EPTParadiso in the Netherlands. Now a concert venue, used to be a church. I personally think churches make for excellent nightclubs.
The skatepark in Arnhem is nice too.
Use of Old Church Spaces - Page 2
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
Paradiso in the Netherlands. Now a concert venue, used to be a church. I personally think churches make for excellent nightclubs. The skatepark in Arnhem is nice too. | ||
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Notcake
United States3 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6226 Posts
On April 18 2012 22:01 Firebolt145 wrote: If you create a poll here on TL on whether people are offended or not, I daresay about 95% won't give a shit. That's because of the demographics of the forums, with most of us being rather young and international, exposed to atheism etc etc. However in the public there will be a lot of people that are older, stout Christians that will find this offensive. Should we just completely ignore them? Should we tell them to go take their bibles and shove it up their ass, claiming it's just a book from a printer? No. But that's sort of what they've done here. They've taken their wooden cross and turned it into a cue holder. It's just creating unnecessary drama. And for what purpose? Was there really no other land at all where they could've built this stuff instead? No other wood that they could've used to hold their cues? No where else they could play poker/computer games? Just do the smart thing and stay away from the silly and completely avoidable drama. That's crazy though. It was a church, now it's their house. As a Christian, I find nothing offensive in them using the stuff the congregation was careless enough to leave behind when they vacated. If they took a Jesus-on-cross effigy and set it on fire then stuck what was left on the outside wall with a pentagram painted around it, sure, then they're going out of their way to be offensive and that's something worth addressing, but nobody in their right minds is going to be up in arms about that pool queue. If you're going to make judgements based on the most out-there group of easily offended Christians, you pretty much have to make it illegal to live in old churches. Just about everything could be construed as blasphemy if you're over-zealous and still consider the building a place of worship. What if someone puts a bed in the vestry, and then later has sex in it? My word. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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zbedlam
Australia549 Posts
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Nacl(Draq)
United States302 Posts
It wasn't destroyed, it looks like you can still remove the pool cues and put it back up on the wall, they didn't drop it on someones front lawn and catch it on fire. Their choice on how to use it works, specially if there are vampires you need to kill with holy cues. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On April 18 2012 22:04 fYlddnaHturtDyaWdmAi wrote: I beg your permission to pursue this line of thought to its extreme end. How would the general society, the catholics, the moralists, the immoralists, athiests, and humanity at lage feel if an old church is bought and reused as a prostitution house? Prostitution is illegal in most countries and I don't think costumers would be confortable with looking and paying for whores in a place that used to be a church (and may still remind them of one). Heavy conscience and all that. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44192 Posts
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Twelve12
Australia268 Posts
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Abort Retry Fail
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Agree with firebolt though, publishing it was distasteful. For one, they could have used other wood as cur rack. Second, publishing it was like an open aggression to Catholics who will be offended by it. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1056 Posts
I see nothing wrong with what those guys did. I'd bet they thought their new house was pretty cool and that's why they took the pictures and tossed them on the internet. I don't think they were purposely going out of their way to be dicks. | ||
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Man with a Plan
United States401 Posts
On April 18 2012 22:08 zbedlam wrote: I like their setup. Kinda jealous tbh. Honestly me too. That is a pimpy lan party they got! On April 18 2012 22:06 Notcake wrote: If you find it "morally wrong" to use the cross in this way, would you also find it morally wrong if the same situation happened with a giant wooden fork from a church of Pastafarianism used as a coat hanger? (assume the fork is equivelent to a cross) LOLOL. Someone took the trouble of registering a new account just to say this. And, is Catholicism = Pastafarianism in scope, gravity, influence, etc? Don't look at me, I'm an athiest. | ||
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Marti
552 Posts
1 : If you don't want your church being turned into anything that is not a church ( a house for instance, or a brothel for all i care ) then don't sell it in the first place 2 : When you sell a house / flat / church, you take all the furnitures you don't want to keep, you don't leave them there and then act like you're offended if the new owner dumps your old furnitures that you didn't bother taking. 3 : As for the value of the church and the things that may have been left inside of it well first off it's not a church anymore. IT USED TO BE A CHURCH, now it's someone's house. Either the church has some cultural value ( historical monument for instance, let's say it's gothic ) and then yeah you might get really pissed that someone makes it a house, but if it does have a cultural value then you don't freaking sell it in the first place right ? And lastly, the cross is just a piece of wood. There is no copyright on "T"-shaped things, and anything T-shaped isn't sacred. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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frontliner2
Netherlands844 Posts
Isn't it awesome?  ( :S ) | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
Then I remembered to throw aside the ultra-conservative Baptist flavor of Christianity I was brought up with in the "Bible Belt" of the United States and put on my "Reasonable Human Being and Christian" clothes. Then I lol'd. As a Christian, I'm glad that these people found a use for a church once the parish moved on with their worship. Instead of the church decaying and simply being another condemned, useless former-house of worship, someone has made it a home. A true place of happiness, fun, and good times. If Jesus stood for anything, he stood for having fun with your fellow human beings. He most definitely didn't stand for tip-toeing around religious conservatives who might have a problem with your living a responsible life that just happened to go against their beliefs. In short, my Jesus would probably give them a high-five and a fist bump when they get to Heaven. Then again, my Jesus is also going to say something along the lines of "Yo motherfucker, how've you been? Oh, wait, nevermind. Already know. Trolololol," when I get there. So, you know, probably coming at you on a different wavelength. EDIT: On April 18 2012 22:26 frontliner2 wrote: In the Netherlands all Churches that get closed due to less and less Christianity all become changed to Mosques. Isn't it awesome? ( :S ) I find that beautiful. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44192 Posts
On April 18 2012 22:24 Marti wrote: My first thoughts upon seeing this : 1 : If you don't want your church being turned into anything that is not a church ( a house for instance, or a brothel for all i care ) then don't sell it in the first place 2 : When you sell a house / flat / church, you take all the furnitures you don't want to keep, you don't leave them there and then act like you're offended if the new owner dumps your old furnitures that you didn't bother taking. 3 : As for the value of the church and the things that may have been left inside of it well first off it's not a church anymore. IT USED TO BE A CHURCH, now it's someone's house. Either the church has some cultural value ( historical monument for instance, let's say it's gothic ) and then yeah you might get really pissed that someone makes it a house, but if it does have a cultural value then you don't freaking sell it in the first place right ? And lastly, the cross is just a piece of wood. There is no copyright on "T"-shaped things, and anything T-shaped isn't sacred. As Mr. Cross famously says: I pity the fool who don't quit his jibba jabba and turns churches into houses! | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
2636 Posts
On April 18 2012 22:26 frontliner2 wrote: In the Netherlands all Churches that get closed due to less and less Christianity all become changed to Mosques. Isn't it awesome? ( :S ) Really? Is this true? Imagine the irony. | ||
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rfoster
United States1005 Posts
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