President Obama Re-Elected - Page 72

On May 01 2012 07:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Stop living in your own little world. Fine Ron Paul might drag this out untill the convention but he will never be able to secure the nomination.
Liking a guy and supporting his ideas is nice but be realistic.

On May 01 2012 07:09 1Eris1 wrote:
Taking bets that Romney wins and Paul does not. I will give you amazing odds, 10 bucks for every dollar you put in. I.E. if you bet 5 dollars and Paul wins, then you get 50. If he does not win I get your 5 dollars.

On May 01 2012 03:22 NeMeSiS3 wrote:


Gah I had a funny feeling that "we killed osama" would be used in the re-election... Call me a consipracy nut, but it does seem rather coincidental that they "finally" find him, he got younger, almost the entire special forces team died weeks later in a helicopter crash, they shot him unarmed, and they dumped his body in the ocean, and showed no proof to anyone that it even happened... SEEEMSS rather odd.

Anywho, cool video nonetheless, I'm sure all of the brainwashed civilians will vote for it, but between Romney and Obama, I mean... Choose between corruption and even more corruption, might as well stay with obama because at least he can put on a nice smile as he lies, and not sound like a neo-bush, intellectually handicapped this one be !

In addition to the members of the Seals, the dead included three Air Force Special Operations members, an Army helicopter crew of five, seven Afghan commandos and an Afghan interpreter. A military dog also died. Among the Seals members were members of the elite counterterrorism unit that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in May, but none of the crash victims were on the Bin Laden mission.

We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.

When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.

“Both sides do it” or “There is plenty of blame to go around” are the traditional refuges for an American news media intent on proving its lack of bias, while political scientists prefer generality and neutrality when discussing partisan polarization. Many self-styled bipartisan groups, in their search for common ground, propose solutions that move both sides to the center, a strategy that is simply untenable when one side is so far out of reach.

It is clear that the center of gravity in the Republican Party has shifted sharply to the right.

On May 01 2012 01:19 paralleluniverse wrote:
Anywho, cool video nonetheless, I'm sure all of the brainwashed civilians will vote for it, but between Romney and Obama, I mean... Choose between corruption and even more corruption, might as well stay with obama because at least he can put on a nice smile as he lies, and not sound like a neo-bush, intellectually handicapped this one be !

Paul and his son, Rand, who was elected to the U.S. Senate from Kentucky with Tea Party support, announced today that they will hold a "major" rally May 6 with the Tea Party Express, one of the largest groups in the anti-tax, small-government movement.

The rally will also feature Senate candidate Ted Cruz, who is among the GOP candidates in the Lone Star state seeking the seat of U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison.

Cruz has been described as the Texas version of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, another Tea Party favorite elected in 2010.

On May 01 2012 07:37 kwizach wrote:
Very good article in the Washington Post summing up what most people already know:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/0/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html

And Republicans in the Senate have abused the confirmation process to block any and every nominee

On May 01 2012 08:48 sc2superfan101 wrote:

that is such a biased article:

1. this claim that pops up every election cycle about "this is the most dysfunctional/partisan it's ever been!" is straight up ridiculous. it is almost always a point that is brought up when discussing why one party is at fault, and it always ignores the millions of times in the past that things have been just as dysfunctional, if not more.

2. what do Democrats (and to a lesser degree Republicans) not understand about their own political leanings? the democratic party is not "center-left". it's not even close to center-left (though some Democrats may be). it has never been center-left. It's right smack dab in the middle of the left. by contrast, the Republican party is not center-right (though some Republicans may be); it is firmly right-wing.

3. i LOVE the attitude that Republicans should be the ones compromising here, and that Democrats can just sit where they are and get whatever they want, because Republicans need to move over and give it to them. i also LOVE the idea that Republican voters are fucking stupid and don't know what we want and that our leaders don't generally represent the majority of the party, a sizable minority of the country.

