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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
August 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#5221
On August 10 2012 11:11 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:46 Defacer wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:38 Nymphaceae wrote:
Does anyone get the feeling that Romney is just far smarter than Obama, and that Obama is hiding a lot of secrets?


Does anyone get the feeling that the only reason Romney actually has no agenda other than doing or saying whatever it takes to become president, in order to one-up his father?

Or that Romney is actually a spineless flip-flopping wuss that has no control of or respect from the GOP, and if he were elected it would a disaster?



Don't you ever wonder that by Romney not telling his agenda would be better than him telling it. Like his agenda is good, but if it were known, then it would hurt the country as a whole, but if it were unknown, then it would benefit the country greatly?

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I just feel like Obama is really secretive about things like his GPA, his birth certificate, and other basic things that would be required for a resume, but when you look at Romney, they ask him for very personal things, like his taxes. Does that not seem wrong to you?



dat fox news brain control
Question.?
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
August 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#5222
On August 10 2012 11:16 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:11 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:46 Defacer wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:38 Nymphaceae wrote:
Does anyone get the feeling that Romney is just far smarter than Obama, and that Obama is hiding a lot of secrets?


Does anyone get the feeling that the only reason Romney actually has no agenda other than doing or saying whatever it takes to become president, in order to one-up his father?

Or that Romney is actually a spineless flip-flopping wuss that has no control of or respect from the GOP, and if he were elected it would a disaster?



Don't you ever wonder that by Romney not telling his agenda would be better than him telling it. Like his agenda is good, but if it were known, then it would hurt the country as a whole, but if it were unknown, then it would benefit the country greatly?

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I just feel like Obama is really secretive about things like his GPA, his birth certificate, and other basic things that would be required for a resume, but when you look at Romney, they ask him for very personal things, like his taxes. Does that not seem wrong to you?


Uhm. Birth certificate isn't personal? Pretty sure that's as personal as you can get. And he produced it too.

And if tax returns being asked of a nominee has been the norm since 88.


Is it really that personal? Have you ever had a job? For most jobs you have to present your social security/birth certificate/passport. I would be kind of interested to see what their passports look like. Don't you think it would be interesting to ask them what they were doing out of the country during some time? What if we elected a president that has never been out of the country? Doesn't that make you worry some? What if the president lied about going to school, having a family, and having a successful job?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 10 2012 02:31 GMT
#5223
On August 10 2012 11:26 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:16 JinDesu wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:11 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:46 Defacer wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:38 Nymphaceae wrote:
Does anyone get the feeling that Romney is just far smarter than Obama, and that Obama is hiding a lot of secrets?


Does anyone get the feeling that the only reason Romney actually has no agenda other than doing or saying whatever it takes to become president, in order to one-up his father?

Or that Romney is actually a spineless flip-flopping wuss that has no control of or respect from the GOP, and if he were elected it would a disaster?



Don't you ever wonder that by Romney not telling his agenda would be better than him telling it. Like his agenda is good, but if it were known, then it would hurt the country as a whole, but if it were unknown, then it would benefit the country greatly?

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I just feel like Obama is really secretive about things like his GPA, his birth certificate, and other basic things that would be required for a resume, but when you look at Romney, they ask him for very personal things, like his taxes. Does that not seem wrong to you?


Uhm. Birth certificate isn't personal? Pretty sure that's as personal as you can get. And he produced it too.

And if tax returns being asked of a nominee has been the norm since 88.


Is it really that personal? Have you ever had a job? For most jobs you have to present your social security/birth certificate/passport. I would be kind of interested to see what their passports look like. Don't you think it would be interesting to ask them what they were doing out of the country during some time? What if we elected a president that has never been out of the country? Doesn't that make you worry some? What if the president lied about going to school, having a family, and having a successful job?


except he produced his birth certificate.

what if romney was really a vegan woman who had a sex change when he was a young boy after he bullied the "gay kid?!"

yea i bet obama lied about going to school and he's really ET
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#5224
Taxes are not personal...

that is just money-taboo liberal ideology
shikata ga nai
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#5225
On August 10 2012 11:26 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:16 JinDesu wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:11 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:46 Defacer wrote:
On August 10 2012 10:38 Nymphaceae wrote:
Does anyone get the feeling that Romney is just far smarter than Obama, and that Obama is hiding a lot of secrets?


Does anyone get the feeling that the only reason Romney actually has no agenda other than doing or saying whatever it takes to become president, in order to one-up his father?

Or that Romney is actually a spineless flip-flopping wuss that has no control of or respect from the GOP, and if he were elected it would a disaster?



Don't you ever wonder that by Romney not telling his agenda would be better than him telling it. Like his agenda is good, but if it were known, then it would hurt the country as a whole, but if it were unknown, then it would benefit the country greatly?

