On April 24 2012 00:06 Giantt wrote: Lets be objective and a bit scientific about the issue. In my opinion there are at least 100 people that might have had the idea of eating a raw fish in a cruel and inhumane way just for the fun of it but watching that video it didn't seem much fun, did it? So I wouldn't look at that video and say "That guy killed a fish in a brutal way" but rather "That guy prevented a lot of people from actually doing this" - just like some TV shows where they put aluminum foil, CDs or other crap in the microwave - so that everyone could see it and dont try it themselves. About the topic of punishment - did you actually watch the video - the guy was gonna throw up couple of times and looked quite miserable during the eating - I would call that enough punishment.
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
On April 24 2012 00:06 Giantt wrote: Lets be objective and a bit scientific about the issue. In my opinion there are at least 100 people that might have had the idea of eating a raw fish in a cruel and inhumane way just for the fun of it but watching that video it didn't seem much fun, did it? So I wouldn't look at that video and say "That guy killed a fish in a brutal way" but rather "That guy prevented a lot of people from actually doing this" - just like some TV shows where they put aluminum foil, CDs or other crap in the microwave - so that everyone could see it and dont try it themselves. About the topic of punishment - did you actually watch the video - the guy was gonna throw up couple of times and looked quite miserable during the eating - I would call that enough punishment.
"Let's be objective" "In my opinion..." lolwut?
this made piss mah pants
but on a serious note,
I can't understand how people can seriously be offended by this in any means. Everyone is eating all kind of animals all over the world, and they might have suffered 100 times more than this fish. This gold fish, might have felt something for about 5 seconds, and then it was dead. Just for the information, alot of fish gets cut in pieces while it's still alive. This is just how you get the freshest fish. I don't think it's completly right, nor wrong. I don't really care.. how do you think it is going in nature, when a lion kills a deer? i feels something aswell for maybe 5 to 10 seconds, and then it's done.
srsly, some people overhere are allways making huge deals out of nothing, so is the RSCPA... srsly, a gold fish which might have suffered for 5 second? Get a life...
Yeah, because the fish you buy at the supermarket all have the greatest time before they die in a big net on a fishing boat. Whatever, law. Waste of public funds.
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
Our attention as a society is limited. I do believe these (essentially) non-issues are taking time and energy away from more serious problems. I guess I can't prove it, and I certainly can't force people to turn their indignation towards the worst example of injustice around them.
On April 24 2012 00:06 Giantt wrote: Lets be objective and a bit scientific about the issue. In my opinion there are at least 100 people that might have had the idea of eating a raw fish in a cruel and inhumane way just for the fun of it but watching that video it didn't seem much fun, did it? So I wouldn't look at that video and say "That guy killed a fish in a brutal way" but rather "That guy prevented a lot of people from actually doing this" - just like some TV shows where they put aluminum foil, CDs or other crap in the microwave - so that everyone could see it and dont try it themselves. About the topic of punishment - did you actually watch the video - the guy was gonna throw up couple of times and looked quite miserable during the eating - I would call that enough punishment.
"Let's be objective" "In my opinion..." lolwut?
Yes, I think that my opinion is objective - I am not directly involved, don't have any interest in defending either viewpoint and certainly have more to say than "lolwut?".
On April 24 2012 00:06 Giantt wrote: Lets be objective and a bit scientific about the issue. In my opinion there are at least 100 people that might have had the idea of eating a raw fish in a cruel and inhumane way just for the fun of it but watching that video it didn't seem much fun, did it? So I wouldn't look at that video and say "That guy killed a fish in a brutal way" but rather "That guy prevented a lot of people from actually doing this" - just like some TV shows where they put aluminum foil, CDs or other crap in the microwave - so that everyone could see it and dont try it themselves. About the topic of punishment - did you actually watch the video - the guy was gonna throw up couple of times and looked quite miserable during the eating - I would call that enough punishment.
"Let's be objective" "In my opinion..." lolwut?
Yes, I think that my opinion is objective - I am not directly involved, don't have any interest in defending either viewpoint and certainly have more to say than "lolwut?".
Objectivity and science is a bit deeper than that. Lolwut applies.
I was under the impression that fish didnt have the nerve synapses to feel pain.. well not to the extent we understand and feel pain anyway.
anyway eating shit alive seems to be the norm for predators on this planet.
I would fucking love if all these animal rights pussys get eaten alive by prides of hungry lions. it would be a pretty well needed swift kick in the reality checker for all these tree hugging morons. The greatest part is by then it would be too late anyway. thats the beauty of nature. Its not fair in the slightest. I imagine the majority of the lions will have penetrated the stomach and started barrel rolling with entrails while 2 are clamped on the neck and 1 clamped to his face cutting off air and reducing oxygen flow to body when the fucking morons realize that they dont get to make the rules of nature.
