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On December 04 2005 03:20 Yizuo wrote: I'd be happy to have normal dreams regulary.. Roughly every 4 month I dream somehing I can remember in the morning. Actually you dream every night, you just never remember it. Read my last post, I was able to make myself remember my dreams.
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Getting to thinking about lucid dreaming reminds me of another mind trick I've experienced. I'd really like to know if any of you can do this trick.
I can temporarily "dis-associate" from my surroundings while fully awake and walking around. I'm not sure if that is the right term, and I've never heard of anybody else doing it. I've been able to do it since I was very young. I begin to think in literal terms about the world around me, and I focus on the fact that I am able to touch things and hear things. I steady my breathing and focus on my perceptions, remaining aware that my perceptions are separate from the actual reality of my surroundings. I keep repeating in my mind that I could very well be in a dream, and I try to seperate my awareness from my senses. I think these thoughts over and over and pace around the room observing objects. Table. Chair. Counter. Red Sweater. After a while, my mind enters an altered state of awareness for what feels like 30 seconds. It's like a switch is thrown and I can't turn it off; it has to run its 30 seconds. During that time, I feel very surreal and can't help but to move my arms around a bit to take in the sensations. At this point, if someone tries to talk to me, I can't really process what they're saying. This disassociative state of mind makes me uncomfortable and anxious, and after a few moments and I'll usually attempt to go back to "normal" by sitting in a chair, openning the fridge, grabbing the counter. Just anything to re-associate my mind with my surroundings. But it always takes like 30 seconds to snap out of it. I can't usually do it more than once in a day.
That's the best way I can describe the event. Have you guys ever heard of that phenomonen? Or experienced it? It sounds crazy, but I'm not making it up. I've always been able to do it as long as I can remember.
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Belgium8305 Posts
Sorry Headbangaa, you're a freak. :D
And yeah, lucid dreaming is really fun.. I got into it a few months ago and now I'm getting better at it, I have at least one lucid dream a week and boy, they're fun. I lost count of how many I've had, must be somewhere around 50 now.. I think the coolest aspect of it is how real everything looks and feels while you know for a fact that it's all just a dream and that you control stuff..
Flying rocks, although I can't do it really fast.. It's more like being carried by the wind or something for me, but I can control where I'm flying to.. Walking through mirrors is cool, gives you this weird sensation and suddenly you're somewhere else.. crazy how mirrors function as some kind of teleporters in dreams. Just recently I've started trying telekinesis in my lucid dreams, I'm having a blast with that.. picking stuff up, floating it around and shooting it away just by moving my hand at it.
There's one thing I just can't seem to do, though, while others are capable of it.. using violence. Whenever I see dream characters walk around, I want to try and beat them up just for the hell of it, they're not real anyway.. but when I hit them, it's like it doesn't even phase them.. I feel the impact but they don't even budge, like they're made out of steel. When I try to circumvent this by making a gun appear, no bullets come out. :D So I just stand there looking like an idiot aiming a gun or a rifle at them but not firing and they just stare at me or go about their business like nothing's happening.
Oh well, crazy shit. :D
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I do believe there is a machine you can buy that enables you to recognize when you're dreaming while you're dreaming.
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Australia3818 Posts
On December 04 2005 05:03 CorporalClegg wrote: I do believe there is a machine you can buy that enables you to recognize when you're dreaming while you're dreaming. Yeah I read up about that...they are based on sounds that you listen to whilst awake...then you have the thing running while you're asleep and over time you'll learn to pick them up inside dreams.
I suck at going to sleep though...if I think about it...I just can't do it...or at least it'll take me ages. Yesterday was an exception because I was in one of the most tired states of my life. Tonight I'll try to do this: Go to sleep naturally...either by watching a movie on my computer and doze off...then immediately turn everything off and go to sleep faster...whilst thinking about dreaming and looking for differences.
