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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 17:07:09
June 26 2012 17:06 GMT
#3161
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/missouri-dem-senator-may-skip-partys-convention_647860.html

... and this comes on top of the democrat governor coming out against Obamacare.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 17:10:26
June 26 2012 17:10 GMT
#3162
On June 27 2012 02:06 xDaunt wrote:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/missouri-dem-senator-may-skip-partys-convention_647860.html

... and this comes on top of the democrat governor coming out against Obamacare.

That article makes it clear that the senator from Missouri has been skipping party functions for a while now, nothing new there. And the article ends on a totally bullshit opinion. And a governor you say? I still fail to see how any of this ends up being significant, there are mitigating factors in almost every case.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Arghnews
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom169 Posts
June 26 2012 17:11 GMT
#3163
People of America, please, don't vote for Romney, oh God please don't...
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 17:16:31
June 26 2012 17:16 GMT
#3164
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
June 27 2012 00:53 GMT
#3165
On June 27 2012 02:16 farvacola wrote:
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.


That's not surprising really.

CO2 emission control by the EPA is hardly "arbitrary and capricious."

To meet that standard, the court would have to basically rule that there is no evidence that CO2 is destructive to the environment to some extent, which I think even non-global warming people wouldn't be on board with.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 27 2012 01:24 GMT
#3166
On June 27 2012 09:53 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 02:16 farvacola wrote:
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.


That's not surprising really.

CO2 emission control by the EPA is hardly "arbitrary and capricious."

To meet that standard, the court would have to basically rule that there is no evidence that CO2 is destructive to the environment to some extent, which I think even non-global warming people wouldn't be on board with.

Yeah, the only way to fix it is to have Congress remove CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 21:04:24
June 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#3167
This is a little surprising ... Rush Limbaugh calling out Romney for his evasiveness.

Rush Limbaugh had some harsh words for Mitt Romney on Tuesday, over the candidate's response to the Supreme Court's immigration ruling.

The court recently determined that certain parts of Arizona's controversial immigration policy are unconstitutional. Romney was criticized for his late and vague response to the decision. He said that he "would have preferred to see the Supreme Court give more latitude to the states."

On Tuesday, Limbaugh expressed his frustration with Romney's reaction, calling it "tepid" and a "red flag" for the campaign. The radio host declared that "Mitt Romney blew it" with his response.

"The Romney campaign was not ready for primetime on this illegal immigration Arizona decision," Limbaugh insisted, noting that it was the first time he thought that in a while. He added that he thought the campaign has been doing a "superb job" rapidly responding to new developments.

He argued that immigration was too important an issue for Romney to hold back on. "You can't live off of Obama's gaffes, like the economy's doing fine... forever," he said. "You gotta be a proud, eloquent defender of the Constitution when your opponent is stomping all over it."


I think this may be the only time ever in the history and future of humankind that I kind-of-sort-of agree with Rush Limbaugh.

Romney missed an opportunity to demonstrate his leadership ability by tepidly responding to this issue. If this is what his presidency will be like -- avoiding difficult decisions, backpedalling and constantly covering his own ass first -- I don't see how he would be an upgrade over Obama.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22369 Posts
June 27 2012 21:18 GMT
#3168
The problem with romey is he comes over as an empty shell, there is nothing in there unless its put in by the GOP/rich people/corperations.

He is the prime example of a puppet president i have seen in a while.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
June 27 2012 21:23 GMT
#3169
On June 28 2012 06:03 Defacer wrote:
This is a little surprising ... Rush Limbaugh calling out Romney for his evasiveness.

Show nested quote +
Rush Limbaugh had some harsh words for Mitt Romney on Tuesday, over the candidate's response to the Supreme Court's immigration ruling.

The court recently determined that certain parts of Arizona's controversial immigration policy are unconstitutional. Romney was criticized for his late and vague response to the decision. He said that he "would have preferred to see the Supreme Court give more latitude to the states."

On Tuesday, Limbaugh expressed his frustration with Romney's reaction, calling it "tepid" and a "red flag" for the campaign. The radio host declared that "Mitt Romney blew it" with his response.

"The Romney campaign was not ready for primetime on this illegal immigration Arizona decision," Limbaugh insisted, noting that it was the first time he thought that in a while. He added that he thought the campaign has been doing a "superb job" rapidly responding to new developments.

He argued that immigration was too important an issue for Romney to hold back on. "You can't live off of Obama's gaffes, like the economy's doing fine... forever," he said. "You gotta be a proud, eloquent defender of the Constitution when your opponent is stomping all over it."


I think this may be the only time ever in the history and future of humankind that I kind-of-sort-of agree with Rush Limbaugh.

