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LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:05:10
February 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#361
On February 10 2012 07:02 Saltydizzle wrote:
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On February 10 2012 06:59 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:54 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:52 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:48 Saltydizzle wrote:
Gay couples definately should not be able to adopt children, I know I would resent my parents if they were gay. It's genetics, sorry. The reason you are gay is because of a genetic disorder.

And this should prevent them from adopting because? You act like they are inhumane and unfit to raise kids because of this so called 'genetic disorder'. Just because you don't approve doesn't make it ok.


Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.

Do have any sort of evidence to back this up at all? I'm assuming you're just pulling this out of your ass. I know some children who were raised by a lesbian couple and there's absolutely no way to tell by talking to them. They are completely normal. They are loving, caring and tolerant. You could probably learn a few things from them.


My neighbors had children, then the man had a sex change, and they are now lesbian. You can see the effects it has on the kids.

A sex change is completely different.
Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:07:57
February 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#362
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
February 09 2012 22:06 GMT
#363
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.

Well that's your opinion, and luckily you can keep it yourself and not impede on anyone's right to a happy life. It's fine to have your opinion, just don't take away equal rights from people you don't agree with. Keep your intolerance to yourself and let people be people.
Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
February 09 2012 22:10 GMT
#364
On February 10 2012 07:06 LambtrOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.

Well that's your opinion, and luckily you can keep it yourself and not impede on anyone's right to a happy life. It's fine to have your opinion, just don't take away equal rights from people you don't agree with. Keep your intolerance to yourself and let people be people.


Well seeing as I live in WA, and will be voting on it, it does effect me. I understand your point, but I am given the option to vote, and it's my responsibity to vote(on what i think is right).
Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:10:44
February 09 2012 22:10 GMT
#365
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.


Um, sure they can reproduce. It's quite common for lesbians to get sperm donations, or for gay men to look for a surrogate mother to carry a biological child for them. Sure, they can't both be the parent of the child, but millions of straight people are living with a similar arrangement, where the children in the household are only the biological descendants of one of the spouses.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#366
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
February 09 2012 22:12 GMT
#367
On February 10 2012 07:10 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:06 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.

Well that's your opinion, and luckily you can keep it yourself and not impede on anyone's right to a happy life. It's fine to have your opinion, just don't take away equal rights from people you don't agree with. Keep your intolerance to yourself and let people be people.


Well seeing as I live in WA, and will be voting on it, it does effect me. I understand your point, but I am given the option to vote, and it's my responsibity to vote(on what i think is right).

See it actually doesn't affect you. There are already gay couples that you can see in public. How does them marrying affect you at all? It doesn't. You are saying that since YOU don't agree with it, that OTHER PEOPLE that have no connection to you whatsoever can't enjoy the benefits of marriage. It's bigotry at its finest.
Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
February 09 2012 22:13 GMT
#368
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 09 2012 22:15 GMT
#369
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
February 09 2012 22:17 GMT
#370
Can someone at least try to give a somewhat rational argument as how gay marriage would hurt society?

I think about it over and over and I just can't see it.
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Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
February 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#371
On February 10 2012 07:15 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.


Your right, they didn't "choose", they were "born" with the disadvantage. You can see the effects of divorced and single parents on children. When a man and a woman marry, and raise a children, it gives the kid the best chance. compared to someone having a kid, say their gay and get a divorce, and ruin the family envoirnment that is so essential.
Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:21:51
February 09 2012 22:19 GMT
#372
On February 10 2012 07:17 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Can someone at least try to give a somewhat rational argument as how gay marriage would hurt society?

I think about it over and over and I just can't see it.


