I have seen people twice chug a goldfish when the were drunk, i really cant see why people are making such big deal out of this even tho its bit cruel if you think about it but i dont see the need to make a big deal about this.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

April 23 2012 16:41 GMT

#284

On April 24 2012 01:38 unnar wrote:
I have seen people twice chug a goldfish when the were drunk, i really cant see why people are making such big deal out of this even tho its bit cruel if you think about it but i dont see the need to make a big deal about this.

Every now and then you need to make a big deal about something like this, otherwise it gets considered to be normal and that's where everything goes downhill.

If everyone just goes: "shrugs", that's the same as accepting it, which I don't believe we should.
That's not to say this isn't an overreaction but I can see why it happened.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

April 23 2012 16:45 GMT

#285

On April 23 2012 19:12 SolHeiM wrote:

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On April 23 2012 19:05 BearStorm wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:50 SolHeiM wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:45 BearStorm wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.

You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.

Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey.

Define amusement. I am sure an acceptable definition would have to be derived from pleasure. I eat meat instead of healthier/cheaper alternatives because of the pleasure I get from the food. How is that different from eating a goldfish? If you think it's because I am eating it for reasons that are not primarily for nourishment, then should I go to jail if I am full and I eat a meaty snack for my amusement from an animal that suffered.

If you go and butcher an animal while it's still alive where your primary reason of butchering the animal is because you think that's a fun thing to do, and you don't give a shit about eating it because hunger is not the reason for killing it, that is what I mean. I mention the torture and cruelty of animals for your own amusement to be disgusting an inhumane.

If you kill an animal quickly and do not let it suffer, then that's alright. But if you let an animal die an agonizing death because you think that's fun, then you're a disgusting person.

I think you have a good heart and your intentions are good. But I think you missed my point. We as humans do not need to eat meat. In fact it is probably more affordable to practice healthy eating while avoiding meat. However I support industries where cattle are slaughtered so that I can eat meat which is more enjoyable. The life of cattle from living conditions to their inevitable slaughter is cruel. It is probably even more cruel than a goldfish being eaten alive. I have an issue seing how you find breeding of animals in cruel conditions and eventually slaughtering them isn't killing them for our amusement. There are alternatives that are healthier, but we rather eat meat because it is more "amusing".

I'm saying I find the torture of animals for your own amusement disgusting. People eat because we need nourishment in order to survive. Killing of animals for food as long as you do it humanely is fine.

You're trying to put words in my mouth by trying to manipulate the word "amusement". I would be hard pressed to find anyone who would say that the cruel conditions in quite a few cattle farms, or whatever you call them, are for our amusement the same way a circus is for our amusement. I don't think anyone who went and watched what happened in those places would find that in any way amusing. If they do, then that's a shame.

I am not putting words in your mouth at all. I am simply pointing out an inconsistency in your arguement. You say it is ok to eat animals because we need nourishment. But we don't need to eat animals for nourishment. The fact that we do is to increase our pleasure. I find it hard to believe eating a goldfish alive for amusement is any worst than eating it because it tastes good. If we had to eat goldfish to survive then I could see the value of your argument, but we have alternatives to food but choose the more pleasurable one.

momonami5

United States109 Posts

April 23 2012 16:50 GMT

#286

On April 24 2012 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:

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yeah other things that actually important not about a gold fish. Seems like nobody cares about the important things just dumb things like this gold fish lol Then people go around calling others ignorant for not caring about gold fish there is way bigger things to worry about in the world.

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

April 23 2012 16:51 GMT

#287

He caused unneeded harm to the animal? Fish are eaten alive in the oceans all the time. I guess by that logic, all fish in the ocean that eat other fish should be considered criminal offenders. What a stupid claim to make against this guy

wunsun

Canada622 Posts

April 23 2012 16:52 GMT

#288

How come they didn't charge him regarding the live tarantula, but are over the live goldfish?

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

April 23 2012 16:56 GMT

#289

Jail seems incredibly stupid. Does fish even have a central nerve system? Well I guess they do but I think they should let him of with a warning.

orcsmash

Canada319 Posts

April 23 2012 17:00 GMT

#290

What's the difference between cutting the fish with a knife or smashing it against something to kill it or putting it in your mouth and cutting it with your teeth to kill it?

Also comparing eating a dog alive and a goldfish alive is stupid because of the point above. Dogs are bigger so if you start eating it alive it would live longer and suffer, it would be unnecessary and prolonging it's misery for no reason. Putting the entire goldfish in your mouth and chewing it kills it pretty fast.

Psychobabas

2531 Posts

April 23 2012 17:00 GMT

#291

On April 24 2012 01:52 wunsun wrote:
How come they didn't charge him regarding the live tarantula, but are over the live goldfish?

because goldfish are considered sweeter

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

April 23 2012 17:01 GMT

#292

I am saddened that anyone actually cares that this man ate a goldfish.

I went to a sushi resturant where they serve live lobster sashimi and they serve the lobster as it is still moving; the only thing about that that upsets me is that I am not wealthy enough to afford live lobster sashimi.

Also, wtf, why not outlaw fishing or hunting or trapping for any kind of game if this is an issue? So beyond stupid

I can take my 12 year old out hunting to shoot a deer but I can't eat a damn gold fish? Give me a fucking break.

Aterons_toss

Romania1275 Posts

April 23 2012 17:04 GMT

#293

Retarded, once again proof of how stupid laws can be abused by animal freaks and quite sad that someone who would sentence him can be called a judge... so yeah, normal for the EU or USA justice system i guess.
As a side not from someone who hates eating most cooked fish and find there meat horrible i am shocked by someone eating a live one, also someone should really get on trying to sue Bear Grylls for that sort of stuff, would be a damn funny case to watch, but Discovery and him got way to much money for that to happen i guess.

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

April 23 2012 17:05 GMT

#294

On April 24 2012 01:28 Blackhawk13 wrote:
It's pretty gross and I'm sure theres something that says people cannot buy animals from pet stores with the intention of doing them harm..

With that said, 20k or jail is pretty ridiculous.

feeder mice/rats?

Czech M8

United States16 Posts

April 23 2012 17:06 GMT

#295

I don't see anything wrong with this guy. It's just like eating sushi. I don't think someone will go to jail for eating a damn
fish even if it is alive. He paid for it, he cared for it, he ate it like a boss. Leave him alone. Go arrest some real criminals, not a guy who ate a goldfish. ffs, its a damn fish. Grow up.

KevinIX

United States2472 Posts

April 23 2012 17:07 GMT

#296

It's a goldfish. Wtf. People flush these things down the toilet all the time. Why would anyone even care about this.

WniO

United States2706 Posts

April 23 2012 17:07 GMT

#297

wasnt in oldboy that guy eats a live octopus or something? besides if this trend continues pretty soon they are going to have cameras on the sidewalks and if you step on a ant you could go to jail.

teh_longinator

Canada725 Posts

April 23 2012 17:09 GMT

#298

Jails in America are like businesses these days.

They use fines for revenue, and jail-time as a sort of blackmailing to make people give them their money.

Basically, he ate a fish. What's the difference between chewing it, and it being run through a factory?

0kz

Italy1118 Posts

April 23 2012 17:11 GMT

#299

On April 24 2012 02:07 WniO wrote:
wasnt in oldboy that guy eats a live octopus or something? besides if this trend continues pretty soon they are going to have cameras on the sidewalks and if you step on a ant you could go to jail.

yes ( amazing movie )
and is something that actually happens a lot?