Jail for eating a live goldfish? - Page 16

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

April 23 2012 17:13 GMT

#301

On April 24 2012 01:52 wunsun wrote:
How come they didn't charge him regarding the live tarantula, but are over the live goldfish?

It says why in the article. It's a legal difference between invertebrates and vertebrates. If it doesn't have a backbone, feel free to chew on it.

Czech M8

United States16 Posts

April 23 2012 17:14 GMT

#302

On April 24 2012 02:09 TurkeyKnight wrote:
Jails in America are like businesses these days.

They use fines for revenue, and jail-time as a sort of blackmailing to make people give them their money.

Basically, he ate a fish. What's the difference between chewing it, and it being run through a factory?

You are spot on! I'm ashamed to live in this country.

h0oTiS

United States101 Posts

April 23 2012 17:18 GMT

#303

I don't want to live on this planet anymore, these people realize that we are only a live because of cruelty to other animals, and people pretend that didn't happen, for F#*k's sake its a goldfish people not your sister grow up.

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

April 23 2012 17:22 GMT

#304

I am tempted to post one of my fishing videos where we eat a live tuna right on the boat BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL SO I WON'T.

Cutlery

Norway565 Posts

April 23 2012 17:54 GMT

#305

It would involve discussing how slow of an acidic death it is for the goldfish, and to what degree it feels pain. Anything else isn't remotely fine-worthy. Applying law to the biology of a goldfish. . .

Feel free to have at it, dear lawyers; I'd rather spend my time doing something else.

Cutlery

Norway565 Posts

April 23 2012 17:56 GMT

#306

On April 24 2012 01:38 Clarity_nl wrote:

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So you either want to.... jail cats OR have people behave like cats?

You want to jail this guy for his behaviour ??? what? Preventatively???? sh...

domane

Canada1606 Posts

April 23 2012 17:57 GMT

#307

Non-issue. It was for entertainment/financial purposes but he still ate the goldfish and gained some nutrition from it. It's not like he simply chewed it to death and spat it back out.

Thylacine

Sweden882 Posts

April 23 2012 17:58 GMT

#308

On April 24 2012 02:22 Sinensis wrote:
I am tempted to post one of my fishing videos where we eat a live tuna right on the boat BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL SO I WON'T.

Yup. Be careful.

Cutlery

Norway565 Posts

April 23 2012 18:00 GMT

#309

On April 24 2012 01:45 BearStorm wrote:

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On April 23 2012 19:12 SolHeiM wrote:

On April 23 2012 19:05 BearStorm wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:50 SolHeiM wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:45 BearStorm wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:

On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.

You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.

Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey.

Define amusement. I am sure an acceptable definition would have to be derived from pleasure. I eat meat instead of healthier/cheaper alternatives because of the pleasure I get from the food. How is that different from eating a goldfish? If you think it's because I am eating it for reasons that are not primarily for nourishment, then should I go to jail if I am full and I eat a meaty snack for my amusement from an animal that suffered.

If you go and butcher an animal while it's still alive where your primary reason of butchering the animal is because you think that's a fun thing to do, and you don't give a shit about eating it because hunger is not the reason for killing it, that is what I mean. I mention the torture and cruelty of animals for your own amusement to be disgusting an inhumane.

If you kill an animal quickly and do not let it suffer, then that's alright. But if you let an animal die an agonizing death because you think that's fun, then you're a disgusting person.

I think you have a good heart and your intentions are good. But I think you missed my point. We as humans do not need to eat meat. In fact it is probably more affordable to practice healthy eating while avoiding meat. However I support industries where cattle are slaughtered so that I can eat meat which is more enjoyable. The life of cattle from living conditions to their inevitable slaughter is cruel. It is probably even more cruel than a goldfish being eaten alive. I have an issue seing how you find breeding of animals in cruel conditions and eventually slaughtering them isn't killing them for our amusement. There are alternatives that are healthier, but we rather eat meat because it is more "amusing".

I'm saying I find the torture of animals for your own amusement disgusting. People eat because we need nourishment in order to survive. Killing of animals for food as long as you do it humanely is fine.

You're trying to put words in my mouth by trying to manipulate the word "amusement". I would be hard pressed to find anyone who would say that the cruel conditions in quite a few cattle farms, or whatever you call them, are for our amusement the same way a circus is for our amusement. I don't think anyone who went and watched what happened in those places would find that in any way amusing. If they do, then that's a shame.

