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On August 10 2012 12:20 DoubleReed wrote:
That Andrea Saul thing really disgusts me. It's such a solid point, and it's so positive toward Romney.
That's the kind of thing that makes me hate politics. The republican party is a party of nonsense.
I never ever thought I would say this... but even Santorum would have been a better candidate than Romney
Huntsman was the best representative for the GOP this time around though
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On August 10 2012 12:20 DoubleReed wrote:
That Andrea Saul thing really disgusts me. It's such a solid point, and it's so positive toward Romney. But it doesn't matter, because it actually might give voters a more correct view of one of Romney's greatest compromises in Massachusetts.
That's the kind of thing that makes me hate politics. The republican party is a party of nonsense.
To be fair, american politics is the politics of nonsense.
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On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house.
Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house?
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On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house?
It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah
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On August 10 2012 12:21 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:20 DoubleReed wrote:
That Andrea Saul thing really disgusts me. It's such a solid point, and it's so positive toward Romney.
That's the kind of thing that makes me hate politics. The republican party is a party of nonsense. I never ever thought I would say this... but even Santorum would have been a better candidate than Romney Huntsman was the best representative for the GOP this time around though
Are you kidding me? Huntsman wasn't a nutcase. His rhetoric was about talking about how terrible all this divisive attitudes in politics are.
You clearly haven't been paying attention to the GOP if you think he was at all representative of anything. Romney is a fantastic representative. Bought and paid for.
It just depresses me how dishonest this all has to be. I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest.
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On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:
I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest.
Who would vote for an honest person...?
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On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah
Usually I would rather blame the system than the person, but if you are running for president that really doesn't apply. It is definitly wrong to be a capitalist pig and run for president while paying lower % of taxes than middle class people while trying to desperately cover it all up.
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On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house?
The problem is that Mitt's tax returns are undoubtedly going to show that he pays taxes on only a fraction of his actual income, due to offshore accounts and much of his income coming from dividends.
It'll be a great talking point for Democrats.
Republicans like to say class warfare is unfair and unjustified, despite all the facts that show how the gap between classes is increasingly growing. Romney's tax returns will tell a story of how the rich get every break, and yet still he wants to cut their taxes.
So I don't feel sorry that people sling mud and blind accusations at "what Romney is hiding". It's the entire GOP that is hiding. Class warfare exists because the inequality is becoming more and more disgusting and inexcusable. You can't talk about "trickle down economics" when people like Romney are trickling their wealth into Swiss bank accounts.
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On August 10 2012 12:27 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:
I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest. Who would vote for an honest person...?
Humorously, I would
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On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah
I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo.
I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes?
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I really think Romney has, for the most part, obeyed tax law. It's just that he's able to do so much within the confines of the law that it highlights a bigger problem with policies and bills he would suggest and/or support as President.
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On August 10 2012 12:28 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah Usually I would rather blame the system than the person, but if you are running for president that really doesn't apply.
Yes, of course. I consistently have advocated the position that the moral failings of individuals are not really worth thinking about.
A candidate for office, however, ceases to be a private person. He is a symbol.
On August 10 2012 12:30 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:27 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:
I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest. Who would vote for an honest person...? Humorously, I would
Yes, only us philosophers 
On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo.
I don't know if you're calling hitler a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "mass murderer," then it would be really hard to come close to his bodycount still. He's really impressive imo.
(edit: not comparing him to hitler, just demonstrating the inanity of your position)
I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes?
"man who"
(edit: oh, thank you, overlord, that's a very nice library you built with the surplus you appropriated from my labor...)
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On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo. I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes?
Here it is. Let's shift the burden of schools, street maintenance, police, fire protection, hospitalization and public works to the middle class, as Romney's tax plan will plainly do, and then give the richest of the rich as many ways to not pay for that burden, so that way they can build us all libraries!!! Why build public libraries with taxes when we have so many altruistic rich people? 300 privately-funded libraries!!!? That's amazing. I would love to read a source that even verifies 300 privately-funded, open-public, general-reading libraries exist in America, let alone all 300 of them being started by one lady and her dividend checks out of the goodness of her elderly heart.
Source, now, or that is just some hilarious right-wing nuttery.
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On August 10 2012 12:36 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:28 biology]major wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah Usually I would rather blame the system than the person, but if you are running for president that really doesn't apply. Yes, of course. I consistently have advocated the position that the moral failings of individuals are not really worth thinking about. A candidate for office, however, ceases to be a private person. He is a symbol. Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:30 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:27 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:
I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest. Who would vote for an honest person...? Humorously, I would Yes, only us philosophers Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo. I don't know if you're calling hitler a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "mass murderer," then it would be really hard to come close to his bodycount still. He's really impressive imo. (edit: not comparing him to hitler, just demonstrating the inanity of your position) Show nested quote +
I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes?
"man who" (edit: oh, thank you, overlord, that's a very nice library you built with the surplus you appropriated from my labor...)