Oh and Cow, I read on one of the lucid dreaming sites that if you are flying...if you want to try go faster and higher...imagine you are superman or something similar and that some kind of energy is created...or maybe try to imagine you have a jetpack or something. That'd be interesting...haha or alternatively imagine you are a shuttle from SC and you just got a speed upgrade. LAME! But it might work.
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On December 04 2005 03:56 ygor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2005 03:20 Yizuo wrote: I'd be happy to have normal dreams regulary.. Roughly every 4 month I dream somehing I can remember in the morning. Actually you dream every night, you just never remember it. Read my last post, I was able to make myself remember my dreams.
Mhh, yeah, didn't thought it was possible to achieve this.. Well, I'll just try  Ty
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Belgium8305 Posts
Yeah, I've been trying the Superman thing, that does go a bit faster and higher, I'll work on it. :D
And the machine CorporalClegg heard about was probably the Novadreamer or a similar device, it detects when your eyes go into REM-mode (signifying that you are dreaming) and starts emitting red lightflashes, not bright enough to wake you up but you do notice them in your dream so after a while they supposedly help a lot to achieve lucidity.
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i dont think it was a lucid dream but i remember it vividly. i was following this girl (extremely hot, with a very, very short skirt) up the stairs(you know what that implies), we got in an elevator and she like jumped on me. it was a really hot dream till i was woken up. i was so pissed off, but when i went back to sleep, i had picked up exactly where i left off. an amazing dream ensued.
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This brings back memories...
I want to be 14 again.
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i am 14 lol. have any of you ever dreamt so real that you cannot seperate it from reality? i've had 2 dreams like that. one was one where i was very young and doing stuff with my neighboors who moved away. it was weird though because i didn't remember the dream until weeks afterwards and when i did i just accepted it as memory. i mentioned it to my mom and she was like "huh?" the other one this hot girl i know told me she liked me, and when i woke up for about 20 min i couldn't tell the dream from reality.
and i've noticed i never have nightmares....i just have unusal dreams that give me wierd feelings when i wake up. strange...yes...scarey....no
i could go on and on about all the dreams i've had
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Yeah i had several dreams in wich i knew i was dreaming, (indeed they were more nightmare that dreams)... i could'nt really control what was happening in it, but i was trying to escape and awake, and i finally managed to wake up by taking a quick and deep breath...
While trying to escape my nightmares, i often try to speak and/or move, but i can't... in fact i think that i'm half awoke and sometimes people (in real life) tell me that i spoke and moved while sleeping, but it wasn't comprehensible. That's why i dont think dreams last just 1 sec(but we believe they are longer), i think they really last the time of the whole dream...
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lol i had lucid dreams ALL the time(every dream) until i was about 10 then i stopped dreaming kinda. but id always dream of being like a superhero lol. goku and spiderman were the ones i remember... it was pretty sweet flying around, and shooting web from ur wrists onto buildings...
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I have lucid dreams all the time.
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have lucid dreams sometimes... but there a few times where i can control it.. and when i do.... the dream wont last long for some reason T__T
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http://www.ld4all.com/#frames(content=ld4all_welcome.shtml) There is also another thread about this on tl.net
Also, i kind of had a lucid dream last night. I saw this hot asian chick, so i was like sweet i want to have sex with her. So we did it in the bathroom, then a fat guy walked in on us so i ran away and woke up.
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I began taking a dream journal to help get into lucid dreaming. However, i've begun to notice i have a very odd dream pattern.
Rem sleep: "Although sleep may seem like a steady state, it actually consists of several stages that cycle throughout the night. The types of brain waves present at the time (based on amplitudes and frequencies) determine the stage of sleep. Only a brief introduction to the stages of sleep will be presented here because a thorough examination of them is beyond the scope of this site. Most importantly, lucid dreams occur in the 5th stage of sleep, known as the REM (Rapid Eye Moment) stage (note: REM is read as a word, not as each individual letter). As the name alludes to, the most profound discernible characteristic of REM sleep is the bursts of rapid eye movement while dreaming. Although dreaming occurs during the other stages of sleep, the most vivid dreaming occurs during the REM stage.