I'm sorry if I offended you, but I just feel like Obama is really secretive about things like his GPA, his birth certificate, and other basic things that would be required for a resume, but when you look at Romney, they ask him for very personal things, like his taxes. Does that not seem wrong to you?


Uhm. Birth certificate isn't personal? Pretty sure that's as personal as you can get. And he produced it too.

And if tax returns being asked of a nominee has been the norm since 88.


Is it really that personal? Have you ever had a job? For most jobs you have to present your social security/birth certificate/passport. I would be kind of interested to see what their passports look like. Don't you think it would be interesting to ask them what they were doing out of the country during some time? What if we elected a president that has never been out of the country? Doesn't that make you worry some? What if the president lied about going to school, having a family, and having a successful job?


I do have a job. They didn't ask for those.

Re: "what if the president lied about going to school, having a family, and having a successful job?"
Er - what if the president lied about his taxes?
Yargh
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#5226
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
August 10 2012 02:36 GMT
#5227
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?


The more important and somewhat scary question for this election is whether you think someone could succesfully run for the presidency without paying any taxes for a decade? I am not saying this is truth but whether it is possible.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 02:42:21
August 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#5228
Paul Ryan's budget, if implemented, would hasten the self destruction of the republican party. As they would alienate the most reliable of voters. Senior citizen's. Who are already aware of his plans for Medicare, last year he couldn't do any town halls due to be called out by said citizens.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2012 02:41 GMT
#5229
On August 10 2012 11:36 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?


The more important and somewhat scary question for this election is whether you think someone could succesfully run for the presidency without paying any taxes for a decade? I am not saying this is truth but whether it is possible.


I don't personally think he didn't pay taxes. I think he's more afraid that his tax returns will show some absurdly low, yet legal, numbers that would really turn the middle class against him.

Especially if you get a good media spin on it.
Yargh
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
August 10 2012 02:53 GMT
#5230
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 10 2012 03:00 GMT
#5231
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
August 10 2012 03:01 GMT
#5232
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

Are you suggesting that Romney has in fact managed to get away with tax fraud because he is so smart?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#5233
On August 10 2012 12:01 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

Are you suggesting that Romney has in fact managed to get away with tax fraud because he is so smart?


He may be onto something here. It's all starting to make sense.
Yargh
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:06:16
August 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#5234
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

So you're saying Romney's a good candidate because he's better at doing illegal things than the rest of us? O_O

And by the way, I've had jobs too and they never asked for birth certificate. The most personal thing they asked for was my SSN for paychecks/taxes.

And, by the way, Obama never "hid" his birth certificate. When you run for the presidency you have to show proof that you qualify to be a candidate, one of which is given in the form of a birth certificate. Even then, Obama did produce his birth certificate for the public after like what? A month? Revealing tax forms has been more common in the past than revealing birth certificates btw.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#5235
Uhhh... guys, Nymphaceae is being ironic.

At least I think he is...
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 10 2012 03:08 GMT
#5236
On August 10 2012 12:07 DoubleReed wrote:
Uhhh... guys, Nymphaceae is being ironic.

At least I think he is...


I think he is way smarter than all of us
shikata ga nai
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
August 10 2012 03:15 GMT
#5237
On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories?

Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities?

JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 10 2012 03:18 GMT
#5238
On August 10 2012 12:15 Nymphaceae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 12:00 Jumbled wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:53 Nymphaceae wrote:
On August 10 2012 11:33 aksfjh wrote:
Do you really think somebody could run for the Presidency without a full background check, including inspecting the birth certificate?

People get away with tax fraud all the time...This is kind of why I'm saying Romney is several steps ahead of everyone. People want to try to feel like they're close to his level, but to be honest, I strongly believe he's way over all of our heads. :\

You're perfectly entitled to feel Romney is cleverer than you, but I doubt it applies to everyone else. Did you have anything to offer the thread other than defunct conspiracy theories?

Would you come close to his salary if you didn't pay taxes? Would Obama come close? Is it wrong if he pays a lower percentage, because he makes donations to charities?



I don't think you have any idea how he gets his low tax rate.

I mean, things like deducting horse expenses.

And a car elevator garage.

And a multimillion dollar house.
Yargh
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:21:37
August 10 2012 03:20 GMT
#5239
That Andrea Saul thing really disgusts me. It's such a solid point, and it's so positive toward Romney. But it doesn't matter, because it actually might give voters a more correct view of one of Romney's greatest compromises in Massachusetts.

That's the kind of thing that makes me hate politics. The republican party is a party of nonsense.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 03:20:46
August 10 2012 03:20 GMT
#5240
What is your point about this?
shikata ga nai
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