From Antyee
You must forget the fact that people cho(o)se only one partner, because it's safest method for procreation. The human infants are quite vulnerable compared to any other species' , and people figured out (that's why having a big brain helps) that having only 1 partner is good for the female (she can easily bring up her child since she has someone who can support them) and also for the male (100% chance for reproducing). So you can't really say it's against procreation. [before anyone said "but you don't need to live your whole live with someone 'cause your child grows up pretty fast and you could move on to a new partner", but why would you do it? you have someone, who'd most likely have more children; and people those days when marriage was invented didn't live for 60+ years]

This is why society pushed not having sex till marriage, so that you would find someone that you will have a family with and raise correctly. look at the effects of divorce.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:23:17
February 09 2012 22:20 GMT
#373
On February 10 2012 07:02 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:59 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:54 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:52 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:48 Saltydizzle wrote:
Gay couples definately should not be able to adopt children, I know I would resent my parents if they were gay. It's genetics, sorry. The reason you are gay is because of a genetic disorder.

And this should prevent them from adopting because? You act like they are inhumane and unfit to raise kids because of this so called 'genetic disorder'. Just because you don't approve doesn't make it ok.


Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.

Do have any sort of evidence to back this up at all? I'm assuming you're just pulling this out of your ass. I know some children who were raised by a lesbian couple and there's absolutely no way to tell by talking to them. They are completely normal. They are loving, caring and tolerant. You could probably learn a few things from them.


My neighbors had children, then the man had a sex change, and they are now lesbian. You can see the effects it has on the kids.

This is not the same as a same-sex couple adopting kids. Generally speaking, same-sex couples adopt children that are very young (a year old or younger). In your example, the couple already had kids when the man decided to have a sex change, so the kids then had to change their entire view of that person they've known as dad.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
February 09 2012 22:20 GMT
#374
So many american states so many law changes, and a thread for every one of them..
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 09 2012 22:20 GMT
#375
On February 10 2012 07:18 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:15 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.


Your right, they didn't "choose", they were "born" with the disadvantage. You can see the effects of divorced and single parents on children. When a man and a woman marry, and raise a children, it gives the kid the best chance. compared to someone having a kid, say their gay and get a divorce, and ruin the family envoirnment that is so essential.



Right, because heterosexual people only ever divorce because one of them is gay, and not because of money, work, mutual dislike, etc or anything like that.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
February 09 2012 22:21 GMT
#376
I actually can buy that someone somewhere out there who is mostly straight but has some bisexual leanings could choose to identify as gay because of past severe trauma with someone of the opposite sex, to fit into a group, to adopt an alternative lifestyle, or any number of the reasons. Maybe. In very liberal cities in the US or in parts of Europe, maybe a small minority would.

But I still always find it silly when people try to say gay people choose to be gay. Homosexuality exists in considerably less tolerant countries like Uganda, Iran or South Korea, and I'd bet you my left tit not a single Iranian, Ugandan or Korean man ever thought, "Hey, I should be gay so I can get hated by my society and shunned by my family, and severely hurt my chances in life! That's a brilliant idea! I'ma be attracted to men from tomorrow on! Why haven't I thought of this earlier?"

NietzscheanKant
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland92 Posts
February 09 2012 22:24 GMT
#377
The progress of human rights marches on; great job, Washington lawmakers!
On February 10 2012 07:18 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:15 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.


Your right, they didn't "choose", they were "born" with the disadvantage. You can see the effects of divorced and single parents on children. When a man and a woman marry, and raise a children, it gives the kid the best chance. compared to someone having a kid, say their gay and get a divorce, and ruin the family envoirnment that is so essential.

You're not making a fair comparison.

A regular gay couple is a couple of two homosexual persons, not a faux marriage between persons of opposite sexes destined to divorce. So, if you want to compare the average would-be child reading heterosexual and homosexual marriages/relationships, you have to compare gay-gay and straight-straight relationships.

I don't recall the source, but I recall a study finding that gay couples' children were raised better, because it is harder for gay couples to get children (adoption or some other method is required), whereas straight couples can get children accidentally, making them less motivated to rear them (compared to the gay couples who need to go through a lot of hurdles to get children).
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 09 2012 22:25 GMT
#378
On February 10 2012 07:18 Saltydizzle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:15 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.


