On November 05 2012 19:18 Rassy wrote: You might call romney a proxy but then obama is a proxy as well. i find romney a much better candidate then mccain and i think he does have his own ideas, he just has to play it all realy carefull now. If he would be elected i think he would act different.
Ahh, the "vote for Romney, because he's currently lying about what he'll do in office" argument. This seems to be popping up more often. It was even in The Economist's endorsement of Obama, but they rightly dismissed it as nonsense.
How cynical to think Romney will be a good president because he's lying now, and that he'll magically be more sensible if he wins.
This really isn't fair, because I'm sure you can make a documentary about people backing Obama for asinine reasons, but damn. This made me sad.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
On November 05 2012 19:19 Dapper_Cad wrote: This is going to be like farting at a hurricane but...
We all know that there is no evidence that cutting government spending will do anything to reduce the deficit right? That examples of a nation states spending their way out of a financial hole abound in history?
Don't get me wrong, our conversation about this issue here in the U.K. is terribly stunted but the occasional rational voice gets through. Is no one in the U.S. worried by how limited the debate is?
Enjoying your double-dip recession?
Which, by the way, has lasted longer than the Great Depression in the UK.
Not really. Falling living standards aren't really fun.
We are doing exactly the same thing that you are, cutting spending, what's your point?
It looks a lot like "my country is better than yours" but it can't be that, because that would be stupid.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Exactly. He also said the 47% feel entitled to government handouts.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Exactly. He also said the 47% feel entitled to government handouts.
He said that 47% of the U.S. population believe they are entitled to food, to housing, to healthcare.
Maybe they've been reading article 25 of the universal declaration of human rights.
Actually, eating babies would only exacerbate the western world/Japan/China's aging problem. Someone needs to do a rewrite where we eat the Baby Boomers instead.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Exactly. He also said the 47% feel entitled to government handouts.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Exactly. He also said the 47% feel entitled to government handouts.
Utter fail from the guy at 2:00, fumbling in an attempt to explain away the 47% video.
But, seriously, I'd like to see how Romney supporter's here would explain away the video.
Do you not believe that he really meant what he said in that candid moment? Do you believe as this guy does, that he was just trying to impress the audience in front of him at the time? What do you make of him doubling down on the message of the 47% video after it was leaked, and only much latter saying he was wrong?
It is really simple. Mitt Romney thinks rightly that he would never get that 47% of the vote so his job is to appeal to Republicans and independents and not worry about anyone else.
No, again, that's not the only thing he said. If he had said what you wrote, that would have been fine: "some people are going to vote Democratic no matter what, so I must try to convince those who have not yet made up their mind to vote for me". But he also accused those 47% of people of living off the government and of not taking any responsibility for their lives. THAT is what's extremely wrong with his comments.
Exactly. He also said the 47% feel entitled to government handouts.
Don't they?
So you really honestly think the 47% of Americans who don't pay income taxes all feel entitled to government handouts? There are no Republican voters in the 47%? The reason 47% of Americans don't pay income tax is because they don't make enough money (although they pay other taxes), so for Mitt Romney to say that they don't take personal responsibility for their lives and feel entitled is quite insulting, given that it's far more difficult to live so poor, than to live in a mansion with a car elevator.
Has the super storm bumped up any of Obama's poll points?
Also, do you think it's fair to judge someone in such an important job after just 2 years? In England they get 4, and most of the time they still have things they have not done by the end of it.