EPTScientists making attempt to Clone a Woolly Mammoth - Page 4
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Torte de Lini
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Nagisama
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Miyoshino
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On March 16 2012 00:05 ShoCkeyy wrote: The thing with Factory Farming, it's basically like cloning. They altered the genes of those animals only to live a certain number of weeks so they can provide the quota. So either way, they're only growing them for them to die. I agree with how inhumane they kill them sometimes, but what can I do? They have already been doing this for plenty of years. Now, with cloning this Mammoth? If they can do this, that means, any kind of extinct animal can be brought back and we can study their methods and learn more from our past. It will be huge discovery and findings. I also agree with the clone farming for organs. Make a replicate of yourself, keep them cryogenically frozen, till you have a problem with one of your organs and bam, no wait list, but I'm pretty sure this is for people that have some money. Cloning doesn't alter genes. Also, the altering of domestic animals is a complete disgrace and abomination. Real cows are long extinct. The cow livestock we have right now are supranatural in a scary and cruel way. Same is true for many race pure dog breeds. Many are so deformed, they suffer physically. Things like eyes that can't fit in the eye sockets of the skull. Pretty crazy. The main problem with factory farming is the scale and the lack of good benefits. The suffering inflincted and the benefit gained from it doesn't add up. I don't want to rag on everyone that isn't a vegetarian, but if you are so concerned about a single mammuth for actual science, you either misunderstand some crucial things, or you are a hypocrite. Cloning for organs is basically the only real benefit of cloning. The other would be cloning people with very special genes. I mean, imagine people cloning Messi and Ronaldo 1000 times and putting them in some intense football school that borders on slavery. Imagine how much better the end product would be compared to the Messi and Ronaldo we now have. It's going to take a long time before we understand what certain genes actually do and engineer them. When human cloning becomes reliable and considering the value of top athletes in certain sports, it will surely be profitable and some crazy people will at some point try to do exactly that. And stealing some Messi dna isn't going to be extremely hard either. | ||
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Bazzyrick
United Kingdom361 Posts
Yes, yes it should. So I did. Your welcome. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On March 16 2012 00:20 Miyoshino wrote: Cloning doesn't alter genes. Also, the altering of domestic animals is a complete disgrace and abomination. Real cows are long extinct. The cow livestock we have right now are supranatural in a scary and cruel way. Same is true for many race pure dog breeds. Many are so deformed, they suffer physically. Things like eyes that can't fit in the eye sockets of the skull. Pretty crazy. The main problem with factory farming is the scale and the lack of good benefits. The suffering inflincted and the benefit gained from it doesn't add up. I don't want to rag on everyone that isn't a vegetarian, but if you are so concerned about a single mammuth for actual science, you either misunderstand some crucial things, or you are a hypocrite. Cloning for organs is basically the only real benefit of cloning. The other would be cloning people with very special genes. I mean, imagine people cloning Messi and Ronaldo 1000 times and putting them in some intense football school that borders on slavery. Imagine how much better the end product would be compared to the Messi and Ronaldo we now have. It's going to take a long time before we understand what certain genes actually do and engineer them. When human cloning becomes reliable and considering the value of top athletes in certain sports, it will surely be profitable and some crazy people will at some point try to do exactly that. And stealing some Messi dna isn't going to be extremely hard either. I know cloning doesn't alter the genes, but if you think about it, the way we have been altering the genes of those animals for years now, it's basically like cloning. We've been creating newer versions of the chicken that are fatter and what not and replicating them over and over and so on with other farm animals. Humans, have also been long extinct, since we were first able to think for ourselves, we've injected and polluted our body with tons of things. We can't even survive anymore with out having shots right after we're born. | ||
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
... ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On March 16 2012 00:18 Wegandi wrote: I have no problem with cloning a Mammoth, but predatory creatures, and human beings are absolutely unethical, and seriously dangerous. We never stop and ask ourselves if we should do, only if we can. Technology works best with wisdom. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. How is cloning a predatory creature less ethical than cloning a mammoth? | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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Dbars
United States273 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:11 Dbars wrote: quiet all of you!!!! they're approaching the tyrannosaur paddock! DENNIS NEDRY!!!!!!! | ||
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DreamChaser
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S2Glow
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Bagration
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:15 DreamChaser wrote: Imagine their fur. My god...the warmth. lol xD | ||
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Zaranth
United States345 Posts
On March 15 2012 23:24 Grumbels wrote: If they succeed with the mammoth they should do sabretooth tigers next. ^_^ This!!! Interesting to see if this will work. I am very curious as to how the proteins that already exist in the egg will affect the mammoth. This could tell us an awful lot about epigenetics. If they can get the DNA together in the correct way, I still think they face enormous challenges getting plain DNA into a nucleus ... think of the packaging etc. which all has to go exactly right for proper gene expression ... hmmmm. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:19 Zaranth wrote: This!!! Interesting to see if this will work. I am very curious as to how the proteins that already exist in the egg will affect the mammoth. This could tell us an awful lot about epigenetics. If they can get the DNA together in the correct way, I still think they face enormous challenges getting plain DNA into a nucleus ... think of the packaging etc. which all has to go exactly right for proper gene expression ... hmmmm. If this leads to the ability to clone human beings and predatory creatures, it'll be a terrible disaster. As a species we still haven't come to terms with our ability to destroy ourselves in an instant (the sheer numbers of nuclear weapons we have). Rather not open pandoras box with the astonishingly low amount of wisdom that most human beings have. Maybe we are destined on this course -- as George Mallory said 'Because it is there'. Just because we have or will have the ability, doesn't mean we should automatically act on it. /shrug Let's at least analyze and contemplate the possible and likely consequences of our actions before we act. | ||
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virpi
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:24 Wegandi wrote: If this leads to the ability to clone human beings and predatory creatures, it'll be a terrible disaster. As a species we still haven't come to terms with our ability to destroy ourselves in an instant (the sheer numbers of nuclear weapons we have). Rather not open pandoras box with the astonishingly low amount of wisdom that most human beings have. Maybe we are destined on this course -- as George Mallory said 'Because it is there'. Just because we have or will have the ability, doesn't mean we should automatically act on it. /shrug Let's at least analyze and contemplate the possible and likely consequences of our actions before we act. Calm down. "This" will lead to the ability to cure diabetes, Parkinson's, a vast swath of other neurological diseases, grow organs, and much more other cool stuff, well before the ability to clone healthy humans with 100% identical genomes. | ||
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:28 virpi wrote: I will be impressed when they clone a dinosaur. I read somewhere that they found a fly which came in contact with Dinosaur DNA. Keep the dream alive. | ||
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