Romney missed an opportunity to demonstrate his leadership ability by tepidly responding to this issue. If this is what his presidency will be like -- avoiding difficult decisions, backpedalling and constantly covering his own ass first -- I don't see how he would be an upgrade over Obama.

That's why republicans spent so much time looking at crappy alternatives like Cain, Gingrich, Santorum..... They've known from the beginning that Romney is as boring and vanilla of a candidate as they could ever hope to muster. But he's squeaky clean and very careful, and I guess that matters more in American politics these days where the media crucifies people for the smallest blemishes.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 21:24:40
June 27 2012 21:24 GMT
#3170
On June 28 2012 06:03 Defacer wrote:
This is a little surprising ... Rush Limbaugh calling out Romney for his evasiveness.

Show nested quote +
Rush Limbaugh had some harsh words for Mitt Romney on Tuesday, over the candidate's response to the Supreme Court's immigration ruling.

The court recently determined that certain parts of Arizona's controversial immigration policy are unconstitutional. Romney was criticized for his late and vague response to the decision. He said that he "would have preferred to see the Supreme Court give more latitude to the states."

On Tuesday, Limbaugh expressed his frustration with Romney's reaction, calling it "tepid" and a "red flag" for the campaign. The radio host declared that "Mitt Romney blew it" with his response.

"The Romney campaign was not ready for primetime on this illegal immigration Arizona decision," Limbaugh insisted, noting that it was the first time he thought that in a while. He added that he thought the campaign has been doing a "superb job" rapidly responding to new developments.

He argued that immigration was too important an issue for Romney to hold back on. "You can't live off of Obama's gaffes, like the economy's doing fine... forever," he said. "You gotta be a proud, eloquent defender of the Constitution when your opponent is stomping all over it."


I think this may be the only time ever in the history and future of humankind that I kind-of-sort-of agree with Rush Limbaugh.

Romney missed an opportunity to demonstrate his leadership ability by tepidly responding to this issue. If this is what his presidency will be like -- avoiding difficult decisions, backpedalling and constantly covering his own ass first -- I don't see how he would be an upgrade over Obama.

When your campaign would do well to listen to political strategy advice from Rush Limbaugh,________________________.

You fill out the rest
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 21:30:47
June 27 2012 21:29 GMT
#3171
On June 27 2012 10:24 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 09:53 BluePanther wrote:
On June 27 2012 02:16 farvacola wrote:
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.


That's not surprising really.

CO2 emission control by the EPA is hardly "arbitrary and capricious."

To meet that standard, the court would have to basically rule that there is no evidence that CO2 is destructive to the environment to some extent, which I think even non-global warming people wouldn't be on board with.

Yeah, the only way to fix it is to have Congress remove CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction.


Why would removing CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction be a good thing?

On June 28 2012 06:23 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 06:03 Defacer wrote:
This is a little surprising ... Rush Limbaugh calling out Romney for his evasiveness.

Rush Limbaugh had some harsh words for Mitt Romney on Tuesday, over the candidate's response to the Supreme Court's immigration ruling.

The court recently determined that certain parts of Arizona's controversial immigration policy are unconstitutional. Romney was criticized for his late and vague response to the decision. He said that he "would have preferred to see the Supreme Court give more latitude to the states."

On Tuesday, Limbaugh expressed his frustration with Romney's reaction, calling it "tepid" and a "red flag" for the campaign. The radio host declared that "Mitt Romney blew it" with his response.

"The Romney campaign was not ready for primetime on this illegal immigration Arizona decision," Limbaugh insisted, noting that it was the first time he thought that in a while. He added that he thought the campaign has been doing a "superb job" rapidly responding to new developments.

He argued that immigration was too important an issue for Romney to hold back on. "You can't live off of Obama's gaffes, like the economy's doing fine... forever," he said. "You gotta be a proud, eloquent defender of the Constitution when your opponent is stomping all over it."


I think this may be the only time ever in the history and future of humankind that I kind-of-sort-of agree with Rush Limbaugh.

Romney missed an opportunity to demonstrate his leadership ability by tepidly responding to this issue. If this is what his presidency will be like -- avoiding difficult decisions, backpedalling and constantly covering his own ass first -- I don't see how he would be an upgrade over Obama.

That's why republicans spent so much time looking at crappy alternatives like Cain, Gingrich, Santorum..... They've known from the beginning that Romney is as boring and vanilla of a candidate as they could ever hope to muster. But he's squeaky clean and very careful, and I guess that matters more in American politics these days where the media crucifies people for the smallest blemishes.


He's really not all that careful, considering the gaffes he's had so far.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 27 2012 21:34 GMT
#3172
On June 28 2012 06:29 sunprince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 10:24 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2012 09:53 BluePanther wrote:
On June 27 2012 02:16 farvacola wrote:
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.