Not sure why you're comparing him to Hitler. Don't you think that's a bit extreme?
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On August 10 2012 12:35 aksfjh wrote:
I really think Romney has, for the most part, obeyed tax law. It's just that he's able to do so much within the confines of the law that it highlights a bigger problem with policies and bills he would suggest and/or support as President.
This is almost certainly the case. I would not be surprised if there have been years where Romney paid less than 10% by abusing offshore loopholes and various deductions intended to stabilize and give incentives to the middle class but commonly abused by the rich.
This is the fundamental flaw of the current regulatory system. We, for some reason, have no problem segregating the poor structurally within the regulatory system but any benefit a guy at 70k a year gets has to be given to a guy making 100 million. Tax breaks for home/property ownership for example are designed to essentially be subsidies for the middle class. The rich have no place getting these benefits.
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On August 10 2012 12:41 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:36 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:28 biology]major wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah Usually I would rather blame the system than the person, but if you are running for president that really doesn't apply. Yes, of course. I consistently have advocated the position that the moral failings of individuals are not really worth thinking about. A candidate for office, however, ceases to be a private person. He is a symbol. On August 10 2012 12:30 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:27 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:
I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest. Who would vote for an honest person...? Humorously, I would Yes, only us philosophers On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo. I don't know if you're calling hitler a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "mass murderer," then it would be really hard to come close to his bodycount still. He's really impressive imo. (edit: not comparing him to hitler, just demonstrating the inanity of your position)
I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes?
"man who" (edit: oh, thank you, overlord, that's a very nice library you built with the surplus you appropriated from my labor...) Not sure why you're comparing him to Hitler. Don't you think that's a bit extreme?
I feel that I addressed this point, if you'll look in the text you quoted
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On August 10 2012 12:42 Velocirapture wrote:
The rich have no place getting these benefits.
But then who will give us all the jobs?
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On August 10 2012 12:47 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:42 Velocirapture wrote:
The rich have no place getting these benefits. But then who will give us all the jobs?
I'll make them. It's possible for me, as it appears that jobs are created by one person without any help.
Dunno why people complain about not being able to find jobs.
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On August 10 2012 12:41 Leporello wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo. I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes? Here it is. Let's shift the burden of schools, street maintenance, police, fire protection, hospitalization and public works to the middle class, as Romney's tax plan will plainly do, and then give the richest of the rich as many ways to not pay for that burden, so that way they can build us all libraries!!! Why build public libraries with taxes when we have so many altruistic rich people? 300 privately-funded libraries!!!? That's amazing. I would love to read a source that even verifies 300 privately-funded, open-public libraries exist in America, let alone all 300 of them being started by one lady and her dividend checks out of the goodness of her elderly heart. Source, now.
You don't think kids from poorer communities should have an equal opportunity as you? You don't think crime goes down as there become more intellectuals? What about less fires? What about the homeless? Is it wrong for them to cool down in the library during a hot summer day? Is it wrong for him to use a computer to write a resume?
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On August 10 2012 12:26 DoubleReed wrote:It just depresses me how dishonest this all has to be. I see no reasons at all why politicians have to be dishonest.
Seems rather obvious. The average American voter is not that bright.
On August 10 2012 12:48 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2012 12:41 Leporello wrote:On August 10 2012 12:34 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:On August 10 2012 12:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:18 JinDesu wrote:On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate? People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\ You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories? Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities? I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate. I mean, things like deducting horse expenses. And a car elevator garage. And a multimillion dollar house. Are you an accountant? What are horse expenses? Is it wrong if some one buys an expensive house? It's wrong if the way you do it is by being a capitalist pig, yeah I don't know if you're calling him a try hard or what. I just think that even if you tried to be a "capitalist pig," then it would be really hard to come close to his salary still. He's really impressive imo. I know a woman who is 84 years old now. She was making about 2 million a year just from dividends. She paid next to nothing in taxes, but she also started over 300 libraries in her life time. Should you criticize her for paying hardly any taxes? Here it is. Let's shift the burden of schools, street maintenance, police, fire protection, hospitalization and public works to the middle class, as Romney's tax plan will plainly do, and then give the richest of the rich as many ways to not pay for that burden, so that way they can build us all libraries!!! Why build public libraries with taxes when we have so many altruistic rich people? 300 privately-funded libraries!!!? That's amazing. I would love to read a source that even verifies 300 privately-funded, open-public libraries exist in America, let alone all 300 of them being started by one lady and her dividend checks out of the goodness of her elderly heart. Source, now. You don't think kids from poorer communities should have an equal opportunity as you? You don't think crime goes down as there become more intellectuals? What about less fires? What about the homeless? Is it wrong for them to cool down in the library during a hot summer day? Is it wrong for him to use a computer to write a resume?
You should try to stop missing all of the points of all the replies to your posts.
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