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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
November 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#24741
That Florida ballot paper reminds me of Australia's state ballot paper.

[image loading]

Its a table cloth.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
November 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#24742
On November 07 2012 06:16 ragnasaur wrote:
If Obama wins tonight im drinking tequilla!
im Romney wins im drinking beer D:

Dont think it will be clear till a weeks time -.-
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#24743
Just voted make sure you do your part. Your vote counts
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 06 2012 21:18 GMT
#24744
My Prediction:
Obama: 303
Romney: 235 (taking Florida (by a very narrow margin) and NC okay)

Obama 50%
Romney 48%
Third parties 3%
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
November 06 2012 21:19 GMT
#24745
Everyone I have talked to today has voted for Romney. I'm scared. lol.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 06 2012 21:19 GMT
#24746
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!

For EC I'm going with:

Obama - 303
Romney - 235

The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
November 06 2012 21:19 GMT
#24747
hmm, I watched like 20 minutes of CNN, they now had interviews with two guys on the rep side and two on the democrats side and every single one tells Blitzer how turnout on their side is greater than expected and that they don't see the same on the other side...

god that's annoying... lol
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
November 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#24748
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!

I can't say I've agreed with you on very much, but you are a credit to a robust if not partisan discussion.

As to your predictions, I think you're a + Show Spoiler +
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DocTheMedic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States79 Posts
November 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#24749
On November 07 2012 06:19 Nesto wrote:
hmm, I watched like 20 minutes of CNN, they now had interviews with two guys on the rep side and two on the democrats side and every single one tells Blitzer how turnout on their side is greater than expected and that they don't see the same on the other side...

god that's annoying... lol


Making conclusions based off of anecdotal stories is usually annoying and ends up inconclusive anyway.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
November 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#24750
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!


I have to give you credit to putting yourself out there with that prediction. Holy smokes. Either Romney's popularity has reached Bieber-levels or most of America thinks Obama is the spawn of Satan.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 21:23:22
November 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#24751
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!


the fuck

hahahahaha are you trolling? If this happens it's probably an indication of rampant election fraud on the part of the Republican party.

e: btw California prop 40 was the redistricting proposition. The one that had no opposition because the Republicans went...oh wait it's better if we oppose this in 2014
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
November 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#24752
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!

I'm surprised you didn't put California on that Romney list.
Who dat ninja?
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
November 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#24753
I'm picking Obama, plus-300, with a narrow, controversial win in Florida.

Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#24754
On November 07 2012 06:18 ticklishmusic wrote:
My Prediction:
Obama: 303
Romney: 235 (taking Florida (by a very narrow margin) and NC okay)

Obama 50%
Romney 48%
Third parties 3%



I'm going with Obama winning Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Virginia and New Hampshire, and Romney winning Florida.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 21:25:08
November 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#24755
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!



The polls would have to be understating Romney support by 5-10 points for this to come true. I don't know what would lead you to this conclusion, but for your sake, I hope you have only have pride and not money riding on this one ^^
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 06 2012 21:26 GMT
#24756
On November 07 2012 02:35 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:51 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:38 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On November 06 2012 23:53 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 06 2012 23:50 Signet wrote:
On November 06 2012 18:24 paralleluniverse wrote:
As for the fiscal cliff, is Signet the only person in this thread who thinks hitting the fiscal cliff is a good idea? Supposing that he is a Republican or at least Republican leaning, then at least he's not a hypocrite on this issue.

Compare this to Romney or other Republicans who believe the fiscal cliff will wreck the economy, while at the same time believing that stimulus is bad and that deficits are bad. Such a belief is self-contradictory and completely hypocritical.


I don't think hitting the cliff is a good idea. I think deficit hawks (which I'm not) should be saddened that neither party is willing to actually go through with it.

Yes, I agree. I've asked that question probably ten times in this thread and no one has been able to answer.

No Republican here is able to explain their hypocrisy on the fiscal cliff. That's one reason why people shouldn't vote for Romney.

Wanting to cut the deficit doesn't necessarily supersede all other considerations.

For example if you want to cut your own household budget because you are racking up too much debt you wouldn't want to stop heating your house in the winter. That's not hypocritical - that's smart.

Similarly, no-one is happy with the fiscal cliff - both from the standpoint of its composition and its timetable. So the only way someone is being hypocritical is if they have taken the stance of opposing the deficit "by any means necessary" - a stance that is taken by a very minority of people.

Everyone wants to cut the deficit eventually.

It make sense that some people think that massively reducing the deficit quickly is bad, that we should do it slowly, and that not all cuts are good, which is what you're basically saying. But the logic leading that person to believe that massively cutting the deficit in the short term is bad for the economy, also implies that increasing the deficit in the short term is good for the economy.

Therefore, the hypocritical Republican position I'm talking about is believing:
1) Hitting the fiscal cliff is bad because it massively reduces the deficit through spending and tax cuts while the economy is still in a recession.
2) A large increase to the deficit by increasing spending in a recession will stimulate the economy.

Simultaneously holding both beliefs makes no sense to me.

I can't speak for all Republicans but most aren't anti-stimulus so much anti-Obama's stimulus. The ARRA was the Democrat's legislation and Republican's didn't like its composition and so they opposed it. Since then the message has devolved a bit from criticism over a specific stimulus to criticism of stimulus. But I think that's more of a dumbing down of the rhetoric than a real change in policy.

Then why have I've never seen a Republican (excluding him) say that stimulus is good, but not Obama's stimulus? Where's all the Republicans saying they want stimulus, just not Obama's stimulus?
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 06 2012 21:26 GMT
#24757
Most likely it will be 303-235 Obama or 332-206 Obama unless Ohio flips.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
November 06 2012 21:27 GMT
#24758
On November 07 2012 06:23 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 06:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
My Final Prediction:

EC:

354-184 Romney
Romney carries: OH, NV, MI, WI, CO, IA, MN, OR, NH, PA, VA, NC, FL (possibly NM)


Popular Vote:

Romney: ~ 54%
Obama: ~ 43%
Johnson: ~ 3%
Stein: > 0.1%

it's been a lot of fun guys. may the best man win. I'll see ya'll on the other side!

I'm surprised you didn't put California on that Romney list.

Oregon and Minnesota aren't enough?

It is not impossible, but the polls have to have been far more biased than what one would reasonably expect. I guess it is unskewed.com stuff.
Repeat before me
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#24759
Pretty low-level stuff, but more or less confirmed that this poll worker was altering incomplete ballots for a straight Republican ticket:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/deanna-swenson-oregon-election-worker_n_2082882.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

It was in Oregon so I doubt it would have made a huge difference, but even one tampered ballots is one too many.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 21:28:33
November 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#24760
johnny's republican party is so good i mgiht even vote for them, if not for the presumed lack of tree hugging
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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