EPTStudent detained, forced to drink urine for 5 days - Page 7
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:43 FallDownMarigold wrote: So then eventually someone calls. "Where's my son". Eventually people ask. Eventually they discover he was detained by the DEA. And then the DEA eventually not only has a negligent death on their hands, but also active effort to cover it up, undermining the legitimacy of the entire organization and the US gov't image. I don't think so They had already done the paperwork saying he was released. All the DEA would need to do is stand by the paperwork and it would appear he went missing after release. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote: HAHAHAHA So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well? It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Well it is really not meant in an insulting way, but you come across as an idiot here.. After some days without water, your brain does not work properly anymore, so labelling someone without a proper functioning brain who commits seemingly stupid desperation acts an idiot, is not the smartest move from you. | ||
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whiterabbit
2675 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote: HAHAHAHA So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well? It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? Who knows what was going in his head after such a long time without water/food, maybe guy genuinly thought it was sugar or something... | ||
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AzureHath
Bulgaria154 Posts
On a serious note, this really sucks, he's probably going to be rich now too. :x | ||
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anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
On May 02 2012 21:28 TheLOLas wrote: I completely agree with you. While it sucks that he got screwed, he still committed a crime. i can't believe how many people take this view and see things in black and white. probably the majority of people on this site have downloaded music and / or movies, which is against the law. if you almost died in a horrible manner, expected to die and were left with permanent damage as a result of gross negligence, is it fair to say that you forfeit your right to any compensation because you downloaded a movie? would you excommunicate your dad if he admitted to kicking over a street sign or something when he was 18 and drunk? derp. open your fucking eyes people, the world wasn't written in binary and it isn't separated into criminals and non-criminals. i think you'll find that most people are actually human beings. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8111 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:45 ecstatica wrote: HAHAHAHA So engineering student thought that meth was food? Maybe he ate his glasses for that same purpose as well? It's horrible and all but how much of an idiot can someone be (if he was honest about it in his story)? People have been known to eat off their own fingers when they get hungry enough. You honestly think he was thinking clearly after 5 days without food? edit: And more importantly, 5 days without water. Dehydration kills any notion of clear thinking. | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
To those making light of the prisoner's situation, first consider the effects of dehydration--skin ulcers, hallucination, mouth sores, tongue cracking. Then add the mental aspect of going from thinking you will be released (or at least fed/allowed to urinate) in an hour or two, to slowly realizing/believing you have been forgotten and are going to die in, essentially, a broom closet. I bet they didn't even give him a good book to occupy him. Eighth Amendment, sucka! | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 02 2012 23:01 anycolourfloyd wrote: i can't believe how many people take this view and see things in black and white. probably the majority of people on this site have downloaded music and / or movies, which is against the law. if you almost died in a horrible manner, expected to die and were left with permanent damage as a result of gross negligence, is it fair to say that you forfeit your right to any compensation because you downloaded a movie? would you excommunicate your dad if he admitted to kicking over a street sign or something when he was 18 and drunk? derp. open your fucking eyes people, the world wasn't written in binary and it isn't separated into criminals and non-criminals. i think you'll find that most people are actually human beings. This post >>>>>> 99% of other posts in this thread. | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
On May 02 2012 23:05 Excludos wrote: People have been known to eat off their own fingers when they get hungry enough. You honestly think he was thinking clearly after 5 days without food? edit: And more importantly, 5 days without water. Dehydration kills any notion of clear thinking. Also, if you are locked in an empty room containing anything--rat shit, a jar labeled xxpoisonxx, etc., after 5 days without water, you are going to be at least considering the possibility that the rat shit is actually raisins and the poison jar is full of protein powder. Inability to empathize with this kid is a failure of imagination. Anyone could find themselves in a similar situation. What if you ran out of gas and walked to the nearest house to use the phone, just as it was being raided by the DEA? This is why we presume innocence--or are supposed to. | ||
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xwoGworwaTsx
United States984 Posts
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
On May 02 2012 23:01 anycolourfloyd wrote: i can't believe how many people take this view and see things in black and white. probably the majority of people on this site have downloaded music and / or movies, which is against the law. if you almost died in a horrible manner, expected to die and were left with permanent damage as a result of gross negligence, is it fair to say that you forfeit your right to any compensation because you downloaded a movie? would you excommunicate your dad if he admitted to kicking over a street sign or something when he was 18 and drunk? derp. open your fucking eyes people, the world wasn't written in binary and it isn't separated into criminals and non-criminals. i think you'll find that most people are actually human beings. Add to that the fact that nothing suggests that he actually committed a crime. I mean, he very well might have committed a crime, but from the article, he could have just as easily just showed up at what he thought was a legit party, and been swept up in a raid before he realized how gangster his pals were. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuance | ||
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I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW
22 Posts
Edit: Confused meth with crack for some reason. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 02 2012 23:32 I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW wrote: I find it curious that none of you considered that the guy ingested the crack because he was locked up in a cell and had nothing better to do. This seems to be the most likely explanation by far, at least to me. That seems like the most unlikely explanation. Seeing as they said meth too, not crack XD. But yeah, I really doubt he "ate" meth for fun. | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
On May 02 2012 14:30 Sinensis wrote: This is horrible and I wish him the best, but I came into this thread expecting waaaaay worse because of how the title is worded. "FORCED to drink urine..." well, he pretty much was forced to drink urine. Either that, or die to dehydration. but the near death experience is probably going to make this guy very rich. | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:46 treekiller wrote: A simple mistake. These things happen.. Ive put my dog in a cage for about 5 days and forgot about him. He died though. tt. Erm.. am i the only one who read this and thought "wtf..." | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 02 2012 14:12 Noruxas wrote: Well seeing how its USA, he'll probably sue them and get a few million dollars OLOLOLOL Without the joking aspect... probably. I would if that happened to me. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
On May 02 2012 14:30 Sinensis wrote: This is horrible and I wish him the best, but I came into this thread expecting waaaaay worse because of how the title is worded. "FORCED to drink urine..." Well, he would've died otherwise. No person forced him, but I guess it's fair to say he was forced by the circumstances. And this is tricky to me. Isolation for 5 days (he had to be to be forgotten, correct?), drinking your own piss, and eating meth off a floor for a few millions. Tricky, but I'd say it's prolly worth it. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On May 02 2012 23:41 TALegion wrote: Well, he would've died otherwise. No person forced him, but I guess it's fair to say he was forced by the circumstances. And this is tricky to me. Isolation for 5 days (he had to be to be forgotten, correct?), drinking your own piss, and eating meth off a floor for a few millions. Tricky, but I'd say it's prolly worth it. A person of average health can generally survive ~10days without water, sure you could argue he didn't know if he would ever get out but he could have gone the 5 days without drinking his piss. Altho doing the meth probably didn't do anything to clear his judgement | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:52 -_-Quails wrote: They had already done the paperwork saying he was released. All the DEA would need to do is stand by the paperwork and it would appear he went missing after release. Sorry but that still seems like paranoid conspiracy to me. Just because it could happen does not mean it would likely happen. Why would they take that risk? Investigation into his disappearance would quickly reveal that no one ever saw him after the DEA "released him". Follow up questioning into his "release" -- which no one ever actually confirmed -- reveals inconsistency in accounts of what happened, and maybe someone slips up, stating that although they signed forms, they never actually say anyone released. And so on. Eventually it caves in and then there is a huge mess. You may be the type of risky individual that thinks the DEA should've gone for the lie in order to save face. It's good that they don't operate in your high risk way, and instead prefer transparency, because otherwise they'd find themselves in a lot of trouble very quickly. | ||
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