4.
this is especially sickening. it's called "Borking" someone for a reason.

5. Republicans in the house are not kowtowing to the most extreme wing of the party. not even close.

6. it is a sad, sad day when "insisting on principle, even if it leads to gridlock" is seen as a bad thing, while caving and compromising your principles is seen as a good thing.

7. that they even bring up Bush's name is surprising. that they pretend that what Obama is getting is even close to as bad as what Bush got is hilarious. come back to me when Obama is being accused by reporters of planning 9/11.

the GOP was somewhat fractured in the recent years. the election of Barack Obama to the presidency was a direct result of that fracture, as was the nomination of McCain. however, both of those things, victories for the "establishment" side of the party, were followed by the victory and ascendancy of the conservative Republicans. one side of the party lost and seems to be moving to the right (thank the Lord for it, took plenty of time), while the other side is now in control. the funny thing is that this has happened before, and will happen again, and we're going to be reading basically the same damn article about it in 20 years with the same hollow rhetoric.

On May 01 2012 08:55 kwizach wrote:

The article isn't biased - your reading of it is. See for example the first sentence of your #3, which has literally nothing to do with the content of the article.

On May 01 2012 07:37 kwizach wrote:
Very good article in the Washington Post summing up what most people already know:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/0/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html

On May 01 2012 06:19 kwizach wrote:

Yes, I do think writing "Those are just tid bits of misinformation that mislead large amounts of people and I find it appalling that they do that" makes you sound more assertive than you say you were. I just gave you two links that show your impression/feeling was wrong, though, so do you acknowledge it wasn't misinformation? :-)

On May 01 2012 09:21 Chytilova wrote:


Well I think that's probably one of the best Washington Post articles I've seen. Underlying this article shows one of the weakness of the US Constitution. It necessitates a two-party system which can under certain conditions (like we are seeing today) be extremely detrimental. Of all the things going wrong in this country I'm being convinced more and more that a multi-party system is really essential.

On May 01 2012 08:55 kwizach wrote:

The article isn't biased - your reading of it is. See for example the first sentence of your #3, which has literally nothing to do with the content of the article.

Let’s just say it. After all, that’s what Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein did to the Republicans at the WaPo, apparently set off by this incident:

Although Ornstein and Mann claim to “have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted,” they provide no links to all the op-eds they did about the extreme statements about Republicans being Un-American, comparing them to fascists, Nazis, racists and so on made by Democratic Reps. Nancy Pelosi (on her own and with Steny Hoyer), George Miller, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Jerrold Nadler, Jesse Jackson Jr., Sam Gibbons, Tom Lantos, Keith Ellison, Baron Hill, Jared Polis, Steve Cohen, Sheila Jackson Lee, Eleanor Holmes Norton and Louise Slaughter. Or Senators Robert Byrd and Blanche Lincoln. Or current Califonia governor Jerry Brown. Or repeat offender Al Gore. People might be forgiven for thinking Democrats, not to mention Ornstein and Mann, take that extreme rhetoric for granted in their rush to condemn the GOP.

On May 01 2012 09:37 zachMEISTER wrote:


It's funny how that works huh?. Washington always warned us about falling into a battle of the 2-party system. Stating it was ultimately a bad move, and we should steer away from it.

On May 01 2012 09:37 zachMEISTER wrote:


It's funny how that works huh?. Washington always warned us about falling into a battle of the 2-party system. Stating it was ultimately a bad move, and we should steer away from it.

On May 01 2012 09:55 Smat wrote:

Who cares if the Republican party has shifted to the right. If America doesn't want it then they won't get the votes and the party will change to get votes. If the GOP is so fucking crazy and such an outlier then why do people still vote for them? Answer: because they disagree with the other side regardless of how centrist and compromising that side believes itself to be. Maybe if we all just pull together and vote for democrats 5 elections in a row things will get better right? We should just become a one party state and follow the compromising "good" side..