That's not surprising really.

CO2 emission control by the EPA is hardly "arbitrary and capricious."

To meet that standard, the court would have to basically rule that there is no evidence that CO2 is destructive to the environment to some extent, which I think even non-global warming people wouldn't be on board with.

Yeah, the only way to fix it is to have Congress remove CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction.


Why would removing CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction be a good thing?

Because I'd rather the EPA not pass bullshit CO2 regulations that unnecessarily hamper the American economy.
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 21:53:13
June 27 2012 21:39 GMT
#3173
On June 28 2012 06:34 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 06:29 sunprince wrote:
On June 27 2012 10:24 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2012 09:53 BluePanther wrote:
On June 27 2012 02:16 farvacola wrote:
Also this just in, another victory for the Obama administration via the courts, this time in regards to EPA regulations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/26/usa-co2-ruling-idUSL2E8HQAY620120626
Although the healthcare decision will certainly be the lynchpin, I'm surprised at how favorably the courts have been ruling for Democrats thus far.


That's not surprising really.

CO2 emission control by the EPA is hardly "arbitrary and capricious."

To meet that standard, the court would have to basically rule that there is no evidence that CO2 is destructive to the environment to some extent, which I think even non-global warming people wouldn't be on board with.

Yeah, the only way to fix it is to have Congress remove CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction.


Why would removing CO2 from the EPA's jurisdiction be a good thing?

Because I'd rather the EPA not pass bullshit CO2 regulations that unnecessarily hamper the American economy.


We should let businesses dump toxic waste anywhere they want, too. Restricting them would unnecessarily hamper the American economy. /sarcasm

If anyting, the EPA is extremely business friendly, to the point that it's been sued for being influenced by political appointees instead of legitimate science.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
June 27 2012 21:45 GMT
#3174

The biggest (and it really is huge) thing that Obama has going for him is that US Gas prices are in a free-fall heading into the summer months.

$3.25ish or so heading to $3.00/gallon on average. Some states like SC are at $3.00.

That kind of shows that he's not sitting comfortably right now... $3.00 gas and he should be coasting...piling up all the undecideds/moderates.

Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
June 27 2012 21:50 GMT
#3175
Here in swing state virginia my gas is already below $3 and still dropping. It's nice, hope it continues.

Thanks election year!
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 22:02:55
June 27 2012 22:02 GMT
#3176
Totally disagree with Limbaugh. Romney can't alienate Hispanics if he wants to win the swing states. Of course it may be hopeless by now.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 27 2012 22:11 GMT
#3177
On June 28 2012 07:02 DoubleReed wrote:
Totally disagree with Limbaugh. Romney can't alienate Hispanics if he wants to win the swing states. Of course it may be hopeless by now.

I think he can because he'll take the white majority vote by a huge margin.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
June 27 2012 22:46 GMT
#3178
On June 28 2012 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:02 DoubleReed wrote:
Totally disagree with Limbaugh. Romney can't alienate Hispanics if he wants to win the swing states. Of course it may be hopeless by now.

I think he can because he'll take the white majority vote by a huge margin.


i really dont think whites are going to vote for romeny as much as people say they are

unless you have polling that says otherwise? none rasmusian(sp?) polling
No Artosis, you are robin
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 27 2012 22:50 GMT
#3179
On June 28 2012 07:46 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
On June 28 2012 07:02 DoubleReed wrote:
Totally disagree with Limbaugh. Romney can't alienate Hispanics if he wants to win the swing states. Of course it may be hopeless by now.

I think he can because he'll take the white majority vote by a huge margin.


i really dont think whites are going to vote for romeny as much as people say they are

unless you have polling that says otherwise? none rasmusian(sp?) polling


I can't find the link, but Rasmussen released a poll a couple weeks ago showing Obama with support among whites down in the 30s and Romney with white support in the 60s.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
June 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3180
On June 28 2012 07:50 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 07:46 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 28 2012 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
On June 28 2012 07:02 DoubleReed wrote:
Totally disagree with Limbaugh. Romney can't alienate Hispanics if he wants to win the swing states. Of course it may be hopeless by now.

I think he can because he'll take the white majority vote by a huge margin.


i really dont think whites are going to vote for romeny as much as people say they are

unless you have polling that says otherwise? none rasmusian(sp?) polling


I can't find the link, but Rasmussen released a poll a couple weeks ago showing Obama with support among whites down in the 30s and Romney with white support in the 60s.


i trust rasmussen polling as much as you trust polling from HP

they are both just way to biased to be considered legit
No Artosis, you are robin
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