I am not putting words in your mouth at all. I am simply pointing out an inconsistency in your arguement. You say it is ok to eat animals because we need nourishment. But we don't need to eat animals for nourishment. The fact that we do is to increase our pleasure. I find it hard to believe eating a goldfish alive for amusement is any worst than eating it because it tastes good. If we had to eat goldfish to survive then I could see the value of your argument, but we have alternatives to food but choose the more pleasurable one.

Mz, "We kill animals in a way that leaves them feeling little pain, so we can eat them for nourishment" is not the same as "we swallow animals alive to let them boil in our stomach's acid."

So putting words in his mouth is exactly what you are doing :p, by interpreting the first part in whichever way you want, and ignoring the second part.

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

April 23 2012 18:01 GMT

#310

On April 24 2012 02:13 nam nam wrote:

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It says why in the article. It's a legal difference between invertebrates and vertebrates. If it doesn't have a backbone, feel free to chew on it.

You have GOT to be kidding me. I'm a legal scholar and have been teaching/researching at the university for 3 years now - and this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard

HomeWorld

Romania903 Posts

April 23 2012 18:07 GMT

#311

RSPCA is jumping the gun on this matter, I bet they have better things to do.

PS: this might look taboo for us (western civilization) but in other parts of the globe it might be quite normal.

mahO

France274 Posts

April 23 2012 18:08 GMT

#312

Is this guy an idiot who tries to get attention because he's too stupid to find something other than post videos of him doing disgusting things? Yes, absolutely, he's a dumb fuck who wants to ride on the youtube explosion.
But such over reaction is even dumber. So as long as we dont see all the cruelty in the food industry it's fine right? Even if documentaries are available etc.
I mean, makes me think of the idiots that go on facebook and whine about animals dying around the world, when they wouldnt even look at a guy dying of hunger at the corner of their street... I guess homeless people arent as cute as pandas, so they deserve to die.
Ban the guy youtube account and put warnings about that kind of videos to avoid a potential multiplication of it, done, but put the guy in prison? rofl

(Mist)

Canada72 Posts

April 23 2012 18:20 GMT

#313

IF this guy goes to jail for 1 gold fish, this kid should go on death row.

newvsoldschool

428 Posts

April 23 2012 18:22 GMT

#314

This sounds like another case of sympathy for animal pets, ergo, if an animal is considered a pet, consuming them is inhumane.

Edit - if you're a carnivore and find this disgusting in any way, shape or form, and contain fast food in your daily diet, please don't reproduce.

-_-Quails

Australia796 Posts

April 23 2012 18:23 GMT

#315

On April 24 2012 03:20 (Mist) wrote:
IF this guy goes to jail for 1 gold fish, this kid show go on death row.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8idhb8W9j80

What did I just watch?

FeUerFlieGe

United States1193 Posts

April 23 2012 18:24 GMT

#316

While they're at it, why doesn't RSCPA arrest the entire meat industry and fishing industry, too?

beachbeachy

United States509 Posts

April 23 2012 18:24 GMT

#317

On April 24 2012 00:55 Clarity_nl wrote:

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Congratulations on posting random facts.
Goldfish are still sentient beings, and thus should be treated with some level of dignity.

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Although I love all the insulting words thrown in at random, I'd like to believe we don't live the same way as we did when we lived in caves.
You think our society is natural? Is it natural for humans to eat animals alive?

Your graphic tale makes me slightly worry for you. I'm happy you have such a vivid imagination, but keep it to yourself perhaps?

Even the unnatural is natural.

(Mist)

Canada72 Posts

April 23 2012 18:25 GMT

#318

On April 24 2012 03:23 -_-Quails wrote:

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What did I just watch?

Some kid chug 36 gold fish.

ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

April 23 2012 18:27 GMT

#319

It's illegal to eat a live goldfish?

Looooooooooooool.

I seem to learn something ridiculous every day. I'd like to see them bring a bear to trial for eating a salmon or something. Wonder how long it takes to become desensitized to the retarded things people seem to want to stand up for.

Maxd11

United States680 Posts

April 23 2012 18:35 GMT

#320

I want him to be punished because I think it would be funny

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This is ridiculous though and he shouldn't have to pay any fine or go to jail.
That said I still want him to be punished because I think it would be funny

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