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Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 316
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
First time in this case that I've been bored... | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:06 dAPhREAk wrote: interesting. a non-interested person saying it was zimmerman's voice. don't really have the issues of confirmation bias with her since she was just a neighbor and not really a friend. edit: she is also black. bonus points. I've started to believe it is actually his voice from hearing it so many times lol. I think her testimony will stand unlike the previous testimonies as to whose voice it is? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:03 farvacola wrote: You need to get past the objective definitions of things like "reasonable doubt" and realize that the prosecutions case is weak enough to warrant them hoping that the jury alters it's understanding of the case as per instructions. No, disputing John Good's testimony doesn't prove guilt, but they don't have much else to go off of. Then I would say that the darkness confused him as to who was on top and lead the jury by saying that if Mr. Good saw MMA moves and we know that Zimmerman had MMA training, it's most likely that the scuffle confused him. Doesn't really prove anything, but if you hope that the Jury forgets about reasonable doubt I would go that route. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
"YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD ZIMMERMAN SCREAMING FOR HIS LIFE?!?" edit: damn. he made me look stupid. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
"Do you believe that was Zimmerman's voice?" | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:16 sc2superfan101 wrote: Weird testimony... So much info just for: "Do you believe that was Zimmerman's voice?" well, what do you expect them to ask? It was quick, painless and puts reasonable doubt on her testimony although I agree, they could've asked a bit more questions but too late at this point imo. I doubt she has anymore information that can help them with this case. edit: oops, typo. Thought you meant the prosecution although I guess that works either way lol. Post below me is spot on imo. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:16 sc2superfan101 wrote: Weird testimony... So much info just for: "Do you believe that was Zimmerman's voice?" I think they were trying to get more, but were unable to with her inability to correctly identify the position of George's truck. She kept referring to it as Retreat View Circle, when that is clearly mistaken. They pretty much had to abandon whatever was going to come of that. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Even if , for example, it was murder, zimmermann could still be the one who cried for help. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:24 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Does anybody else think that the Help is getting too much importance? Even if , for example, it was murder, zimmermann could still be the one who cried for help. if trayvon was crying for help, it was unlikely zimmerman was acting in self defense. it is hard to argue you feared for your life from a person that was crying for help. if zimmerman was crying for help, it adds support to his claim for self defense although, as you state, it still could have been murder/manslaughter. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:30 Kleinmuuhg wrote: So I guess it would have a lot of importance if it was trayvon, which makes the decision important. Okay ,I get it. Technically, it's only important if it was clearly Trayvon's voice. It being unclear leaves room for reasonable doubt--which sucks. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD Oh, and John Good. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:43 NEOtheONE wrote: I can picture the closing argument for the defense now. JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD Oh, and John Good. for prosecution: REMEMBER that witnesses CAN'T be trusted! REMEMBER what the medical examiner said about witnesses! He DIDN'T trust him, why should you? | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:43 NEOtheONE wrote: I can picture the closing argument for the defense now. JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD Oh, and John Good. They're gonna throw in everything good Zimmerman has ever done under the sun too, including that time he gave Missy Langford back her tootsie roll pop when it fell out of her pocket in the 2nd grade. By the time O'Mara is done, if you believe him, Zimmerman will be both Luke Skywalker and the reincarnation of Martin Luther King, Jr. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:43 NEOtheONE wrote: I can picture the closing argument for the defense now. JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD JOHN GOOD Oh, and John Good. you forgot ground and pound. "JOHN GOOD, GROUND AND POUND MMA STYLE, JOHN GOOD, JOHN GOOD, MARIJUANA." the last being only if deemed admissible. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On July 10 2013 05:50 LegalLord wrote: I don't think the defense is doing a John Good enough job in this case. I think they are doing a pretty Good John personally. | ||
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Roxor9999
Netherlands771 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 06:09 Roxor9999 wrote: Is there anyway to watch the actual animation? I skimmed through the vods linked in the OP but couldn't find it. i have been looking for it as well. if anyone finds it, please let me know and i will link it. | ||
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