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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#6721
On July 11 2013 04:19 Kaitlin wrote:
15 minute break.

I'll be shocked if he testifies. Sounds like no other witnesses to be called. Would they go right into closing arguments or would they start them tomorrow ?

Why would he ever take the stand? It just gives the other side so many options.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#6722
On July 11 2013 04:19 Kaitlin wrote:
15 minute break.

I'll be shocked if he testifies. Sounds like no other witnesses to be called. Would they go right into closing arguments or would they start them tomorrow ?

defense will probably try to delay. you dont want the jury debating the issue this late in the day. they are tired and likely want to go home immediately.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#6723
On July 11 2013 04:21 HoneyNuts wrote:
I would guess they would go right into closing arguments. The judge has been moving quickly and it's only 3:30 over there on a Wednesday.

Well, the judge has to instruct the jury, which will take the better part of an hour. Also, the state has the opportunity to present rebuttal evidence once the defense rests. I don't see the jury getting the case until tomorrow evening at the earliest.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 10 2013 19:27 GMT
#6724
On July 11 2013 04:20 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 04:19 Kaitlin wrote:
15 minute break.

I'll be shocked if he testifies. Sounds like no other witnesses to be called. Would they go right into closing arguments or would they start them tomorrow ?

well, if they come back in about 10 minutes now, about 1.5 hrs for closing argument. That sounds like enough time imo but up to judge I guess.


1.5 hours is time for a start, but each side's argument, I suspect will easily exceed that amount of time.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 10 2013 19:28 GMT
#6725
Here we go with some more Zimmerman questioning by the Judge ...
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 10 2013 19:30 GMT
#6726
On July 11 2013 04:27 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 04:20 BigFan wrote:
On July 11 2013 04:19 Kaitlin wrote:
15 minute break.

I'll be shocked if he testifies. Sounds like no other witnesses to be called. Would they go right into closing arguments or would they start them tomorrow ?

well, if they come back in about 10 minutes now, about 1.5 hrs for closing argument. That sounds like enough time imo but up to judge I guess.


1.5 hours is time for a start, but each side's argument, I suspect will easily exceed that amount of time.

ya that's true, guess tommorrow then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#6727
was that so hard zimmerman, to say no you dont want to testify?

confirmed he wont testify.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 10 2013 19:36 GMT
#6728
On July 11 2013 04:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
was that so hard zimmerman, to say no you dont want to testify?

confirmed he wont testify.

I still get the feeling that he wanted to tell his side of the story.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 10 2013 19:37 GMT
#6729
On July 11 2013 04:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 04:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
was that so hard zimmerman, to say no you dont want to testify?

confirmed he wont testify.

I still get the feeling that he wanted to tell his side of the story.

they played the video tape. he got to air his side without being subject to cross-examination. he should be giggling at his good fortune.

i do imagine he wanted to talk though and his lawyers beat him up and told him how stupid it would be. people always want to talk.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#6730
That was funny.

MOM: Now might be the time for me to present my Judgment of Acquittal Motion.
Judge: And then I'll bring the jury in so we can continue the trial .....

lol.
AllHailTheDead
Profile Joined July 2011
United States418 Posts
July 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#6731
On July 11 2013 04:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 04:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
was that so hard zimmerman, to say no you dont want to testify?

confirmed he wont testify.

I still get the feeling that he wanted to tell his side of the story.




probably but I do agree with his attorney's that he shouldn't testify
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 10 2013 19:39 GMT
#6732
On July 11 2013 04:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 04:36 BigFan wrote:
On July 11 2013 04:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
was that so hard zimmerman, to say no you dont want to testify?

confirmed he wont testify.

I still get the feeling that he wanted to tell his side of the story.

they played the video tape. he got to air his side without being subject to cross-examination. he should be giggling at his good fortune.

i do imagine he wanted to talk though and his lawyers beat him up and told him how stupid it would be. people always want to talk.

I missed the earlier days of the trial so I didn't know that, thanks. ya, it would be a terrible idea lol. Defense asking for charges to be dismissed huh? I doubt it'll happen.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#6733
second motion for acquittal, denied.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 10 2013 19:41 GMT
#6734
On July 11 2013 04:41 dAPhREAk wrote:
second motion for acquittal, denied.

I doubt she'll want to make the decision herself tbh even if its clear he's not guilty.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 10 2013 19:42 GMT
#6735
MOM: Could someone please articulate one specific scenario representing the prosecution's theory of the case such that Zimmerman's claim of self-defense doesn't hold up beyond a reasonable doubt.

Judge: Motion denied. Bring in the jury.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
July 10 2013 19:44 GMT
#6736
Regardless of how circumspect the prosecutions chances may seem, I think the judge is making the right move in denying acquittal. It is better for everyone involved for this to go through the jury and be finished in a traditional sense.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 10 2013 19:46 GMT
#6737
On July 11 2013 04:42 Kaitlin wrote:
MOM: Could someone please articulate one specific scenario representing the prosecution's theory of the case such that Zimmerman's claim of self-defense doesn't hold up beyond a reasonable doubt.

Judge: Motion denied. Bring in the jury.

Hence my objection to both the prosecution and the judge. Prosecution should not "cast doubt on the defense". That is the job of the defense, to cast doubt.

The trial is a farce, continuing it is continuing a farce.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 19:47:15
July 10 2013 19:46 GMT
#6738
Not better for George Zimmerman.

I have a feeling Adam Pollack is about to get screwed.

edit: Oh, wait, I thought he was the "best friend". I got the wrong guy.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 10 2013 19:49 GMT
#6739
Ok, here's what's going on. There was a page on the website where requests for information about the training GZ recieved should be requested in a certain way. They were probably getting lots of requests and didn't want to handle them all by phone, so they added a page to their site to handle them more automatically. Not about marketing their services, but managing press inquiries instead of wasting time verbally answering questions.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
July 10 2013 19:49 GMT
#6740
What the hell IS the prosecution's theory of the case? Do they even have a singular argument?

I would have though that the characterization of Zimmerman being a wannabe cop, that thought he had the authority or ability to take matters into his own hands, would have been the strongest and most consistent argument. But it doesn't sound like that's their argument ...
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