EPTI don't think they've made that clear yet, as far as I can tell they've simply called for a 15 minute break.
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
I don't think they've made that clear yet, as far as I can tell they've simply called for a 15 minute break. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
15 minute recess. He's still under oath and at the witness stand. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:09 dAPhREAk wrote: most likely related to press inquiries, not prospective gym members. Absolutely. And it's why the prosecution is about to get their ass stomped on this point as well. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
The judge instructed him not to talk to anyone and such just before taking the 15 minute break so I'd assume he's coming back. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:02 SilverLeagueElite wrote: I must've missed it but which witness(es) characterized Zimmerman as a wannabe cop? Or is that just the state's narrative? Closest testimony I heard was that Zimmerman was studying criminal justice. The state doesn't have a narrative. It was all over the place. It's hard to see any results of the prosecution trying to characterize this as anything other than self defense. Their own witnesses have worked against them. The only reason that judge did not grant a directed verdict is the hype surrounding this case and her lack of a backbone to stand against it. If Zimmerman looked more like the mixed-race hispanic that his ancestry indicates instead of white, we would've never heard of this case. The prosecution had no case to try him for second degree murder. | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:08 Kaitlin wrote: This is what this rebuttal situation is all about. Prosecution calls this "marketing". http://www.kogym.com/zimmerman.htm edit: It's not marketing. It's "Leave us the fuck alone with all your requests." aaah, it all makes sense now. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:08 Kaitlin wrote: This is what this rebuttal situation is all about. Prosecution calls this "marketing". http://www.kogym.com/zimmerman.htm edit: It's not marketing. It's "Leave us the fuck alone with all your requests." interesting. I thought they meant to get the kind of training he did when I first read that title XD | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 11 2013 04:57 AimForTheBushes wrote: to be fair.. what evidence to they actually have to work with, other than unreliable "witnesses" (aka Trayvon's family) saying that they're sure that it was his voice yelling for help? All physical evidence and the only eyewitness points to Zimmerman being the one getting a beating before defending himself with his gun. They have the GF's testimony that Zimmerman instigated They have zimmerman's testimony that he shot Martin They have the recorded 911 call where Zimmerman was chasing after Martin. Intent => Instigation => gun death John Good's testimony did not see the instigation, just the fight as it was already happening. None of the witnesses save the GF witnessed what happened before the start of the fight. The yelling for help is contested both by families and by experts. The wounds are contested by experts. We simply have the GF telling us that Zimmerman instigated, and we have John Good telling Trayvon to stop and Trayvon not stopping. No matter who was at fault/started the fight, John Good was the help that should have ended it. Trayvon continuing to hit Zimmerman after Good shows up means that the board is reset and Trayvon is now on the offensive. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
legal term for prosecutor is grasping for straws like a mad man. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:29 BigFan wrote: backfired! lol. Did he really say Zimmerman went to 1 only or did I hear correct that it was 0.1? he misstated. it was 0.5 to 1, out of 10. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
oh ok I thought so. On July 11 2013 05:31 Kaitlin wrote: Damn it. She actually helped the prosecution by denying that. bias I tell ya! lol. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:24 Thieving Magpie wrote: They have the GF's testimony that Zimmerman instigated They have zimmerman's testimony that he shot Martin They have the recorded 911 call where Zimmerman was chasing after Martin. Intent => Instigation => gun death John Good's testimony did not see the instigation, just the fight as it was already happening. None of the witnesses save the GF witnessed what happened before the start of the fight. The yelling for help is contested both by families and by experts. The wounds are contested by experts. We simply have the GF telling us that Zimmerman instigated, and we have John Good telling Trayvon to stop and Trayvon not stopping. No matter who was at fault/started the fight, John Good was the help that should have ended it. Trayvon continuing to hit Zimmerman after Good shows up means that the board is reset and Trayvon is now on the offensive. First of all, even if her testimony is to be trusted, she never said that Zimmerman instigated, she just tried to imply it with saying she heard Trayvon say "a little get off, get off" which could still mean a number of things besides GZ instigating the fight. Also worth mentioning that she ADDED this to her original story later, which alone makes her whole testimony suspicious. Nobody is denying he shot Martin. Following from a distance to keep an eye on his whereabouts, so what? Doesn't prove he ran up face-to-face to Trayvon AND attacked Martin. His intent was to protect his neighborhood from criminals, nowhere is there any sign that he instigated the fight (and he didn't even strike Martin once) Of course the families are going to contest "who was yelling for help" and the experts couldn't identify who the voices were, nobody said "it definitely 100% was not George Zimmerman". The wounds are consistent with what happened and unless you want to say George injured himself on purpose, there is no arguing that Trayvon was the one who caused them (and his abrasian on his hand is proof of this...as well as John Good's testimony) | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 11 2013 05:33 dAPhREAk wrote: lol. i want to see the ATF officer come in and say Zimmerman beat my ass. lmao. edit: actually, that may also bring out the ridiculous lengths to which the prosecution is stretching their case. | ||
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BigFan
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dAPhREAk
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