One complete sleep cycle lasts about 90 to 100 minutes; therefore during an average sleep period a person will experience 4 to 5 complete sleep cycles. The sleep cycle begins with four stages of SWS (Slow-Wave Sleep), also called NREM (Non-REM). Note that after the completion of the 4th stage, the 5th stage does not immediately begin; instead, the first 4 stages quickly reverse and are then immediately followed by a REM period. The first REM period will occur roughly 90 minutes after falling asleep; thus the first REM period will last only about 10 minutes, given the length of each sleep cycle being roughly 100 minutes. The length of the stages is not static, however: as the night proceeds, the length of stages 3 and 4 (also called delta or deep sleep) begins to wane, and the length of REM sleep increases, up to about one hour in length after a number of cycles. Therefore, as the night goes on, you dream for longer periods of time." http://www.dreamviews.com/sleepstages.php
However for me, if i dreamed during the night I don't remember it or it's a very small flash like i recall dancing, but thats it. I set my alarm clock for 7, but i'm tired from going to sleep @ 12 so i just roll over. Almost immediately i enter a dream. These dreams are really vivid, and when i wake up @ 8, i remember the dream completely. However, if its a saturady, i'll wake up and say " taht was a good dream", i'm gonna doze for a little longer. And the minute i start dozing, i enter into a dream that i also remember clearly when i wake up. This could go on until i have 3 dreams and they all occur each time after i wake up and go back to sleep. Is this normaL? / why is this happening?
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the smurg of 2005 thanks you for this info.
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Is it true that when you think of something for a long period of time before going to sleep, you'll dream about it? Because I went to kansas city and i had dreams about that place for 3 nights.
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JUST HAD CRAZY LUCID DREAM. I was at school, and someone who wasn't my locker partener who was my locker partner need his text books got his text books, then this girl who was my friend wanted to see if she had her text books in my locker, no. Then i threw out 2 old sandwichs. Then i imagine people talking shit about me throwing food away but the food was fucking rancid. Then i think i miss something but im in my underwear at the local lake where there is a little beach, its kind of morphed but not really. People from school are there, and random people my mind just placed there. There was some guy tecktonic dancing. I only figured out i was in my underwear as i was leaving, i was like fucking wtf, just walked out tried to not draw attention. As i was trying to leave i was already on the road and i had that weird walk thing where you can't run in your dream and i was like FUCK IM DREAMING, so now i try to get laid. I try to just make it happened but that didn't work, school bell went and people where disappearing. There was only one girl left and some douchebad who i don't even think is real, but the girl is real. So i try to get laid and somehow it ends with me saying if i chug down tonic water i get to fuck her, yeah im a failure, but i swear i had that shit, then i wake up and pissed my pants. BUT GUESS WHAT I WAS STILL DREAMING, I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE FUCKING OMG I PISSED MY PANTS WHEN I WAS STILL DREAMING. oh man and in my dreams after i pissed my pants i got up from bed, and changed my clothing cleaned myself and started my xbox and started halo 3 up. Then i randomly awaken from my dream and im like WTF, I WAS STILL DREAMING? MOTHER FUCKER. COULD HAVE GOTTEN LAID IN MY DREAM
oh yeah and as i was leaving the lake on the swings where several girls i fucking remember vividly fucking bitches im going to kill them, and one of them even followed me, fuck and then thats when i try to run hence realizing it was a dream also when i dreamed i pissed myself when i walked to the washroom my fucking computer and computer desk where in the hallway, i guess since the first thing i usually did was start my computer my dream wanted to prevent me from going online tldr: 1. dream 2. realize im dreaming try to get laid. 3. wake up from my dream "while still in my dream" 4. wake up from dreaming i woke up from my dream. "awake now"
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Oh yeah and when i woke up from my dream when i was still dreaming i could hear metallica cause thats what is leave playing when i go to sleep
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