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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:22 Mysticesper wrote: I hope it doesn't go to a recount in florida, which is apparently mandated if it's a 1% or less margin. Florida might need a recount; however, Obama's electoral count will render it inconsequential. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:23 jpak wrote: Recount might occur if the margin is too close. Then we gotta sit through the week while they count every single vote all over again. it might not matter if Ohio goes clearly obama. try as florida might, they might not give us a headache this time around! | ||
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imareaver3
United States906 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:22 Chriscras wrote: Romney lost Florida though right? Based on the districts still left to report? Based on the fact that Miami-Dade and Broward haven't reported with Obama still up, and based on the fact that Obama leads in Hillsborough County (Tampa, a good bellwether) by 5 points with 85% reporting, Democrats have reason to be cautious and optimistic. But there are still some large Republican counties in the Florida Panhandle that haven't reported either. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:24 MicroTastiC wrote: Future prices surged today, a clear indication that Mr. Romney will take the election. Excellent analysis. lawl. | ||
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deus.machinarum
Austria658 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:22 jpak wrote: Pretty much. Older retirees tend to lean Republican, while the non-Cuban minority groups lean mostly Democrat. Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:21 deus.machinarum wrote: Could somebody with insight(i.e. someone from the US ^^) explain as to why FL is always so close? Is it really just immigrants vs. retired people? (as somebody posted recently) Cubans(huge population in the south) are scared of Democrats for a number of years because Republicans successfully labeled them as "communists" which to them equals Castro. These are all old people who lost everything because of Fidel and Republicans have successfully convinced them that voting Democrat is tantamount to voting for Communism. I saw it with my grandparents and all our relatives. You hear it all the time on Spanish radio. Good thing though is that generation will be gone soon enough and that "issue" will be gone for the majority of Cubans. The majority of young Cubans and Hispanics in general are Democratic. White population becoming more and more minority. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
edit: Nevermind... Apparently, it is for the same reason as why WY is going to Romney even though no votes there have been counted yet... | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 deus.machinarum wrote: Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) Old people are generally more conservative than young people. It's like this everywhere. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
its all over now if obama takes one of the two | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:15 paralleluniverse wrote: ABC projects that Republicans will hold the House. Any thoughts on what the likely causes are given that Congress has such a low approval rating, and people seem to be voting Democrat for the president? Is it all just redistricting? It's a function of 2006 being a change election in which the Democrats picked up a lot of seats. Then in 2008 they picked up even more seats on the President's coattails. While the Republicans picked up a record number of seats in 2010, a large portion of it was a correction back to where the house typically stands. The rest was the anger against Obamacare, etc. Even without redistricting the GOP would have likely held the house, that they are probably going to pick up a seat or two is a function of the redistricting. Depending on what gets done in the next two years we'll probably see the house get closer in 2014 and then go along with the Presidential race in 2016. I expect the earliest the Democrats have a real shot at getting the house back will be 2016, but 2018 is probably more likely. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:24 farvacola wrote: Florida might need a recount; however, Obama's electoral count will render it inconsequential. Yes, this is probably the most likely outcome. I'm quite sure Florida will be less than a 1% split. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 deus.machinarum wrote: Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) As a rule people tend to get more conservative when they get older, in particular on social issues. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 ggrrg wrote: I do not understand how why so many people here claim that Obama already won PA!? At all sites I look, it says that less than 10% of the votes have been counted. because stations are calling it based off information we dont have | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 deus.machinarum wrote: Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) Fiscal conservatives and a lot of other bad things that people would get mad at me for saying. On November 07 2012 11:26 HopLight wrote: As a rule people tend to get more conservative when they get older, in particular on social issues. No, people tend to have the same mentality as they get older, which transpires with their views becoming increasingly conservative relative to the era. | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 ggrrg wrote: I do not understand how why so many people here claim that Obama already won PA!? At all sites I look, it says that less than 10% of the votes have been counted. Its been called for Obama means he won it...votes counted is irellevant | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 deus.machinarum wrote: Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) A large number of hispanics (by which I mean Mexicans specifically) are Roman Catholic, who could vote red. | ||
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wozzot
United States1227 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:25 deus.machinarum wrote: Hmmmm, kay. I get minority groups leaning towards the Democrats, not entirely sure why the older generation as a whole would favor the Republicans. (NOT a pro democrat statement, just wondering) No new taxes! I want the government to keep my hands off my Medicare! Also those Dems support rights for brown people and the gays, who are obviously a threat to the social fabric of America because | ||
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