On August 08 2011 10:40 Cirn9 wrote:
The Complexity team's tag
Everytime I see it.... COLONEL
The Complexity team's tag
Everytime I see it.... COLONEL
Be thankful that you see it as COLONEL.
Every time I see it I think COLON

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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On August 08 2011 10:40 Cirn9 wrote: The Complexity team's tag Everytime I see it.... COLONEL Be thankful that you see it as COLONEL. Every time I see it I think COLON ![]() | ||
oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On August 08 2011 12:41 oldgregg wrote: people writing ![]() especially after they type some pissed off offensive rant. oh yea, we really believe youre not out of control raging while you type that. ![]() | ||
Puph
Canada635 Posts
On November 16 2005 00:30 1hp wrote: What grinds your gears? ... What grinds your gears? More like who. who. Pea Tear Griffon | ||
Triscuit
United States722 Posts
On August 08 2011 10:15 Leporello wrote: If you want to call dubstep the work of "musicians" that's fine, but you're stretching the definition of musician to the Nth degree. Songwriters I can see being a better description, but as such, meh. I kind of understand you there. I am not musically inclined at all and I would feel weird calling someone who creates dubstep music a "musician." Even someone that just sings isn't really labeled a musician to me. They all fall under the label of "artist." Hip hop and rap artists are almost never called "musicians" even if they do produce their own beats and stuff. I think it's really more of a weak divide though. Someone that produces music could be called a musician, regardless of the medium. | ||
Kid-Fox
Canada400 Posts
"He'll let lose." "He would of made code A, man." "I certainly think he could of." "Do you like Sc2 to?" "Your such a jerk, unpausing on me." "Where's you're password again?" "Whose their?" "140 lings. That's a large amount of zerglings." "I know I shouldn't do comma splices, it's not proper use of punctuation." | ||
LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On August 08 2011 12:50 Supamang wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2011 12:41 oldgregg wrote: people writing ![]() especially after they type some pissed off offensive rant. oh yea, we really believe youre not out of control raging while you type that. ![]() I apologize on behalf of all the people who have at one point attempted to make a sarcastic rant, but made the rant appear too real, so put a " ![]() OT: Inaccurate paraphrasing. EDIT: On August 08 2011 13:30 Kid-Fox wrote: "Did you loose the game?" "He'll let lose." "He would of made code A, man." "I certainly think he could of." "Do you like Sc2 to?" "Your such a jerk, unpausing on me." "Where's you're password again?" "Whose their?" "140 lings. That's a large amount of zerglings." "I know I shouldn't do comma splices, it's not proper use of punctuation." Lojban is for you! | ||
iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
On August 08 2011 13:30 Kid-Fox wrote: "140 lings. That's a large amount of zerglings." what's wrong with this? | ||
Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On August 08 2011 13:30 Kid-Fox wrote: "140 lings. That's a large amount of zerglings." I dont see a problem with this one | ||
uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On August 08 2011 13:39 Supamang wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2011 13:30 Kid-Fox wrote: "140 lings. That's a large amount of zerglings." I dont see a problem with this one A large "number" of Zerglings. Not "amount". Zerglings are discrete and countable. It's similar to how "a large number of milk" is obviously wrong. | ||
Vestige
United States303 Posts
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
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KaiserReinhard
United States554 Posts
On August 08 2011 13:50 blahman3344 wrote: The Jersey Shore. As if I didn't have enough reasons to dislike my own state already, the Jersey Shore just adds to it. Also, the fact that such a terrible show still continues to make more episodes upsets me greatly. /rant When people type 3 sentences and think it constitutes a rant. ![]() | ||
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Whyzguy