Your right, they didn't "choose", they were "born" with the disadvantage. You can see the effects of divorced and single parents on children. When a man and a woman marry, and raise a children, it gives the kid the best chance. compared to someone having a kid, say their gay and get a divorce, and ruin the family envoirnment that is so essential.


...you guys should really vote on banning divorce then....
Yargh
Saltydizzle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 22:27:58
February 09 2012 22:26 GMT
#379
On February 10 2012 07:20 1Eris1 wrote:
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On February 10 2012 07:18 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:15 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:13 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:04 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:02 LambtrOn wrote:
On February 10 2012 07:00 Saltydizzle wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:57 Thorakh wrote:
Like Antyee wrote, its genetics that you have a parter that is stable will raise your childrena responsibe same way. Being raised thinking being gay normal, is just wrong, sorry.
So if your mother or father had a genetic disability that would limit his or her ability to raise you, you would resent her 'because it's wrong'? My god.

Well aids and cancer are something you develop. Married gay people cannot reproduce, therefore are at a disadvantage to regular married people.

So are infertile people. What's your point?

They are unfortunately at a disadvantage, and cannot pass on their genes. Gay people choose to be at a disadvantage.
I don't think it's right, it's just my opinion. Personally I feel sick thinking about gay couples, and I wouldn't want anyone else to be in an uncomfortable position.



Haha choose to be at a disadvantage...WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE? That is honestly the dumbest arguement used by people like you

Also. My opinion is that people like you shouldn't be able to speak because I find your thoughts make me disgusted. Should you not have a voice?


When your state can vote on that decision to limit my free speech, feel free to. Right now I am given the option to vote, and will do accordingly


You didn't answer my main question though.

Why would someone chose to be at a disadvantage? Would you turn down a 10% raise at work in favor of a 5% one? No you wouldn't, because it's idiotic.


Your right, they didn't "choose", they were "born" with the disadvantage. You can see the effects of divorced and single parents on children. When a man and a woman marry, and raise a children, it gives the kid the best chance. compared to someone having a kid, say their gay and get a divorce, and ruin the family envoirnment that is so essential.



Right, because heterosexual people only ever divorce because one of them is gay, and not because of money, work, mutual dislike, etc or anything like that.


You are supporting the society you hate. Marriage is between a man and a woman. The reason they say don't have sex until marriage is so you find someone that will be there. That makes the family have a huge chance for success, increasing the chance that the child will grow up in a stable family. Sex is for PROCREATION, not for the sake of pleasure. So if you want to be with a "partner" then so be it because thats all it will ever be, you cannot start a family (other than an artificial one)
NietzscheanKant
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland92 Posts
February 09 2012 22:29 GMT
#380
On February 10 2012 07:21 Sawajiri wrote:
I actually can buy that someone somewhere out there who is mostly straight but has some bisexual leanings could choose to identify as gay because of past severe trauma with someone of the opposite sex, to fit into a group, to adopt an alternative lifestyle, or any number of the reasons. Maybe. In very liberal cities in the US or in parts of Europe, maybe a small minority would.

But I still always find it silly when people try to say gay people choose to be gay. Homosexuality exists in considerably less tolerant countries like Uganda, Iran or South Korea, and I'd bet you my left tit not a single Iranian, Ugandan or Korean man ever thought, "Hey, I should be gay so I can get hated by my society and shunned by my family, and severely hurt my chances in life! That's a brilliant idea! I'ma be attracted to men from tomorrow on! Why haven't I thought of this earlier?"


Indeed. Also, homosexuality has been observed in over 700 animal species IIRC, and there are records of homosexual relationships throughout the ages, even though homosexuality has often been repressed, from ancient Greece, to China of old, to samurai Japan, to the cultures of Native Americans, etc., etc.

Also the conception of homosexuality as a "lifestyle" annoys me to no end.

I don't lead a "heterosexual lifestyle" - I've always been straight, as long as I remember. I never chose to be heterosexual, I've never been "tempted" to engage in a homosexual relationship or whatever, etc.
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates
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