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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24394 Posts
If he had run him over instead of shooting him they would of done one..? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:46 woody60707 wrote: Will getting it enter in to court that Martin was high have a big impact? it supports zimmerman's statement that Martin looked like he was on drugs, which the prosecutor has harped on. the fact that the prosecutor found that is important is significant. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:49 GreenHorizons wrote: Seems strange that there is no toxicology report for GZ. Would it not make sense when a killing takes place that both the victim and the killer be screened to shed light on any suspicions that any intoxicants influenced actions of either party? If he had run him over instead of shooting him they would of done one..? toxicology is expensive and invasive. absent probable cause, they arent allowed to do any random test they want. if he appeared to be under the influence, they would have noted it in the police reports and pursued, but they didnt which means its unlikely. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24394 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:48 BigFan wrote: for defense? they could say that he was high in line with what Zimmerman thought and that could've lead him to attack Zimmerman(contributed to the attack). yes, sorry, I meant they didn't ask him recently. Also for all intents and purposes the level is not indicative of being "high" Especially if he used with any frequency. Also being "high" on weed, and for anyone who's smoked it they know fighting is the last thing on your mind. If anything you'd be more likely to not take a fight you would otherwise have taken. | ||
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:43 MrCon wrote: This is Appollo Justice-esque =) Do we know why Zim followed Martin btw ? Did Martin had a legitimate reason to be here or was he really planning something suspicious ? Did Zim followed him just because he was black ? According to police reports, Martin was most likely not planning or in the process of doing any criminal activity. As for the second question, I can't really answer that objectively so I won't do so. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:47 FatChicksUnited wrote: They asked him, but at the time of the deposition (two months ago), he had not yet seen the video. They also completely missed asking him about his military history. Yeah, it's hard to predict the relevance of that military history when it comes to identifying Zimmerman's stressed voice from his baseline talking voice, but the defense managed. Definitely well played on that one. Can't blame the prosecution for not seeing that one coming ... | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
Don't know if this has already been posted, but two things: 1. Yupp, that was a questionable instagram post, insensitive 2. How crazy are some people to react to that by threatening rape? Holy shit sometimes we humans are so frustrating... | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote: Also for all intents and purposes the level is not indicative of being "high" Especially if he used with any frequency. Also being "high" on weed, and for anyone who's smoked it they know fighting is the last thing on your mind. If anything you'd be more likely to not take a fight you would otherwise have taken. At least two of my friends have completely sworn off weed because it makes them paranoid. One slightly, one very much so. So weed having a mellowing effect isn't a universal. | ||
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AllHailTheDead
United States418 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote: Also for all intents and purposes the level is not indicative of being "high" Especially if he used with any frequency. Also being "high" on weed, and for anyone who's smoked it they know fighting is the last thing on your mind. If anything you'd be more likely to not take a fight you would otherwise have taken. but if he was actually not "high" at the moment and was a frequent user then anyone who is familiar with the stuff would know that it can cause "rage" if they are coming down | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote: Also for all intents and purposes the level is not indicative of being "high" Especially if he used with any frequency. Also being "high" on weed, and for anyone who's smoked it they know fighting is the last thing on your mind. If anything you'd be more likely to not take a fight you would otherwise have taken. Marijuana can also make you more suspicious or paranoid of others. | ||
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archetypemad
United States2 Posts
On July 09 2013 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote: Also for all intents and purposes the level is not indicative of being "high" Especially if he used with any frequency. Also being "high" on weed, and for anyone who's smoked it they know fighting is the last thing on your mind. If anything you'd be more likely to not take a fight you would otherwise have taken. I guess you've never heard of the Diaz brother's in the UFC. Nick and Nate diaz frequently use Marijuana and enjoy smoking before fighting. Marijuana may not cause effective hostile actions, but it does not debilitate them either. If anything, it would have had no effect one way or the other in terms of making him aggressive, so I don't see how it's relevant evidence. Especially 5 nanograms per ML. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
edit: and it's in. | ||
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archetypemad
United States2 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11111 Posts
So the ME can choose to give his opinion. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
i am surprised she rejected the prosecutor's request for a "proffer," although really they should have asked for a Frye/Daubert hearing. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
edit: oh well, the defense is giving a good argument. idk about this one. | ||
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