EPTShooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 317
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SilverLeagueElite
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sc2superfan101
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Kleinmuuhg
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On July 10 2013 06:05 kmillz wrote: I think they are doing a pretty Good John personally. This post needs a lot of love. <3 <3 <3 <3 | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote: Dude this prosecutor is either really stupid or really slimy. this whole testimony, questioning etc has been draining, I can see why this guy is developing a twitch. | ||
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sc2superfan101
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On July 10 2013 06:23 crms wrote: this whole testimony, questioning etc has been draining, I can see why this guy is developing a twitch. It would help if this witness was a little more assertive. Though the prosecutor is being intentionally vague as shit to confuse him. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:26 GreenHorizons wrote: Prosecution is just demonstrating that the animation is based on old/pre-trial assertions and that any trial information that has altered the animation has been a result of GZ's Lawyers portrayal of courtroom testimony and advising. yeah we all get it and the jury isn't even present so why is this going on so long? I also hate this attorneys mannerisms and questioning. he asks ridiculously stupid questions and then puts his hands over his mouth in a 'prayer' position, really obnoxious. At least West's shitty questions have a soothing voice. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24393 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:29 crms wrote: yeah we all get it and the jury isn't even present so why is this going on so long? I also hate this attorneys mannerisms and questioning. he asks ridiculously stupid questions and then puts his hands over his mouth in a 'prayer' position, really obnoxious. At least West's shitty questions have a soothing voice. His hands are betraying his frustration with the witness not simply telling the truth that the animation is an estimation based on the defenses theory of events. NOT an accurate depiction of the most recent courtroom testimony in full as it is likely to be purported to be to the jury. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:33 GreenHorizons wrote: His hands are betraying his frustration with the witness not simply telling the truth that the animation is an estimation based on the defenses theory of events. NOT an accurate depiction of the most recent courtroom testimony in full as it is likely to be purported to be to the jury. its only different from the in court testimony if the in court testimony differs from statements made in police reports and pre-trial depositions. also, zimmerman's attorneys are heavily influencing the animation. so, yes, it does have the potential for being a very biased rendition. the question of admissibility is not whether it is biased, but whether it is reasonably accurate sufficient to be admitted for the jury's purview. the prosecutor can destroy the animation on cross, which he is trying to do now. his destruction of the evidence goes to the weight it should be given; most of the stuff so far doesnt seem to indicate it shouldnt be admitted. | ||
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sc2superfan101
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Kaitlin
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:46 sc2superfan101 wrote: finally we'll be able to see the goddamn animation. from what I've seen of other trial reenactments I can't even imagine how hilariously bad this is going to be. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24393 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:42 dAPhREAk wrote: its only different from the in court testimony if the in court testimony differs from statements made in police reports and pre-trial depositions. also, zimmerman's attorneys are heavily influencing the animation. so, yes, it does have the potential for being a very biased rendition. the question of admissibility is not whether it is biased, but whether it is reasonably accurate sufficient to be admitted for the jury's purview. the prosecutor can destroy the animation on cross, which he is trying to do now. his destruction of the evidence goes to the weight it should be given; most of the stuff so far doesnt seem to indicate it shouldnt be admitted. I think the questioning was leading to the idea that the animation portrays pieces like positioning without appropriate evidence to support them. Not sure what the threshold is for how knowingly inaccurate it can be and still get admitted | ||
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
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Kaitlin
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:51 Tewks44 wrote: I haven't been following what's going on. What's the deal with the animation they're arguing over? Defense is just trying to paint a picture of what happened, based on evidence in the trial. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:52 Kaitlin wrote: I would love to see a computer animation trying to depict the prosecution's theory of what happened, whatever that theory happens to be, I still have no idea. that's kind of a funny and scarily accurate point. what the hell is the prosecutions theory now? this whole trial to a laymen (me) has seemed backwards. It's like the defense makes theories based on evidence and the prosecution tries to pook holes in it, disproving the defenses theories without offering any reasonable theories themselves. I'm not sure how you convict someone of 2nd degree murder without doing anything 'offensive'. edit; what's also comical about this entire process is the fact that the prosecution (for this trial) is trying to discredit these types of reenactment videos and the methods used to create them, when I'd bet $1,000 they have used these exact methods for their own cases in the past. Such a silly game the justice system can be. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:52 Kaitlin wrote: I would love to see a computer animation trying to depict the prosecution's theory of what happened, whatever that theory happens to be, I still have no idea. Let's just have that black lady from that CNN show re-enact it for us again. Two gunshots and all. Seems legit. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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sc2superfan101
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On July 10 2013 07:00 GreenHorizons wrote: No it's not accurate. It's an estimate. Pretty simple Question and answer. Could of been a jab could of been a cross or hook. Don't think we even have evidence of which hand Trayvon punched with. So irrelevant omg | ||
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