On April 23 2012 18:24 SolHeiM wrote: I am completely behind this. I find eating any animal when it's still alive, or the torture of animals for your own amusement completely disgusting. I don't consider myself particularly oversensitive but I hope this guy gets his just deserts.
Where do you draw the line when it comes to eating things alive? You're allowed to eat a goldfish alive but not a cat or a dog? They are considered pets and you couldn't say "it's just a goldfish, after all" and then say it's not OK to consume a dog when it's alive, because then I say to you, it's just a dog, after all.
I think he should get jail time and get fined for animal cruelty.
A gold fish brain is smaller then the size of the diameter of the nail of your lilfinger(In nature science class I saw this when we dissected goldfish'). Their memory is approximately capable of 3 months. Sources : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfish
Congratulations on posting random facts. Goldfish are still sentient beings, and thus should be treated with some level of dignity.
On April 24 2012 00:51 Coagulation wrote: I was under the impression that fish didnt have the nerve synapses to feel pain.. well not to the extent we understand and feel pain anyway.
anyway eating shit alive seems to be the norm for predators on this planet.
I would fucking love if all these animal rights pussys get eaten alive by prides of hungry lions. it would be a pretty well needed swift kick in the reality checker for all these tree hugging morons. The greatest part is by then it would be too late anyway. thats the beauty of nature. Its not fair in the slightest. I imagine the majority of the lions will have penetrated the stomach and started barrel rolling with entrails while 2 are clamped on the neck and 1 clamped to his face cutting off air and reducing oxygen flow to body when the fucking morons realize that they dont get to make the rules of nature.
Although I love all the insulting words thrown in at random, I'd like to believe we don't live the same way as we did when we lived in caves. You think our society is natural? Is it natural for humans to eat animals alive?
Your graphic tale makes me slightly worry for you. I'm happy you have such a vivid imagination, but keep it to yourself perhaps?
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
Our attention as a society is limited. I do believe these (essentially) non-issues are taking time and energy away from more serious problems. I guess I can't prove it, and I certainly can't force people to turn their indignation towards the worst example of injustice around them.
Yes, our attention is limited, so you see nothing wrong in spending shitloads of money, time and energy on punishing a guy who ate a fish? You're not making any sense. At all.
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
Our attention as a society is limited. I do believe these (essentially) non-issues are taking time and energy away from more serious problems. I guess I can't prove it, and I certainly can't force people to turn their indignation towards the worst example of injustice around them.
Yes, our attention is limited, so you see nothing wrong in spending shitloads of money, time and energy on punishing a guy who ate a fish? You're not making any sense. At all.
Congrats on telling him he's not making sense when he is completely agreeing with you, read his post again.
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
Our attention as a society is limited. I do believe these (essentially) non-issues are taking time and energy away from more serious problems. I guess I can't prove it, and I certainly can't force people to turn their indignation towards the worst example of injustice around them.
Yes, our attention is limited, which is why we need to make sure we don't spend societal resources on bs like this.
On April 23 2012 23:41 hypercube wrote: I think it's hilarious that he tries to upset people on purpose then whines when it comes back to bite him (no pun intended).
I don't care about the goldfish but I don't care about him either. People get fucked over by the law all the time. I guess when we no longer have overzealous prosecutors or lazy cops actually destroying people's lives I'll start worrying about stupid trolls getting punished a little too harsh.
A little? We're talking jailtime for eating a fish here. There's a difference between thinking it's dumb that, for example, smoking weed is illegal and can get you fined, and thinking it's dumb that someone might seriously go to jail for eating a fish.
So what, people get life in prison for stealing candy (3 strikes FTW). It might not be right, but there are 1000 times worse things happening to better people, even in civilized countries.
Why stop child molesters when there are MURDERERS running around? Sounds legit. Oh wait no it doesn't.
Our attention as a society is limited. I do believe these (essentially) non-issues are taking time and energy away from more serious problems. I guess I can't prove it, and I certainly can't force people to turn their indignation towards the worst example of injustice around them.
Yes, our attention is limited, so you see nothing wrong in being upset about the waste of spending shitloads of money, time and energy on punishing a guy who ate a fish? You're not making any sense. At all.
@clarity: there, better?
He is saying that there are better things to spend attention on, but you can't force people to just focus on the worst of injustices all the time. You are saying that there are better things to spend attention on.
EPT
