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On March 15 2012 22:01 Ryuhou)aS( wrote: Didn't the swedes clone a sheep like 20 years ago? How is this a New thing now? meaning, why hasn't cloning been more common in science? Just the medical implications alone are staggering. Imagine a world where you can get an organ flash cloned and instead of waiting on a donor list for 10 years for a replacement, you can have your own cloned.
It's a big deal to create a clone of an animal that doesn't exist anymore.
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On March 15 2012 22:16 Nyarly wrote: I figured they would have done that already..
What's the next step after mammoth ? Humans. And i believe there are already labs researching for it or doing it. inb4 savior baby. I believe the tricky part is separating actual mammoth DNA from contamination caused by microorganisms. You can't just take entire DNA strands from a cell, you first have to break everything down, including the DNA and then try to assemble it back together which is not easy even for organisms that aren't extinct. I think they're using elephant's genome to figure out which genes belong to the mammoth and which don't.
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On March 15 2012 22:19 AeroGear wrote: Some of you dont realize/understand the complexity of cloning... Yes the techniques have been known/employed for a long time, but the success rate is extremely small for complex organism.
Maybe around 1-2% for cloning by SCNT in mouse, sheep, horse, etc. Success rates are always low in processes that involve genetic modification. For example, even just generating a transgenic line in mouse, avian, or fish model... Success rate for germ line transfer is like 1-5%
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On March 15 2012 22:23 Arthemesia wrote: I want a Jurassic Park in my lifetime. It'll be like a zoo with different sections. An ice age section, jurassic period, triassic etc. That would be so awesome. This!
Science is so awesome. I hate it when it gets stopped or hindered by moral or ethical debates.
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did we learn nothing from Jurassic park?
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On March 15 2012 22:01 BlackJack wrote: Does this remind anyone of that very popular movie called Ice Age? I believe the main character in that movie is a wooly mammoth voiced by actor/comedian Ray Romano.
Reminds me more of an even more popular movie called Jurassic Park !
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On March 15 2012 22:01 Sablar wrote: Mammoth steak. Niiice.
I'd love to have one!
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Sounds like Jurassic Park got it right then? Very impressive if this attempt is successful...
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This is old news. The scientists are actually behind the schedule they announced couple of years back if I recall correctly. Nevertheless I'm rooting for the mammoth
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Well, maybe we'll have a less cinematic version of Jurassic Park? XD
This is actually fucking incredible, if they manage to do it. I don't really see what would be so morally wrong about it that we couldn't do it. This is too big of a deal :D
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While cloning is not new, it is new to clone an ancient and extinct animal. It would be a Woolly Mammoth despite being born from an Indian Elephant, the Elephant is merely carrying the egg, modified to be a Woolly Mammoth from the frozen DNA.
I also think Dinosaurs could be cloned and safely contained, the question is would they have enough DNA to do it and how would they create it. Dinosaurs are born differently from Mammals and if my brain serveth me correctly, they are much older than Woolly Mammoths meaning they are not as similar to any modern day animal, as Woolly Mammoths are to Elephants. Who knows.
Also Humans will be cloned one day. Lets hope they don't execute order 66 (herp).
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On March 15 2012 22:36 Teoman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 22:16 Nyarly wrote: I figured they would have done that already..
What's the next step after mammoth ? Humans. And i believe there are already labs researching for it or doing it. inb4 savior baby. No. the next logical step is dinosaurs! John Hammonds dream must come into fulfillment!!!
DAMN you beat me to it.
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Finally, I keep hearing about this but they are finally doing it.
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I want to see Dinosaurs too.
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On March 15 2012 23:08 Tristran wrote:
I also think Dinosaurs could be cloned and safely contained, the question is would they have enough DNA to do it and how would they create it.
Yes. In theory you could clone dinosaurs if you had sufficient genomic DNA intact, or if you could at least infer the missing elements from phylogenetic studies on gene evolution, etc.
Would they have enough DNA? Can't answer that question without having a dino sample... How would the create it? Same way cloning is achieved in any organism - by SCNT based techniques. The first organisms to be cloned weren't mammals. That dinos aren't mammals has no bearing on whether or not they can be cloned. The way something is born has nothing to do with the process.
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On March 15 2012 23:15 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 23:08 Tristran wrote:
I also think Dinosaurs could be cloned and safely contained, the question is would they have enough DNA to do it and how would they create it. Yes. In theory you could clone dinosaurs if you had sufficient genomic DNA intact, or if you could at least infer the missing elements from phylogenetic studies on gene evolution, etc. Would they have enough DNA? Can't answer that question without having a dino sample... How would the create it? Same way cloning is achieved in any organism - by SCNT based techniques. The first organisms to be cloned weren't mammals. That dinos aren't mammals has no bearing on whether or not they can be cloned. The way something is born has nothing to do with the process. Or, when understanding of genes, proteins and how they create organisms is developed enough, we could attempt to engineer organisms phenotypically identical to dinosaur species. Assuming that actual dinosaur DNA remains as scarce as I have been lead to believe.
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If they succeed with the mammoth they should do sabretooth tigers next. ^_^
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