Haditha Massacre - Page 5

[B] Iraqi lives apparently mean nothing to the US.

On January 24 2012 13:23 mowglie wrote:


No offense. But you are immature to make this ignorant assumption/accusation. Justice is elusive in many countries not just the U.S. Roman Polanski drugged and raped a child. France was up in arms to defend him and was quick to blame American politics behind the movement to get him accountable. France REFUSES to extradite him back to the U.S to face his crime.

France protects child rapist.
Children lives and innocent mean nothing to the French people.

Problem, logic?

On January 24 2012 13:12 Gamegene wrote:


i seriously wonder if those murdered would have lead a had better life in iraq if they had not been killed, compared to the sergeant's life as a grocer in the united states.

cruel world.

On January 24 2012 15:31 SerpentFlame wrote:

How many Americans even think about the hundreds of thousands (millions, by some studies) of dead Iraqis when they talk about the war?

Both sides have to be accountable for the same things. That's the only way to put a shred of honor back into war.

On January 24 2012 16:15 Ympulse wrote:

Bleed your heart out some more. Vengeance for a third party is masked sadism. The man is going to pay the rest of his life for ending someone else's unjustly. Let the man be, and instead of attacking him, analyze and figure out how to make it not happen in the future.

He faces a maximum of three months confinement, two-thirds forfeiture of pay and a demotion to the rank of private.

Before the plea, he faced several counts of manslaughter.

On January 24 2012 09:04 zalz wrote:


I think the Iraqi's that now enjoy small things like freedom of speech and freedom of press wouldn't exactly call it "pointless shit."

I also like that they have to stop the war. Not sure if you have been keeping up on recent events but you might have missed that fact that the last US troops already left Iraq.

Also, would be kinda strange for the UN to place sanctions on the USA for enaging in a UN sanctioned war.


Simple facts are that the Iraqi's now have insanely more freedom then they did under Saddam and they are now reaping their fair share of the oil profits.

Oil is now actually going into the pockets of the Iraqi people rather then Saddam, his family and his friends.


Saddam was one of the worst dictators in world when he was still alive. He got overthrown, the only sad thing about that was that it didn't happen during the first gulf war.

He ran a totalitarian state like no other. Torture, murder and even genocide. The reason we got for going into Iraq might not have been to get rid of this guy but it sure as hell makes up for all of it.


Not even 10 year ago an Iraqi citizen and his whole family would have been dragged off to a torture or rape prison if he/she even dared to speak out against the Saddam family. Meanwhile the Saddam family engaged in war after war and plundered the oil profits that belonged to the people.

Iraq today is immensely better off then it was under Saddam. Not just in terms of freedom (altough the shift is monumental) but also in future prospects. The economy is on the rise, their democratic system has by all standards been a succes.

Iraqi's are free from one of the worst dictators the world had. Now they can vote for whatever they like and say whatever they like. Iraq was a great succes and 20 years down the road people will have to eat their words as it's economy keeps growing, the people have a future, and they will be free to speak their mind and control their own country.

America might not have gotten much out of it but the Iraqi people got a future.

On January 24 2012 19:32 NSGrendel wrote:
Over a hundred thousand Iraq civilians were killed during the occupation.

What's one more village? It seems absurd to get cold feet now, at the end of a decade of patriotic slaughter of ragheads.

Vast numbers of civilian deaths are guaranteed in any campaign that takes place in urban areas. This was already considered acceptable by the US government before a boot hit the ground. It's a bit late for crocodile tears now.

On January 24 2012 19:39 Bessey wrote:The war on Iraq is anything but a sucess. It irks me to see people claim so many things about the Iraqi people that I doubt they have knowledge about. I'd like to know where you got the notion that the people of Iraq enjoy more freedoms now than the before the war.

It is true that many Iraqi people supported the toppling of the Saddam regime, but not at the cost it came with. Saddam was truly a tyrant, but in his days Iraq was much more "stable" (outside of the wars of course). For example, crime was low and the power was reliable. Some people seemed to be more content in the Saddam regime than during the American occupation (direct translation from what Iraqis call it). Many people have fled the country after 2003, and I barely have any family left in Iraqi anymore. While my Grandmother/Grandmother and plenty of cousins/aunts/uncles seemed to endure the Saddam regime, they just couldn't stand the unreliability of post-war Iraq.

You are right about one thing though, and that is that the future dosn't look to bleak for Iraq. The economy is rising in certain areas, such as Basra (where most of the oil is mined) and Arbeel (the northern Kurdish city which is one of the safest in Iraq. Fun Fact: A Burgerfuel was just opened there a few months ago, Kiwis will know what im talking about =).), but the rest of the country is still in turmoil. There are still power outages that occur daily, and bombings are far to frequent. Many of the Iraqi people who fled the country see no point in going back. Was it worth all the lives lost? All the people displaced?

I know I don't post on TL much, as a mainly lurk around and don't really think that I can contribute to any of the amazing discussions you guys have. But this is one of the few issues I can shed some light on, so I hope people just don't look at my low post count and ignore the points I make in fear of "trolling".