Canada263 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On August 08 2011 10:15 Leporello wrote: I don't find it that hard. If I ask a guy playing an electric synthesizer to end his song on a triad, they can do that. Because they're playing an instrument, even if it is laden with electronics. Therefore, they're a musician. So let's say that a guy is creating dubstep music with his MPC and knows what a triad is (which has nothing to do with being a musician), would he be a musician by your definition then? What about a person who plays the blues on guitar that doesn't know anything about music theory? Is he a musician? If I ask someone writing a dubstep song to end it with a triad, they'd probably think I'm talking about an asian mafia gang. Are you trying to say that just because someone creates dubstep, they don't know what a triad is? Where are you even getting this stuff? It can be the case that you annotate music via a computer. That's fine. But that's not how most electronic music is made -- such as dubstep or "samples" you here in electronic dance music. Those "melodies" are often made by the computer to conform to whatever beat the author dictates. And those beats or rhythms are rarely if ever outside basic 4/4 time. I've never heard 7/8 dubstep. I'm not sure that'd ever be possible, and it's sound like a trainwreck. Samples are only one part of creating electronic music. You're leaving out all the work that goes into picking out the right samples to use and putting those samples together in a way that fits what you're trying to do. Whether they stray from common time or not has nothing to do with the musicianship of the music and everything to do with the genre. How many 7/8 rock songs or blues songs do you know of? I'll give you a hint, 7/8 is a shit time signature to dance to or do just about anything else to... Also I don't even know what you mean by melodies being made by the computer. No computer I've ever used has created a melody for me. I've had to create the beats, bass lines, melody, keyboard parts, guitar parts, record vocals, and find, chop, edit, and place samples. You really think all that is any less work than any other "musician" does? If you want to call dubstep the work of "musicians" that's fine, but you're stretching the definition of musician to the Nth degree. Songwriters I can see being a better description, but as such, meh. And yes, I read and annotate music on the computer (never written anything original though, as I need more years of understanding musical theory to really feel comfortable). Electronic music goes beyond just composition, recording, and producing. There's a very big live element that exists in many instances. To call these people "songwriters" when they're often doing much more than simply writing is really not doing justice to their work or their abilities. I get it, you don't like dubstep. Personally, I don't pretend to understand it either. It sounds like shit to me, but you're letting that dislike lead you to making a lot of unfounded assumptions and judgments about both the genre and its artists. You're also holding the term "musician" up to some magical definition that seems to mean nothing other than that you acknowledge them. Where do you think all of the beats and instrument parts in electronic music are coming from? Do you seriously think everything is sampled? People are playing them with their MIDI keyboard or whatever. Seriously, who the hell sits there and pencils stuff in? I'll just leave this here so people can see that electronic music is a lot more than just sitting at a computer with a keyboard and mouse.. (And yes, I've recently started using the Maschine and I absolutely love it.) There are a lot of things you touch on in your replies and it's valid. I think what gets people the most is the interaction between human and sound. Traditionally, humans act upon an instrument and the sound is what results from the human-instrument interaction. Very straightforward. In the case of electronic music, humans act upon both the instrument and the sound. Though I can't put past myself the idea that pressing a key on the piano should be considered the same as pressing a button on the maschine mentioned, I don't know how to explain that feeling and can only concede that the human to instrument interaction is the same in both electronic and non-electronic music. However, the fact that the sound in electronic music is manipulated still stands. There are many things that are done to the sound directly such as reverb etc. in which case, there are two instances of instruments that create one discreet sound. Without going too much further, there is a clear distinction between creating sound and manipulating sound. Why someone would manipulate it into the sounds of dubstep confuses me on a personal level. NOW Back to the thread. What grinds my gears (and fingers) is blister packaging (see picture) ![]() | ||
crms
United States11933 Posts
On August 08 2011 10:31 LegendaryZ wrote: I'll just leave this here so people can see that electronic music is a lot more than just sitting at a computer with a keyboard and mouse.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUb3-tRs_A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFlFxJFnfY (And yes, I've recently started using the Maschine and I absolutely love it.) I wish you didn't show me that. That wasn't impressive at all. In fact, I thought it was much more difficult, I'm pretty naive to electronic music creation. That's pretty sad. In the end I don't care, I'm a fan of some electronic music mostly dubstep but wow that was kind of pathetic. I'm a death metal guitarist though who listens to mostly tech death so I'm kind of an elitist I guess. :[ | ||
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