual quote. If you're going to quote the Fight Club a more fitting one would be, "Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else." | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On June 10 2012 05:16 Omnipresent wrote: Even though he's mostly right, he's a real dick about it. It's a commencement. You don't have to show up and tell everyone how great they are, but there's no reason to make them feel useless. He's not funny, inciteful, or otherwise interesting. I also think it's interesting that he takes time to tell everyone that they have to make their own opportunities if they want to be successful, even though we're only seeing this because his dad is a really mediocre historian. Pretty much. He's right about it but the presentation is purposefully drawn-out to be extra negative for an effect. He tries to end it positively but his tone (and honestly just his voice) does not support the positive effect he is going for, which kind of ruins the overall structure of the speech. It would have been better if it were slightly revised and if somebody else (who had a voice with a setting besides "mono-tone") gave it. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On June 10 2012 05:10 solidbebe wrote: Should they really? I mean obviously they shouldn't be told they're worthless, but is learning them their place in the world not better than making them think they're special and unlike anyone else? Good point, but I feel that the confidence you gain from your parents telling you things like "you can do anything you set your mind to" and "you're special" is more beneficial than the alternative. Imagine a world where people don't strive to better themselves, I don't like it as much. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 10 2012 12:33 GreEny K wrote: Good point, but I feel that the confidence you gain from your parents telling you things like "you can do anything you set your mind to" and "you're special" is more beneficial than the alternative. Imagine a world where people don't strive to better themselves, I don't like it as much. Welcome to communism, where that happened (parents grew up in Communist Czechoslovakia) | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
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