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On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.
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Sounds like someone is seeking attention? Well you achieved it. How do you feel now? Saticefied?
Well she needs to find another kind of job that doesn't invole children. There must be other cases like this one that don't make the news. This all saddens me a lot. Those couple of rotten apples in the human society. Well what can you say than it's apparently part of the human nature. Maybe some people just think those things but don't say it. And others do.
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Shocking video. Signed the petition. Hope everyone does.
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While I certainly feel for the points the man brings up, I don't think it's very smart of him to be so specific about who were involved, before the internet goes all lynch mob on them. We have a legal system for a reason.
If I were him I'd try lobbying more with local congress folk. The video is fine, but if it is for raising awareness to the issue at the core of this, why not leave out the location or the names?
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This is very disturbing to me.
I have authism (although not as severe as Akian) and I go to a special school as well and I cant imagine being bullied like this.
These people should be fired and never allowed to teach again.
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On April 26 2012 22:31 Fryght wrote:
While I certainly feel for the points the man brings up, I don't think it's very smart of him to be so specific about who were involved, before the internet goes all lynch mob on them. We have a legal system for a reason.
If I were him I'd try lobbying more with local congress folk. The video is fine, but if it is for raising awareness to the issue at the core of this, why not leave out the location or the names?
I have no idea how bad things are over on reddit or other sites at the moment, but my guess would be that he assumed leaving the last names out will be enough. I kind of doubt that is the case though if you consider other cases where "the internet" wanted to find out personal details of someone. =S
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Watched 15 minutes of it. Wasn't as bad as I hoped (for the father's sake), so it won't get advertised on national, national media like the Martin case. I hate tenure.
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On April 26 2012 16:45 -Switch- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 10:42 RoosterSamurai wrote:On April 26 2012 10:37 Senjai wrote:On April 26 2012 10:33 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Isn't it against the rules to record audio/video inside of a school? I'm employed by the college I used to attend, and if someone were video or audio recording without the consent of everyone in the room, I'd have to have security remove them. Yep - It's also against the rules to do what these teachers were doing. When they're lying to parents and their administrators what else can they do. I'm sure they'll let it slide as a lesser evil in this regard. In college / university its mostly to prevent recording and distributing lectures or class material - completely irrelevant to this. They would not have to worry about this kind of problem as by that age it would just never slide more than an hour without it being brought up in some student organized protest. The policy is not to avoid disturbing/copying class material. If they were just wandering around the hallway quietly with a camcorder, we'd have to ask them to stop or leave. And I never said what the teachers did wasn't wrong. Who cares if its against the rules. Sometimes you might have to break a few rules to see justice served.
Isn't that what got George Zimmerman in trouble?
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This is the awfull ...
After a few minutes through the video, I was actually hoping it would end with the father beating up the teacher ... even though it would have made the message much less valuable ...
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On April 26 2012 11:12 Demonhunter04 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:05 screamingpalm wrote:On April 26 2012 11:00 Demonhunter04 wrote:On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest. It happens a lot less nowadays than it did before. Modern society is structured on the principle that the strong provide for the weak, and that everyone has a right to life regardless of their fitness. This is not how nature works, obviously, and a long time ago, people born with disabilities didn't live long enough for this kind of thing to happen to them. By the way, it's unwise to vocalize unpopular opinions. All that can come of it is people responding in anger to your post, like the ones below you, and mods warning/banning you. On April 26 2012 10:48 Senjai wrote:On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest. What if it were your child? What if it were you. Asshole. There is a difference between weak and unable. Inability is borne of weakness. Regardless of whether or not he is "right", your argument is invalid; people are hypocrites by nature. A good test of someone's stance on an issue actually avoids making it personal. Total fucking garbage. I grew up with a mother that had spina bifida, and she never let her disability get in the way to achieve anything. She put forth more parenting effort than I observed from any of my peers' parents. My mother would invite my friends' parents over and many would leave in tears realizing how shit they were. Embarassing for me at the time, but looking back, it was damn good parenting making sure I wan't running with a bad crowd. A good test of someone's stance on an issue does not necessarily mean dismissing anecdotes. Of course it does. Love for the people close to you will make you want to protect or help them even if, like FoxSC, you believe in "survival of the fittest." I was saying that Senjai's rhetorical question didn't prove anything except that Fox probably values his family more than his values. When people say "weakness" in this context they don't just mean physically weak, by the way. Weakness, in the broadest sense, is the incapability of doing something, which is why I pointed that out. By the way, how does your post have anything to do with what I said? Unless you also believe in "survival of the fittest", it's irrelevant (though I'm sorry to hear about your mom). Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 11:08 Kukaracha wrote:On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest. We define ourselves as different from animals. We don't poop in each other's gardens. Survival of the fittest has changed and is irrelevant in an advanced civilization. If it's bad, then how come we build space rockets and tigers are almost extinct? We established our supremacy over other species with technology, byproducts of our intellect. As technology has progressed and made our lives less demanding, less physical effort has been required to survive, which has led to us becoming physically weaker over the years but more intelligent. Thanks to our reliance on technology, unfavorable genes are more likely to survive. Survival of the fittest has definitely not become irrelevant, though. All of the skills and and traits that are beneficial to success in modern civilization are become more and more emphasized over things that used to be crucial like physical strength.
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This i acutally a common misconception the ability of humans is to a certain degree their interlect but more it is the ability to work togethor in order to achieve common goals and interesting parallel is some of the greater apes which lack the ability to do things such as share (think about it if everyone went around taking peoples stuff our society would collapse no matter how intelligent we are).
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I think being weak is largely a choice. Being unable is very different than being weak.
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Doesn't surprise me. I remember this one time in high school, I was on programming and the special ed room was across the hall. My seat was by the door so I could see outside. One of the special ed kids was walking down the hall slowly, and one of the special ed teachers started screaming and yelling at him to hurry up. When he didn't, she angrily stomped over, grabbed his arm, and dragged him into the classroom. It was disgusting to watch.
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On April 26 2012 20:15 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 19:46 give.ViviD wrote:On April 26 2012 19:20 Jinsho wrote:
Witchhunts belong on reddit, not on a SC2 website. Because this is a witchhunt? You cynical twat, try being elitist somewhere else. Moral panic? Check. Calls for lynching? Check. Looks like a proper witch-hunt to me.
You're missing the most important part. Witches don't exists and aren't guilty of anything.
These teaches are.
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Don't do the Please Read crap. This isn't facebook...
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I'm listening now but I read the other day one teacher was fired and the other transferred, is this all about getting that second teacher fired?
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That was so wrong. I can't believe that neither teacher nor aid was sensible enough to realize that what they were doing was wrong in so many ways and take action. Or better, realize beforehand that it was a terrible idea and report whichever teacher started this whole thing...
Oh, and the fact that it is incredibly hard to fire teachers even if they do something like this or worse doesn't help matters much either...
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This video is really disturbing and alarming. Any child, special needs or not, with constant verbal battering, will react. They are unfit to be teachers. How they made their way into special needs teaching is beyond me. I believe that teachers of special needs students are paid at a higher rate than those of normal teachers. Their pay is not the issue, though. I am hurt by the actions of the teacher and inactions of a school district.
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yes, it's horrible and makes me cry what mankind has come to!
bad teacher, leave them kids alone =(
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